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Sadly nothing new and ebay doesn't seem to have any interest in doing anything about it as its been going on for years. I've reported many very obvious fakes over the years and they never get taken down. Ebay enjoys their cut too much and doesn't seem to give a damn about their platform being used this way.
At least you've done the right thing in educating yourself enough to know how to check. Many people buy first and learn all that later on down the road when its too late to do anything about it.

Sadly nothing new and ebay doesn't seem to have any interest in doing anything about it as its been going on for years. I've reported many very obvious fakes over the years and they never get taken down. Ebay enjoys their cut too much and doesn't seem to give a damn about their platform being used this way.
At least you've done the right thing in educating yourself enough to know how to check. Many people buy first and learn all that later on down the road when its too late to do anything about it.

Just a warning that I should have known better. I saw for sale on eBay some Scottsdale mint 1 oz bars that looked really good price just slightly on the bargain side,the seller had 100% positive feedback with money back guarantee so I bought 2 , I tested when arrived and oh dear they stuck to my silver slide like you know what to a blanket,so I messaged the seller he says oh I didn’t know how can you tell etc . Upshot is I returned said bars and get money back. Lesson hopefully learned. But my question is why do eBay who must know this is going on,let it happen ? . I have reported to them but don’t hold out much hope of them ever clamping down on these frauds . So new members like me just be careful out there.

100% agree with @dicker. I really have a very visceral reaction when I see some of the stuff they've repackaged to make look so much better than it really is. Its the same tactics places like Westminster Collection use to (IMO) scam people who don't know any better. Its probably worse coming from the RM though because I'd imagine your average person would think the RM is a more trust worthy institution than places like WC. I think going down this road is fundamentally wrong and I do think it is very much scam like behaviour.

100% agree with @dicker. I really have a very visceral reaction when I see some of the stuff they've repackaged to make look so much better than it really is. Its the same tactics places like Westminster Collection use to (IMO) scam people who don't know any better. Its probably worse coming from the RM though because I'd imagine your average person would think the RM is a more trust worthy institution than places like WC. I think going down this road is fundamentally wrong and I do think it is very much scam like behaviour.

100% agree with @dicker. I really have a very visceral reaction when I see some of the stuff they've repackaged to make look so much better than it really is. Its the same tactics places like Westminster Collection use to (IMO) scam people who don't know any better. Its probably worse coming from the RM though because I'd imagine your average person would think the RM is a more trust worthy institution than places like WC. I think going down this road is fundamentally wrong and I do think it is very much scam like behaviour.

How about this lovely Canadian dollar for £50
https://www.royalmint.com/shop/world/1961-Elizabeth-II-Silver-Canadian-Dollar/
Caught my eye as there is an eBay seller who will ship you one from Canada for less than half the price

They have a few crackers in world coinage, especially what they charge for bank notes.  As an example this Isle of Man £1 note for £75
https://www.royalmint.com/shop/banknotes/Queen-Elizabeth-II-1990-Isle-of-Man-1-Banknote/
Then the same note on eBay

Shocking.
The other end of the scale this Hong Kong 1975 $1000 for £3215
https://www.royalmint.com/shop/monarch/queen-elizabeth-ii/Queen-Elizabeth-II-Hong-Kong-1975-Gold-Proof-1000/
Cant see a recent sale of this year (last one I can see was in a Coin Cabinet auction in 2020 for £725), they have one at Atkinsons at the minute, a 1986, for £940.
If you have not seen it already the Coin Cabinet have actually added a tool to view old auction results by coin which is really good, you will need an account to log in.  The shown prices do not include buyers fee's which is a bit of a pain as they have both normal auctions (usually 6%) and premium (18% I think) but you can also view their previous auctions to check what the buyers fees are if you are so inclined, but every price needs a minimum of 6% +VAT adding to it.  https://thecoincabinet.com/auctions/auction-results/

I really don't understand the direction the mint is taking with these kind of releases and coins.
It's obviously just pure profiteering and unfortunately it targets people that don't know better.

For me it’s the sets that the RM come up with mixing old and new. 
https://www.royalmint.com/shop/coin-sets/Charles-II-Premium-Exclusive-Set/
92k
At least you get a wooden box!

