2025 Sovereign

[Paul]

14 minutes ago, westminstrel said:

I have been mostly away, yes, as my dad has been unwell so I’ve had to travel overseas; and I also lost my job at the same time. Talk about a double whammy! 😞

Sorry to hear of you bad luck.

sending you over good luck happy vibes from sunny England 

[westminstrel]

7 minutes ago, Paul said:

Sorry to hear of you bad luck.

sending you over good luck happy vibes from sunny England 

Many thanks Paul! Much appreciated. 🙂

[James32]

25 minutes ago, westminstrel said:

 

I have been mostly away, yes, as my dad has been unwell so I’ve had to travel overseas; and I also lost my job at the same time. Talk about a double whammy! 😞

Anyway, I have seen people on FB hint that the design is not the G&D and that some revelation will happen tomorrow.

It is exciting of course but given my current situation and the price of gold, I’ll just have to sit the thing out.

I just checked for any Gazette Proclamations but there’s none. 

Sorry to hear that. Hopefully everything turns around sharpish.

[westminstrel]

6 minutes ago, James32 said:

Sorry to hear that. Hopefully everything turns around sharpish.

Thank you so very much!

[Zhorro]

44 minutes ago, westminstrel said:

 

I have been mostly away, yes, as my dad has been unwell so I’ve had to travel overseas; and I also lost my job at the same time. Talk about a double whammy! 😞

Anyway, I have seen people on FB hint that the design is not the G&D and that some revelation will happen tomorrow.

It is exciting of course but given my current situation and the price of gold, I’ll just have to sit the thing out.

I just checked for any Gazette Proclamations but there’s none. 

Sorry to hear your news.

I think a lot of us will be sitting this one out.

[westminstrel]

8 minutes ago, Zhorro said:

Sorry to hear your news.

I think a lot of us will be sitting this one out.

Thank you too - it lightens me to hear such words from you all. 🥹

[Sc391]

I have a subscription to sovs so I know I’m in.  If a shield back is what’s in store I’m sure it will look great and new monarch, updated treatment, etc I doubt the RM will have any trouble selling them.

We all like to draw that line in the sand, but in the end we are all hooked on the hobby and fold like a beach chair …….

P.S.  Sending positive vibes to Australia

[paulmerton]

If it is a special design and becomes the strike your own option at the RME soon then I may find it hard to resist. But otherwise I will.

And if it is a special design, I wonder if the bullion offering will be the same.

@westminstrel best wishes from over here. It's not been the same without your usual overwatch of what's about to come out.

[AaaGee]

10 hours ago, SilverRich said:

In a way, I kind of hope it's not another reiteration of a shieldback. I absolutely love the original ones but I can't get on with the 2002, it just doesn't look right to me. Perhaps it's the change in colour that doesn't help it.

I agree with your opinion on the 2002. Bit of a Marmite design.

[Stuntman]

I hope they do a really good, serious-looking interpretation of the shieldback and offer it in bullion as well as proof.

If so, I would definitely want to buy bullion versions of the full, the double and ideally the quintuple sovereign if offered.  I passed on the 2024 sovereign range and I think I'll probably only collect new special obverse or reverse designs in future.

Sending best wishes to @westminstrel too.  Best of luck on all fronts, keep chatting to us folks on here about stuff if it helps...

[LawrenceChard]

3 hours ago, GrahamDiamond said:

£745  ???

Source?

😎

[LawrenceChard]

4 hours ago, Clockpuncher said:

No doubt the price will be furiously high given current spot.

No way the royal mint will miss the opportunity for yet another 'special reverse'..!

Mintages do look nice and low though so should be appealing

How do you know the mintages?

😎

[westminstrel]

Thank you too @Sc391, @paulmerton and @Stuntman. ☺️

It definitely helps to get my head out of my situation and be back among you all discussing upcoming designs.

You guys are going to get me excited about the 2025 Sovereign to the point I’ll have FOMO and make a rash decision. 😅 But it’s an investment right?

[refero]

8 hours ago, Stuntman said:

I passed on the 2024 sovereign range and I think I'll probably only collect new special obverse or reverse designs in future.

Same here.

Btw i opened the same thread few days ago, they should be merged, it s a pity to split comments and contributions

 

[Olivard]

On 02/10/2024 at 09:07, Zhorro said:

Are you thinking this is the design they may be using?

 

If so, I'm afraid I am not that excited about it.  If the bullion coin has this design, I will buy one, but "Special designs" are not that special any more.

 

I can't see them using the exact design as this is no longer the royal coat of arms.

 

14 hours ago, westminstrel said:

 

I just checked for any Gazette Proclamations but there’s none. 

If they were changing the design I presume they would have to issue a proclamation first. 

[Olivard]

3 hours ago, refero said:

Same here.

Btw i opened the same thread few days ago, they should be merged, it s a pity to split comments and contributions

 

It's in a different forum - general precious metals.

Edited 10 hours ago by Olivard

[westminstrel]

32 minutes ago, Olivard said:

If they were changing the design I presume they would have to issue a proclamation first. 

Correct.

There are already two Proclamations - one for a St. George and the Dragon reverse, and another for a Royal Coat of Arms (i.e., shield design) reverse.

These Proclamations cover all possible G&D and Shield design variations for KC III’s Sovereigns, unless they do a wholly radical design change.

It is also worth noting that there was no special Proclamation issued for crowned vs uncrowned effigy. All of them simply state “Our effigy”. If they do a laureate head, I assume no specific Proclamation will be issued.

[paulmerton]

13 minutes ago, westminstrel said:

Correct.

There are already two Proclamations - one for a St. George and the Dragon reverse, and another for a Royal Coat of Arms (i.e., shield design) reverse.

These Proclamations cover all possible G&D and Shield design variations for KC III’s Sovereigns, unless they do a wholly radical design change.

It is also worth noting that there was no special Proclamation issued for crowned vs uncrowned effigy. All of them simply state “Our effigy”. If they do a laureate head, I assume no specific Proclamation will be issued.

Given that 1825 had both designs issued (the existing G&D design as well as the new shield design), I think this could possibly be another one of those years where the special shield design is only available on the proofs, while the bullion carries the normal G&D design.

🤔🤔🤔

[Olivard]

2 hours ago, paulmerton said:

Given that 1825 had both designs issued (the existing G&D design as well as the new shield design), I think this could possibly be another one of those years where the special shield design is only available on the proofs, while the bullion carries the normal G&D design.

🤔🤔🤔

And there are recent precedents for this in 2016 and 2017. 

[Chrisplym]

Welcome back @westminstrel We have missed you! Sorry to hear about your misfortune.

[Kvasir]

Silver Sovereigns?! And no more rose gold?!

[James32]

 

 

[Kvasir]

2 minutes ago, James32 said:

 

 

This might be an expensive turn of events. 😭

[SiCole]

Full Proof Sovereign £790 m7035

Half Proof Sovereign £420 m3035

3 coin set (Sov, half, quarter) £1255 mINC LEP 650

5 coin set (Five to Quarter) £6325 m5 is 535

Piedfort Sovereign £1445 m1260

Five Sovereign BU Edition Matte £3320 m360

“Last Red Sovereign” edition (St George) £895 m2111

[paulmerton]

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