1878 queen victoria full sovereign

[Deputydog]

Hi, i hope all is well.

I have been offered this for £225, friend of a friend needs money and knows i collect coins

Unsure if genuine, anybody help.

Thanks for your help.

Deputydog

[PansPurse]

Weight looks a little light (but only by 0.1 grams). What are the diameter and thickness?

[SVcollector]

weight is way too light i think. There is a lot wear on that coin and i dont think you should buy it. 

It would  be difficult to sell it at that condition. 

Normal weight should be 7,94-8 gr. 

 

[Deputydog]

Thanks for your help.

I think i will say no.

Thanks

Deputydog

[PansPurse]

I politely disagree, you could offer them spot price for the weight (which is not far off from what they're asking, I make it £220)

[Sovsaver]

If it’s not genuinely gold but the dimensions are correct it would mean it’s probably tungsten. I doubt it’s not genuine, but haven’t measured it. Nominally it seems to be 0.11 grams too light, to put it into perspective that’s 6 cubic mm of gold missing, or 1.4% missing. OMG I love maths! I think that percentage can represent the wear.

24 minutes ago, SVcollector said:

weight is way too light i think. There is a lot wear on that coin and i dont think you should buy it. 

It would  be difficult to sell it at that condition. 

Normal weight should be 7,94-8 gr. 

 

But it’s price is spot? Seems entirely fair price.

Were the scales calibrated with a known weight first I wonder?

[Deputydog]

Hi, thanks for your reply.

The scales were not calibrated first.

This coin collecting is enjoyable but confusing at same time.

Deputydog

[PansPurse]

10 minutes ago, Sovsaver said:

If it’s not genuinely gold but the dimensions are correct it would mean it’s probably tungsten. I doubt it’s not genuine, but haven’t measured it. Nominally it seems to be 0.11 grams too light, to put it into perspective that’s 6 cubic mm of gold missing, or 1.4% missing. OMG I love maths! I think that percentage can represent the wear.

But it’s price is spot? Seems entirely fair price.

Were the scales calibrated with a known weight first I wonder?

Put another way, that works out at about £3 or 4 of missing gold from wear and tear

[Roy]

How good a friend of your friend?

Weigh that up first 

[Cornishfarmer]

I don’t have a clue but I don’t like it, it is very worn but the lettering is clear as a bell, could have been mounted once?     I’d spend another £10/£15 and get one from HGM then you’ll be able to sleep well knowing it’s genuine 

[sovereignsteve]

Nothing about it looks fake to my eyes.

[PansPurse]

28 minutes ago, sovereignsteve said:

Nothing about it looks fake to my eyes.

Definitely an opinion I'd trust 

[tbone]

Unless you really know what you're doing, its a risk.  Sovs are faked a lot and are very good (at least according to my dealer friend).  For me, I always deal with a dealer I trust.  Here you have no recourse, and might even lose a friend over it.  Politely pass I say.