Sadly ebay really is a bad place to shop for collectable items worth more than a few £s unless you really know what you're looking at. I had my own run in with this on ebay when buying a valuable retro game cartridge for a friend as a christmas gift. That field is not at all my speciality but I know enough to spot the obvious fakes a mile away and I know to open any cartrdiges to check the boards inside for authenticity. The one I got was not authentic despite coming from a seller with really high feedback and numerous assurances that the cartridge had been checked. When I notified the seller and sent pictures of the board the reply I got was an absolute freak out about how I'd destroyed the item which he still claimed was authentic. I opened a case and got my money back. I had to send the item back but I did permanently mark it as fake so it couldn't easily be resold. Not that this matters as it costs a couple £s to buy a replacement off Aliexpress that can then be easily turned around for over £100 to someone who doesn't check things thoroughly.
The potential profit for the morally bankrupt seller is the problem. For any of these things the potential profit is high enough to make the few nuisance cases of people seeing what is actually going on worth dealing with. Even if only one out of every 10 sales results in the item going to someone who just accepts it there is still enough profit to make that worth while for the seller. Do that using a number of accounts enough times and there is sadly probably really good money in it.
The average buyer does really need to educate themselves when buying on ebay but equally ebay really needs to make more of a point of highlighting the fraud that they collect fees for on their platform and helping more people avoid it. They really have done an exceptionl job when it comes to dodging their responsibility on this.

Sadly ebay really is a bad place to shop for collectable items worth more than a few £s unless you really know what you're looking at. I had my own run in with this on ebay when buying a valuable retro game cartridge for a friend as a christmas gift. That field is not at all my speciality but I know enough to spot the obvious fakes a mile away and I know to open any cartrdiges to check the boards inside for authenticity. The one I got was not authentic despite coming from a seller with really high feedback and numerous assurances that the cartridge had been checked. When I notified the seller and sent pictures of the board the reply I got was an absolute freak out about how I'd destroyed the item which he still claimed was authentic. I opened a case and got my money back. I had to send the item back but I did permanently mark it as fake so it couldn't easily be resold. Not that this matters as it costs a couple £s to buy a replacement off Aliexpress that can then be easily turned around for over £100 to someone who doesn't check things thoroughly.
The potential profit for the morally bankrupt seller is the problem. For any of these things the potential profit is high enough to make the few nuisance cases of people seeing what is actually going on worth dealing with. Even if only one out of every 10 sales results in the item going to someone who just accepts it there is still enough profit to make that worth while for the seller. Do that using a number of accounts enough times and there is sadly probably really good money in it.
The average buyer does really need to educate themselves when buying on ebay but equally ebay really needs to make more of a point of highlighting the fraud that they collect fees for on their platform and helping more people avoid it. They really have done an exceptionl job when it comes to dodging their responsibility on this.

The vast majority of what I own is very safely stored away. There are some exceptions though which I make for some of the coins I am most into. I don't currently have anything on display as such but I do keep them within easy reach of where I work for moments I want to look away from the screen and just focus on something else for a while.
I have considered framing up some of the silver proof sets I have that I'm really into. Some of the 25cent sets from Canada or the 10p A to Z series. I'd also like to frame up the silver proof round pound run when I complete it. One day.

I'm wondering do you display your coins a shelf or do you normally just put it in a storage/vault.
This is more as a (semi)numismatics side since I feel like stackers will mostly just hide it or put it in a vault.
For me, I enjoy looking at the coins that I'm collecting instead of putting it inside a vault. Well that until something nice I like to replace it.

That’s 2 that I know where they keep stuff now 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

Best place for storing valuable coins is under floorboards but let close family know where they fcukin are.
Easy for you to access and what burglar is going to start ripping up floorboards ?
Why pay monthly etc for safety deposit boxes get your dosh paid monthly to the forum and lock up more deals 👍🏻

A Post of something Nice and a definitive guide to Importing Silver.
 
I like quirky sparkling things or Coins/Bars not available in the U.K. and occasionally Import.
Firstly- Look at the coin❤️ Worth it. Dragon Heaven.
Secondly- This is Importing SILVER from outside of the U.K. and the costs involved. Courier fees can Vary. I’ll be transparent as I’m not looking to flip a quick buck.
I bought 3 coins to meet the free delivery threshold ($300 Aus) from The Perth Mint Australia.  Cost for three- £172.91
I ordered them on the 27th Dec during their shutdown but knew they would be snapped up quick and can only find one supplier selling them in Europe for £100+ each. You would still be paying duties and fees on top from Europe. 
You cannot claim VAT back on SILVER.
Perth Mint are very thorough and update your order with tracking through FedEx. It’s an easy process. Packaging is always fantastic.
I received a message saying the VAT and handling fees are due to FedEx and have a portal link to pay £43.72.
Delivered. In my experience a 7-10 day turnaround.
Total- Coins £172.91 + all charges £43.72 equals £216.63.
Therefore 1 coin is £72.21. 
Still cheaper, better quality and more reliable than a Royal Mint Equivalent 1oz Proof of £103.50
It is legal, opens your eyes to other world mints and very satisfying you have something out of the norm. I appreciate they will possibly come to the U.K. and be cheaper but it’s always a journey and sense of satisfaction.

