2020 Una and the Lion

[watchesandwhisky]

Ebay figures are very easy to fake - plenty of £1 max seller fess promos as well so very easy to fake bid up your own coin....you never have to pay...and next time you sell it "looks" like one sold for that.

Im not saying that is what has happened for sure, but its very very easy to do and ebay prices should be taken with a pinch of salt. 

Real coin auctions are more likely to be accurate.

[Paul]

2 minutes ago, Madstacks said:

Real coin auctions are more likely to be accurate!

These are even higher still !!

Joking aside, you are right shill bidding can be easily done if you've access to a few eBay IDs with separate IP addresses 

[westminstrel]

3 hours ago, Madstacks said:

Real coin auctions are more likely to be accurate.

But who’s to say shill bidding doesn’t happen here too? Asking a genuine question... I have almost zero knowledge of how auctions operate. I’ve seen how high value items are won by clients over the phone who aren’t even present, or are represented by some agent... who are they? Corruption exists everywhere, even the most well known establishments. How can one trust an auction house any more than eBay, especially when it comes to high value items. 

Edited October 24, 2020 by westminstrel

[watchesandwhisky]

5 minutes ago, westminstrel said:

But who’s to say shill bidding doesn’t happen here too? Asking a genuine question... I have almost zero knowledge of how auctions operate. I’ve seen how high value items are won by clients over the phone who aren’t even present, or are represented by some agent... who are they? Corruption exists everywhere, even the most well known establishments. How can one trust an auction house any more than eBay, especially when it comes to high value items. 

I mentioned back in this topic way back (or maybe it was another una topic) that it could well be dealers bidding up coins to influence future sales - that can absolutely happen, But on ebay it can be done with zero expense if you was to pick the right time (or well a pound) - in the auction houses you will have to pay commission. Can happen anywhere but more funny business happens on ebay for sure.

[spazmodic]

Well.   I happened to be the seller and accepted an offer against a Buy it Now auction.   And yes I paid 13% fees, 10% to ebay and 3% to paypal.   That's still less than I would pay to my local auction house.

[MancunianStacker]

31 minutes ago, spazmodic said:

Well.   I happened to be the seller and accepted an offer against a Buy it Now auction.   And yes I paid 13% fees, 10% to ebay and 3% to paypal.   That's still less than I would pay to my local auction house.

Just fyi - Coin Cabinet Auction sales fee is 10% raw coins, 9% for graded coins. 

[sovereignsteve]

8 hours ago, Madstacks said:

Im not saying that is what has happened for sure, but its very very easy to do and ebay prices should be taken with a pinch of salt. 

It has happened for sure.

Edit.

I am referring to ebay sales in general, not to the recent case of the Una, just realised you may have been referring to that🤔

Edited October 24, 2020 by sovereignsteve

[Paul]

https://www.biddr.com/auctions/mdcmonaco/browse?a=1285&o=pd

The highest graded original Una and the Lion is going under the hammer later today in Monaco. 

Start bid 500,000 euros

also some fabulously rare UK graded gold in sale. 

Guesses on the hammer price to it sells for??

I'll say 630,000

[westminstrel]

1 hour ago, Paul said:

https://www.biddr.com/auctions/mdcmonaco/browse?a=1285&o=pd

The highest graded original Una and the Lion is going under the hammer later today in Monaco. 

Start bid 500,000 euros

also some fabulously rare UK graded gold in sale. 

Guesses on the hammer price to it sells for??

I'll say 630,000

Gahhhh!!! I wish I had 💰💰💰 

[Paul]

im following the lots of this MDC auction and some remarkable prices being realised already before the monster rare items later in sale

https://www.biddr.com/auctions/mdcmonaco/browse?a=1285&p=3

The mega rare British coins (inc Una & Lion) are around Lots #780 - #833

Currently at Lot #250ish

[Paul]

one of the many star items of the MDC auction today - start bid 200,000 euros - hammer price 550,000 euros 

https://www.biddr.com/auctions/mdcmonaco/browse?a=1285&l=1362334

[Paul]

https://www.biddr.com/auctions/mdcmonaco/browse?a=1285&p=8

Great British lots about to start 

Una & Lion is Lot #807

[Kman]

On 12/10/2020 at 16:39, Paul said:

and Aston Martins, stamps, Australia, jobs & 1970's coins have exactly what to do with 2020 Una & the Lion ???

What do these historic auctions have to do with the 2020 Una  

[Paul]

https://www.biddr.com/auctions/mdcmonaco/browse?a=1285&l=1362546

The original highest graded Una & Lion sold for 820,000 euros

[Oldun]

Silver Una PF70 with a first release label sold for a tad over the equivalent of £10,000 (before 11% buyers fee, so buyer paid £11,500ish) this month at auction in The Far East. 37 bids made but don’t know how many bidders were involved. Legit auction. Seller took a 10% hit for fees, so received a tad over the equivalent of £9,000

Edited October 31, 2020 by Oldun

[damok666]

Two raw Silver Unas just sold in the Coins of the Realm auction for £1860 and £1900.

[Bxlsteve]

Hello all! 
 

No news of the new master ingraver or did I miss something? 
 

many thanks !! 

Edited November 11, 2020 by Bxlsteve

[westminstrel]

34 minutes ago, Bxlsteve said:

Hello all! 
 

No news of the new master ingraver or did I miss something? 
 

many thanks !! 

Last year it was the very last coin released by the RM in December. This year they’ve churned out a lot of coins and series. So probably they will release the next coin in this one towards the very end of the year too (not too long to go now).

[CadmiumGreen]

8 minutes ago, westminstrel said:

Last year it was the very last coin released by the RM in December. This year they’ve churned out a lot of coins and series. So probably they will release the next coin in this one towards the very end of the year too (not too long to go now).

I thought it was released on 25 November last year.

[westminstrel]

20 hours ago, CadmiumGreen said:

I thought it was released on 25 November last year.

It may have... I also do remember people saying many of the coins weren’t shipped until much much later in January? 

[BrumChris]

23 minutes ago, westminstrel said:

It may have... I also do remember people saying many of the coins weren’t shipped until much much later in January? 

Yeah the last orders were fulfilled around then.

[AppleZippoandMetronome]

It was released late November. My own purchase was made on the 26th of November though that was a day or possibly even two after release - crazy this wasn't at all a sell out on launch day given where it is today.

There were problems that introduced delays to a lot of customers in receiving these coins. If I remember right it was the deep strike they were struggling with. The one that I originally received wound up being sent back due to the capsule opening in shipment and the coin getting scratched. It did take quite a while to get a replacement.

Edited November 12, 2020 by AppleZippoandMetronome

[damok666]

No news is good news (for my credit card). 

[medgasguy]

On 11/11/2020 at 15:29, CadmiumGreen said:

I thought it was released on 25 November last year.

It was, I checked my RM account to see when I ordered the coin for myself. The second issue will probably be released soon and I can't wait.

[MancunianStacker]

On 13/11/2020 at 18:47, damok666 said:

No news is good news (for my credit card). 

Just get another!! 😉