Sovereigns. Time to get some gold

[craig12]

I notice the bullion centre states all sovs are cleaned in the ultrasonic cleaning bath , and in no way effects the sovereign

is that normal practice?

[HighlandTiger]

I notice the bullion centre states all sovs are cleaned in the ultrasonic cleaning bath , and in no way effects the sovereign

is that normal practice?

 

Havn't got a clue if it is normal, but it saves me cleaning them before they go into the album. But when it comes to gold coins, I don't think the collectors are as obsessed with the cleaning issue as collectors of all other coins seem to be.

[Pete]

I notice the bullion centre states all sovs are cleaned in the ultrasonic cleaning bath , and in no way effects the sovereign

is that normal practice?

 

I clean all old sovs in an ultrasonic bath to get all the dirt and grime out of all the nooks & crannies.

It can make a considerable difference in the appearance of the coin, no longer blackened with 100 years of who knows what stuck to it.

[Carpe Diem]

I notice that people are spending up to £200 on original 1989 sovereign Royal Mint boxes and Certs of Authenticity, without the coins included, like here on eBay

 

What's stopping people picking up a 1989 sov and then bunging it in one of these, complete the COA and then passing it off as the original.  OK, if the coin is kosher and so is the box and COA then maybe people don't mind, especially as it could bump up the resale value; but doesn't it mean you could be buying something which has been pieced together and ultimately defeats the object of owning a coin in that it's not really correlated with the COA?

[HighlandTiger]

I notice that people are spending up to £200 on original 1989 sovereign Royal Mint boxes and Certs of Authenticity, without the coins included, like here on eBay

 

What's stopping people picking up a 1989 sov and then bunging it in one of these, complete the COA and then passing it off as the original.  OK, if the coin is kosher and so is the box and COA then maybe people don't mind, especially as it could bump up the resale value; but doesn't it mean you could be buying something which has been pieced together and ultimately defeats the object of owning a coin in that it's not really correlated with the COA?

 

For there to be an empty box, somewhere along the line there is the coin that was originally in the box. All people will be doing is returning these coins to these boxes. The only problem is if the box and coa is for a proof coin, and someone sticks a BU coin in a proof box, and tries to pass it off as a proof. 

[Cornishfarmer]

For there to be an empty box, somewhere along the line there is the coin that was originally in the box. All people will be doing is returning these coins to these boxes. The only problem is if the box and coa is for a proof coin, and someone sticks a BU coin in a proof box, and tries to pass it off as a proof.

I thought all 1989 were proofs

[HighlandTiger]

That's true CF but I've also noted lots of other boxes for sale on eBay where it is possible to get a proof box and coa and stick in a bu coin

I'm actually looking for a proof box and coa for a 2009 half sov. I've got the proof coin but I want a box to go with it

[Kman]

Does anyone know what is a good price for a 2012 proof sovereign?

 

Very hard to see any full ones sold on ebay and dealers are quite high as you would expect 

[arshimo2012]

Does anyone know what is a good price for a 2012 proof sovereign?

Very hard to see any full ones sold on ebay and dealers are quite high as you would expect

I think under £375 is a good price I have seen them going for £500+ back in 2012 but the prices have gone down recently.

[Pete]

Does anyone know what is a good price for a 2012 proof sovereign?

 

Very hard to see any full ones sold on ebay and dealers are quite high as you would expect 

 

Spot + 10% is a fair price but any higher you need to be desperate.

[Kman]

Spot + 10% is a fair price but any higher you need to be desperate.

 

Would never get any of the sovereign proofs I want for that 

[Kman]

This isn't a proof sovereign is it? 

 

Just a bullion in a box, even if it does have a certificate from "pineapple direct limited" lol.  

[Pete]

This isn't a proof sovereign is it? 

 

Just a bullion in a box, even if it does have a certificate from "pineapple direct limited" lol.  

 

Regular bullion coin in a fancy box so the listing title is incorrect.

Got the same coin from HGM some months back for spot +3% and it was in the blister plastic but not the box.

[simon13]

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1979-Proof-Sovereign-22-carat-Gold-Coin-/221642160257?ssPageName=ADME:B:WNA:GB:3160

 

Fancy giving this a shot.  Does it all look good to you pros?

[garthy]

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1979-Proof-Sovereign-22-carat-Gold-Coin-/221642160257?ssPageName=ADME:B:WNA:GB:3160

 

Fancy giving this a shot.  Does it all look good to you pros?

 

Coin looks good but it looks like it's missing the certificate of authenticity, if I were paying the extra for a proof sovereign I'd want a cert.  

[simon13]

Thanks. Not too fussed about certificate. Top line £210 ish, delivered a good bid to put, or too high?

[arshimo2012]

The 1979 proof sovereigns weren't issued with the certificate.

http://www.goldsovereigns.co.uk/1979sovereign.php

[simon13]

Gone for it. Highest bidder

[garthy]

The 1979 proof sovereigns weren't issued with the certificate.

http://www.goldsovereigns.co.uk/1979sovereign.php

 

Well, never knew that, I have a 1980 proof with a COA and just assumed the 79 would also have one, but you know what they say about assumptions, cheers for clearing that one up arshi, and sorry Simon for giving you bad information, good luck on the auction! 

[simon13]

I could save some money and get theae. http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=item.view&alt=web&id=291342714277

[Danny-boy]

I could save some money and get theae. http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=item.view&alt=web&id=291342714277

No.

[simon13]

Heh, just joking. I remember finding an import website where you could bulk buy fake coins including sovs.

[barney]

£208 went cheap in the end for a proof, book price £250

[Danny-boy]

So I assume Simon didn't win it then?

[simon13]

Bid £207