1825 shield

[gazer]

I have just received the 1825 sov I'm pleased with its condition, I might get it graded, I believe it's a AU58 hopefully ms60. If someone is willing to take a look see if you agree. I honestly don't mind if different opinions. Hope you can get a idea of my photos.

 

 

 

 

 

[Sherabnamdhak]

Is it NGC graded at AU58 if so ask Numi, I have a similar situation but I personally think AU58 is as good as it will get. Mind you I might be wrong. Lol. 

[sovereignsteve]

I honestly don't think the photos are clear enough to judge the details properly. It's looks like a nice clean coin though.

[Goldfever]

I don't have the experience to comment accurately on the grading but what a beautiful coin, an absolute gem ... !

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[gazer]

8 hours ago, Sherabnamdhak said:

Is it NGC graded at AU58 if so ask Numi, I have a similar situation but I personally think AU58 is as good as it will get. Mind you I might be wrong. Lol. 

Yes I think you are right, and thank you I will ask Mimi. I will try and upload better photos. Probably later today. As daughter needs my help.

Cheers gazer.

[gazer]

8 hours ago, sovereignsteve said:

I honestly don't think the photos are clear enough to judge the details properly. It's looks like a nice clean coin though.

Absolutely I will try and do better photos, I will have a go later today, it is a nice coin the hair and face is better than my photos, I really wish I can do better with the photos.

Cheers gazer.

[gazer]

8 hours ago, Goldfever said:

I don't have the experience to comment accurately on the grading but what a beautiful coin, an absolute gem ... !

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Thank you, I enjoyed looking at it when arrived. Nice one for my collection.

Cheers gazer.

[medgasguy]

Nice coin but impossible to tell not only details but whether or not it's been cleaned as well.

[gazer]

6 hours ago, medgasguy said:

Nice coin but impossible to tell not only details but whether or not it's been cleaned as well.

I will try in a few minutes to upload more photos but I just can't get the photos good enough, but definitely not cleaned.

Cheers gazer.

[sovereignsteve]

some better photos showing some wear. don't think there's any chance of it achieving better than 58 but I would guess nearer 55.

you never know though, they tend to be more lenient with the older Georges

[gazer]

Thank you Steve yes it's seems to close to a 55 possible 58? I will have to think a little while if to send off or not. 

Thank you everyone for your input.

Cheers gazer.

[Kman]

22 hours ago, sovereignsteve said:

It's looks like a nice clean coin though.

Are you hinting it looks cleaned?

It does look like it has a shine to it

[sovereignsteve]

16 minutes ago, Kman said:

Are you hinting it looks cleaned?

It does look like it has a shine to it

No I wasn't. The original photos did not look like it had been cleaned to me although the odd new photo does seem to show a more shiny coin. I cannot comment on this aspect without the coin in hand.

It was an unfortunate choice of words on my part, I must be more careful! I merely meant it looked like a coin without obvious problems.

[Kman]

1 minute ago, sovereignsteve said:

No I wasn't. The original photos did not look like it had been cleaned to me although the odd new photo does seem to show a more shiny coin. I cannot comment on this aspect without the coin in hand.

It was an unfortunate choice of words on my part, I must be more careful! I merely meant it looked like a coin without obvious problems.

Maybe it's just the flash but this pic is very shiny

[gazer]

Yes it is the flash I have to get a better phone, I am really bad at taking pictures iv tried reading up on it. 

Cheers gazer.

[gazer]

I wish you were living close as I would let you check the coin, I'm getting a better idea of grading, but you can't beat experience. Thank you Kman. Your opinion is welcome and appreciated.

[MickD]

I've found this useful for grading silver coins (haven't got any old gold coins so can't say).  It's a  bit limited as it only goes back to 1797 but I'm not aware of anything else out there.

The Standard Guide to Grading British Coins: Modern Milled British Pre-Decimal Issues (1797 to 1970) Paperback – 12 Dec 2014

 

[gazer]

Thank you MickD I will have a look at it. Cheers for taking the time to find out.

Cheers gazer.

[CadmiumGreen]

@gazer, I agree with @MickD, regarding “The Standard Guide to Grading British Coins: Modern Milled British Pre-Decimal Issues (1797 to 1970) Paperback – 12 Dec 2014)” is useful for helping one learn some of the aspects of British Coin grading. Indeed there is a section devoted to George IV (Wyon) Silver/Gold 1824-30. The grading pictorials are for GEF, EF, VF, F and Fair. Looking at your photos, and you can self assess, but, an EF grade is quoted as “Assessing this design in the higher grades is a question of checking for slight rubbing of the hair (which, not being protected by a laurel wreath, wears quite rapidly). The most unusual place for this to start is at the point just above the ear, which should itself also be checked, especially at the top.” Also of consideration for the grade, as others have noted would be a major ding/scratch free field. By no means am I very good at grading myself, but these references and the advice from those, as @sovereignsteve and @sg86, can be highly valued and trusted.

I had posted an example of my 1825 George IV Gold Sovereign (AU58) I had received recently in “Today I Received” section...

An 1825 George IV Gold Sovereign in great condition with a grade of AU58.



[gazer]

First of all your coin is a great one thank you for sharing your photos first Class.

Your write up is extremely detailed and informative, I am definitely checking out how to grade better, I find it interesting and a good learning curve.

I agree with you about sovereignsteve and sg86. 

Looking at your coin it looks slightly better than mine, but reading from your write up, above the ears mine is the same as yours and the ears are about the same, mine as a very fine scratch can't see with just the eye, and your coin looks slightly better around the shield. 

Again if I could take better pictures you could see both coins are similar apart from what I have mentioned, mine might get a (55)  Thank you.

Cheers gazer.

[Guest]

Nice! The George IV bare head sovereign seems to be quite hard to find?

[gazer]

Thank you, they are a bit harder to get, this is why I would like to be sure if I can get at least a (55) hope to get a (58?) 

Cheers gazer.

[SVcollector]

can you show us a clear picture of the rim? it seems mounted or tooled at 12 o clock. 

[gazer]

Hi SVcollector I would but I have just sent off for grading, it's going to be a while before getting back. I will show show the coin when it comes back, I'm was still unsure about it, I'm hoping it gets a grade? Here is hoping.

Cheers gazer.