2019 Piedfort Sovereign and Five Sovereign

[westminstrel]

I just received an email from the Coin Connection about these two new releases. 

Apparently lower mintage than previous years, but whatever, I really don’t see these moving at all (unless they do something gimmicky like matte proofs... they better not! 🥴)

[MancunianStacker]

Ill pick mine up on eBay in 6-12 months -yawn

[kimchi]

Five pounds sounds interesting, wonder what's different! That's one series I wish I'd bought into when I started, a bit late (for me, not for others necessarily!) alas.

The Piedfort continues to mystify but as I have the previous ones I'm very glad to see it continue (though hope the Mint doesn't thoroughly mess it up with some contrived privy or finish or whatnot). I'm still very keen on the first two and think they will do OK in the longer-term. Lower mintage is good. I'm thinking 1250, something like that, I'd be (perhaps very nicely) surprised at 1000. I won't be buying though as this time there's no real reason apart from the 'set'. Both Pistrucci anniversary and the Sapphire Coronation fit into a few sets each, and cover mine - depending on what they do here (if it's a gimmick) it may only fall into one or two.

Interesting!

[westminstrel]

The 2018 piedfort with the 65 anniversary privy was available on the RM site until a couple months back if I’m recalling correctly. And the 2018 Five Sovereign is still not sold out. 

Reducing the mintage of the 2019 Proofs hardly achieved anything. I highly doubt a reduction in the mintages of these two will either. 

The RM has saturated the market with just too many varieties of Sovereigns and variations on its design. 

[Guest]

I will be buying the 5SOV BU this year as I gather that it will be highly desirable. The 5SOV size has a lot of interest right now despite cost and if it happens that these sell for 25% less in 12 months time on ebay I will buy a 2nd one and average the cost. There is a discount code for Coin Connection in July KEITH and this gets 2% off. I am pretty sure it can also be used for pre-orders. 

[westminstrel]

14 minutes ago, Numistacker said:

I will be buying the 5SOV BU this year as I gather that it will be highly desirable. The 5SOV size has a lot of interest right now despite cost and if it happens that these sell for 25% less in 12 months time on ebay I will buy a 2nd one and average the cost. There is a discount code for Coin Connection in July KEITH and this gets 2% off. I am pretty sure it can also be used for pre-orders. 

What makes you suspect it will be highly desirable? 

[Guest]

Just now, westminstrel said:

What makes you suspect it will be highly desirable? 

A throwaway comment by the mint Director at a recent cocktail party

[westminstrel]

Ah, so inside information 😀

[Sovereign]

the 5 sovereign if not a special design not worth buying from the mint in my opinion 😃

[Roy]

27 minutes ago, Numistacker said:

There is a discount code for Coin Connection in July KEITH and this gets 2% off

Is this discount only valid for Keith? What is it?

[Sovereign]

1 minute ago, Roy said:

Is this discount only valid for Keith? What is it?

they give the storms names why not the codes lol 

[Roy]

Ah, got it! Numi is offering a 2% discount on goods purchased from the Coin Connection during July?

[westminstrel]

15 minutes ago, Roy said:

Ah, got it! Numi is offering a 2% discount on goods purchased from the Coin Connection during July?

Yes. The code is KEITH.

[Roy]

Cool! I hope it can be used on pre-orders 😀

[Oldun]

Don’t see the desirability personally beyond the norm. Nice coin, standard modern design. That’s it. The force grows weak young paduwan.

 

I think the young hot terrible marketers the RM brought in are running out of steam.

[Roy]

1 hour ago, Numistacker said:

I will be buying the 5SOV BU this year as I gather that it will be highly desirable. 

Numi knows best

[Kman]

Assuming it's just the normal design, for that reason, I'm out

(I've been watching a lot of Dragons Den clips on youtube) 

[Guest]

49 minutes ago, Roy said:

Is this discount only valid for Keith? What is it?

KEITH is the magic word for July

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3 minutes ago, Kman said:

Assuming it's just the normal design, for that reason, I'm out

(I've been watching a lot of Dragons Den clips on youtube) 

Have you tried watching Shark Tank on CNBC i think its better

[Guest]

15 minutes ago, Oldun said:

Don’t see the desirability personally beyond the norm. Nice coin, standard modern design. That’s it. The force grows weak young paduwan.

 

I think the young hot terrible marketers the RM brought in are running out of steam.

Confucius say better to wait till steam run out before running out

[richatthecroft]

1 hour ago, Roy said:

Ah, got it! Numi is offering a 2% discount on goods purchased from the Coin Connection during July?

Keep up Roy 😂

[Oldun]

6 hours ago, Numistacker said:

Confucius say better to wait till steam run out before running out

So the mint director is Confucius and drinks cocktails....funky !

[westminstrel]

 

On 16/07/2019 at 01:12, westminstrel said:

I just received an email from the Coin Connection about these two new releases. 

Apparently lower mintage than previous years, but whatever, I really don’t see these moving at all (unless they do something gimmicky like matte proofs... they better not! 🥴)

I really should keep my mouth shut, shouldn’t I? 😰

Who’s biting?

[Zhorro]

5 minutes ago, westminstrel said:

 

I really should keep my mouth shut, shouldn’t I? 😰

Who’s biting?

The five sovereign is Matt with a mintage of 500.

https://www.thecoinconnection.co.uk/product/the-five-sovereign-matt-finish-gold-piece-2019-bu-coin-box-coa/

 

[westminstrel]

Indeed. But does mintage really even matter at this point given the numerous variations of this poor coin?

Where does the RM draw the line?

What will we have next year - plain edge Piedfort and Five Sovereign?

And the following year plain edge PLUS matte?

And then 2021 to celebrate the Queen’s 95th birthday something else special?

And what about 2022 to commemorate 70 years of HM’s accession?

And then 2023 to commemorate 70 years of HM’s coronation?

The last 5 years have had so many variations, and so can the next 5.

[Zhorro]

10 minutes ago, westminstrel said:

Indeed. But does mintage really even matter at this point given the numerous variations of this poor coin?

Where does the RM draw the line?

What will we have next year - plain edge Piedfort and Five Sovereign?

And the following year plain edge PLUS matte?

And then 2021 to celebrate the Queen’s 95th birthday something else special?

And what about 2022 to commemorate 70 years of HM’s accession?

And then 2023 to commemorate 60 years of HM’s coronation?

The last 5 years have had so many variations, and so can the next 5.

I totally agree with what you are saying about the Royal Mint's issue policy.  And then we had the winning of the cricket world cup last week and they could not be bothered to do anything special for it!

Anyway getting back to the Matt Quintuple Sovereign, I think it looks interesting, it's a first in terms of the quintuples, and it is a low mintage.  So, fell for it and I've ordered one from CC.