PCGS to NGC

[pricha]

I personally prefer NGC slabs but also have PCGS slabs  in my collection. Has anyone ever sent off capsules to be swapped ? What is the likely result grading ? The same or higher/lower ?

Edited June 16 by pricha

[James32]

I'd imagine the same, but sure I've heard PCGS can be stricter somewhere ( on here most likely)

[KevjustKev]

I think you can ask them to be regraded but also ask to keep it the same if the grade may go down. I think @BackyardBullion a NGC service, best ask him

[BackyardBullion]

9 minutes ago, KevjustKev said:

I think you can ask them to be regraded but also ask to keep it the same if the grade may go down. I think @BackyardBullion a NGC service, best ask him

@GoldDiggerDave does this, not me

[AndrewSL76]

The following is my view based on years of experience of grading and cross grading coins. Others may well disagree with me! I can only speak about what I have experienced.

If you have PCGS graded coins that you want in NGC slabs I would advise on breaking them out and sending them in raw. PCGS have higher standards and you may get a better NGC grade on a raw coin than simply asking for a crossover. 

[GoldDiggerDave]

12 hours ago, pricha said:

I personally prefer NGC slabs but also have PCGS slabs  in my collection. Has anyone ever sent off capsules to be swapped ? What is the likely result grading ? The same or higher/lower ?

Hi Pricha,   

I'm our resident NGC authorised dealer.   It's not straight forward 100% of the time,   

Upon submitting for a crossover I can select an option for the coin not to be downgraded, however this will not guarantee they will cross grade the coin at the same grade, they will just not re slab and sent back if they take the opinion it would grade the same.  

Sometimes its very straight forward coin goes in and comes back at the same grade in the NGC slab.  

 

 

 

 

Edited June 17 by GoldDiggerDave

[marston59]

NGC CROSSOVER TO PCGS

CROSSOVERS IN THE LAST 30 DAYS

ATTEMPTED

3,833

SUCCESSFUL

1,445

SUCCESS RATE

37%

[Spyder]

Me personally, I would leave alone unless you think the coin is under graded and might get a better grade. Why spend extra when there is no need. I also have PCGS and NGC while trying to complete my Maklouf run.  One day it will get to the stage that I will have two complete run in both slabs or maybe exchange one for the other. 

The other option is, the coin you want to crossover, why not put a listing for same coin in the slab you want and either sell or exchange.

[pricha]

That's interesting thanks. It appears while both graders are respected PCGS seem to be more strict , as the figures above show. It was just an idea to make the collection more uniform but could possibly create a few problems. The idea of cracking a mint state coin out of a slab seems scary. Fair play if it's worked to your advantage.  

[AndrewSL76]

I had a PCGS coin that I was convinced was a better grade than the MS63 it had. It was bought in an old green holder and I had sent it to be regraded. It came back as an MS63. I cracked it out and sent to NGC who gave it a MS65. I then sent to PCGS and asked them to crossover and they accepted it. 

It was lucky, but also based on an understanding that it is possible. 

It is indeed scary when you first start to crack the slabs open. But once you have done it two or three times it’s fine. NGC are much easier to break open!!!

[Minted]

I guess it depends how you're storing them as well.  NGC slabs don't fit in PCGS boxes which is a bit annoying.  Not sure if PCGS slabs fit in NGC boxes?

[James32]

1 minute ago, Minted said:

I guess it depends how you're storing them as well.  NGC slabs don't fit in PCGS boxes which is a bit annoying.  Not sure if PCGS slabs fit in NGC boxes?

What has storing them got to do with the price of butter?

[Minted]

8 minutes ago, James32 said:

What has storing them got to do with the price of butter?

If he wants to keep the collection all together and in order, that's not possible when some of the slabs don't fit in the box.  Certainly irritated me when I found out.  Of course, if they're not being stored in a branded box then it may not matter at all. 🙂

[James32]

Just now, Minted said:

If he wants to keep the collection all together and in order, that's not possible when some of the slabs don't fit in the box.  Certainly irritated me when I found out.  Of course, if they're not being stored in a branded box then it may not matter at all. 🙂

Ahh I get you now. Tbh I just use thick coin wallets to protect the slabs and store flat. Getting one of those boxes into a safety deposit box is a no go.

[Darr3nG]

25 minutes ago, James32 said:

Getting one of those boxes into a safety deposit box is a no go.

Upgrade your SD box, ya cheapskate! 

[Orpster]

On 18/06/2024 at 14:46, Minted said:

I guess it depends how you're storing them as well.  NGC slabs don't fit in PCGS boxes which is a bit annoying.  Not sure if PCGS slabs fit in NGC boxes?

No, they are slightly taller and you cannot get the lid on the box

[pricha]

On 18/06/2024 at 14:48, James32 said:

What has storing them got to do with the price of butter?

Some people like it neat and tidy. My biggest moan about slabbed coins are the scratches on some of them.  Really spoils the whole idea of displaying nice coins.