eddi

Not the best pic

I think Kookaburracollect was collecting them so if he  miss 5 he has a chance  noo 😀

Kookaburracollect

I checked the angels   a have  1889   and 1896    

Hmm a was offered  one `1848 last summer for 20 euro over spot  but a was not interested .If  a see another one a let u know.

Yes its true if u ask dealers they will charge premium on top of they bullion premium   HGM doas as well   when a went to buy some coin in shop a wanted  2010  but didnt  like the premium  so a said just give me the cheapest  and they give 2010 brand new in plastic . If a asked for the date a would pay another 4 pound  on top.

A have few angels   a will check and let u know if a have any of u dates 

9 hours ago, Kookaburracollector said:

Hello @whuamai

Welcome to this thread..we are a quite civilised and friendly group of people!

20 Francs Coins are easy to sell, as they are 90% gold like most other coins used in circulation.

Sovereigns will always carry a small premium, as they are more widely collected.

For me the odd 2 or 3% is irrelevant in what I collect, and I really don’t know why so many people obsess about it. If you get 2% less on £10000 it’s only £200..not a big deal! 

Personally, I collect the 20 francs coins because I find them more interesting than sovereigns..the financial side of things is less important, as I don’t believe I will ever sell my collection.

It sounds like Germany is a good place to collect the LMU coins..I have never bought one at spot!

What date are you missing 

Well  one a bought  one  a exchange  with 20 Leva  Bullgarian and a had to pay 100 euro on top. These are  minted in Italy   5000 pieces   each .

In uk hard to find  in eu u can but very high premium

20 francs Albania

Uu thats a beauty . Full set haa. the only full set a have is 50 p beatrix potter🤣🤣.

About the 1899 rooster I think I  pass it  this time  ,a bought   another premium  lmu coin  a show in minute 

 augur   

Nice cleaning coin    I have to try it

No its Edward    1905  london

A have one   D 22.2mm    W 7.93 g   sg 16.4   bought long time ago, a guess your diameter  must be different 

Uuu  my mistake  I was offered 1900 for less  (not  have ) 😉

Kookaburracollec 

Can u let me know when it comes  if  the coin is ok

Yes a think its decent price. A have 1900 for a bit less than this one but 1899 is what am after .I will think about it .Just bought few 10 francs  to sit with the 20 francs .

A have to contact  my dealers see what they have  so I can decide accordingly😉

Yes  a know  they have a bit of premium. Am not in the rush  a will wait 2 -3 months and see how it play out with the pound  and  gold,  then a guess  it will be easier to decide

Kookaburracollect  

Nice collection

I think is just bit more expensive  cos its the early years as far as a know

Thats good  Rosters  tick.😉 A was thinking of getting  one 1900 or 1899 .  A  found one  for around 250 pound .

  Kookaburracollect was yours higher   Just trying to figure out  if its right  premium  A sow them for around 300 pound on ebay 

This is A             

Got the picture  the one a have is b

1 hour ago, augur said:

Interesting incomplete P in Premier 

also @eddi, would you be able to explain the Position A and B on the obverse of Belgian 20 Francs?

I  have one leopold I but the p is normal,    a rare  one is without a dot after L

Leopold II  

Position A and Position B
Position A = With the obverse (head) side facing downwards, the lettering is upright.
Position B = With the obverse (head) side facing upwards, the lettering is upright.
 

The first one when he made himself King.  Its another German version as well

This is  another 20 lire napoleone this time

On 02/02/2019 at 09:52, KevinFlynn said:

So, what I am thinking after having done the deed...

Looking at the premiums I paid, I realize I entered collector's territory. Not that I mind, but I am still a bullion stacker at heart and you will never find me encapsulating or slabbing a coin. The Rooster I got at bullion premium, the Helvetia was seriously expensive, somwething that does not surprise me, as I already knew from eyeing these as variations on the Vreneli. The Leopold was still in bullion range the Umberto just about entered collector's range.

I bought collector's pieces before, like a 10 Franken Vreneli or a 10 Goldmark, to have variations of coins I'm stacking. I do however keep these to single pieces. Regarding LMU coins, I will not break my rule of not buying gold anonymously. This for me rules out hunting for date runs or specific dates, which I am convinced would only be possible online. I am also much too instant gratification to wait for low prices or low spot, I am buying what I want, and I am buying at regular intervals (cost averaging bullion).

I can see myself completing one of each of the french, belgian, italian variants (the swiss I already have).

From what I know now that would be

France Napoleon III
France Napoleon III laure
France Genie
France Coq - check
Belgium Leopold II (variant)
Belgium Leopold II (variant)
Belgium Albert (variant)
Belgium Albert (variant)
Italy Emanuele II
Italy Umberto I - check
Italy Emanuele III (variant)
Italy Emanuele III (variant)
Italy Emanuele III (variant)
Swiss Helvetia - check
Swiss Vreneli - check

I would need to research if that is possible, as if one of these would have serious collector's value, I would be out as my very special variation of OCD would not make me want to start this if I could not finish it.

If not, I could see myself adding those that I found of reasonable premium to the coins I will stack regularly (Vrenelis and 20 Goldmark may get boring over time). Design wise I guess these could be french Roosters and Angels.

Now on to look for an old fashioned book on Latin Monetary Union (english or german)...

Yes the Albert coin  Belgium   have a premium  cos they are 250000 minted  125000 belgium  125000 flamish , also the leopold  1865  .You can get for small premium  the Austrian 20 francs  and the  Hungarian one . The Emanuele  III have very high premium at least double the gold value .

The 20 lire from 1859  dawn have a big premium  , the  20 francs  French are easy to collect  from 1848 dawn they command a premium of 30 to 50 euro   but you can collect  them  compared to the Italian ones   which are very expensive  some dates cost over 500 euro

The rest of them have big premiums and is  hard to find one  for a decent  price