Sadly ebay really is a bad place to shop for collectable items worth more than a few £s unless you really know what you're looking at. I had my own run in with this on ebay when buying a valuable retro game cartridge for a friend as a christmas gift. That field is not at all my speciality but I know enough to spot the obvious fakes a mile away and I know to open any cartrdiges to check the boards inside for authenticity. The one I got was not authentic despite coming from a seller with really high feedback and numerous assurances that the cartridge had been checked. When I notified the seller and sent pictures of the board the reply I got was an absolute freak out about how I'd destroyed the item which he still claimed was authentic. I opened a case and got my money back. I had to send the item back but I did permanently mark it as fake so it couldn't easily be resold. Not that this matters as it costs a couple £s to buy a replacement off Aliexpress that can then be easily turned around for over £100 to someone who doesn't check things thoroughly.
The potential profit for the morally bankrupt seller is the problem. For any of these things the potential profit is high enough to make the few nuisance cases of people seeing what is actually going on worth dealing with. Even if only one out of every 10 sales results in the item going to someone who just accepts it there is still enough profit to make that worth while for the seller. Do that using a number of accounts enough times and there is sadly probably really good money in it.
The average buyer does really need to educate themselves when buying on ebay but equally ebay really needs to make more of a point of highlighting the fraud that they collect fees for on their platform and helping more people avoid it. They really have done an exceptionl job when it comes to dodging their responsibility on this.

Sadly ebay really is a bad place to shop for collectable items worth more than a few £s unless you really know what you're looking at. I had my own run in with this on ebay when buying a valuable retro game cartridge for a friend as a christmas gift. That field is not at all my speciality but I know enough to spot the obvious fakes a mile away and I know to open any cartrdiges to check the boards inside for authenticity. The one I got was not authentic despite coming from a seller with really high feedback and numerous assurances that the cartridge had been checked. When I notified the seller and sent pictures of the board the reply I got was an absolute freak out about how I'd destroyed the item which he still claimed was authentic. I opened a case and got my money back. I had to send the item back but I did permanently mark it as fake so it couldn't easily be resold. Not that this matters as it costs a couple £s to buy a replacement off Aliexpress that can then be easily turned around for over £100 to someone who doesn't check things thoroughly.
The potential profit for the morally bankrupt seller is the problem. For any of these things the potential profit is high enough to make the few nuisance cases of people seeing what is actually going on worth dealing with. Even if only one out of every 10 sales results in the item going to someone who just accepts it there is still enough profit to make that worth while for the seller. Do that using a number of accounts enough times and there is sadly probably really good money in it.
The average buyer does really need to educate themselves when buying on ebay but equally ebay really needs to make more of a point of highlighting the fraud that they collect fees for on their platform and helping more people avoid it. They really have done an exceptionl job when it comes to dodging their responsibility on this.

Sadly ebay really is a bad place to shop for collectable items worth more than a few £s unless you really know what you're looking at. I had my own run in with this on ebay when buying a valuable retro game cartridge for a friend as a christmas gift. That field is not at all my speciality but I know enough to spot the obvious fakes a mile away and I know to open any cartrdiges to check the boards inside for authenticity. The one I got was not authentic despite coming from a seller with really high feedback and numerous assurances that the cartridge had been checked. When I notified the seller and sent pictures of the board the reply I got was an absolute freak out about how I'd destroyed the item which he still claimed was authentic. I opened a case and got my money back. I had to send the item back but I did permanently mark it as fake so it couldn't easily be resold. Not that this matters as it costs a couple £s to buy a replacement off Aliexpress that can then be easily turned around for over £100 to someone who doesn't check things thoroughly.
The potential profit for the morally bankrupt seller is the problem. For any of these things the potential profit is high enough to make the few nuisance cases of people seeing what is actually going on worth dealing with. Even if only one out of every 10 sales results in the item going to someone who just accepts it there is still enough profit to make that worth while for the seller. Do that using a number of accounts enough times and there is sadly probably really good money in it.
The average buyer does really need to educate themselves when buying on ebay but equally ebay really needs to make more of a point of highlighting the fraud that they collect fees for on their platform and helping more people avoid it. They really have done an exceptionl job when it comes to dodging their responsibility on this.

Sadly ebay really is a bad place to shop for collectable items worth more than a few £s unless you really know what you're looking at. I had my own run in with this on ebay when buying a valuable retro game cartridge for a friend as a christmas gift. That field is not at all my speciality but I know enough to spot the obvious fakes a mile away and I know to open any cartrdiges to check the boards inside for authenticity. The one I got was not authentic despite coming from a seller with really high feedback and numerous assurances that the cartridge had been checked. When I notified the seller and sent pictures of the board the reply I got was an absolute freak out about how I'd destroyed the item which he still claimed was authentic. I opened a case and got my money back. I had to send the item back but I did permanently mark it as fake so it couldn't easily be resold. Not that this matters as it costs a couple £s to buy a replacement off Aliexpress that can then be easily turned around for over £100 to someone who doesn't check things thoroughly.
The potential profit for the morally bankrupt seller is the problem. For any of these things the potential profit is high enough to make the few nuisance cases of people seeing what is actually going on worth dealing with. Even if only one out of every 10 sales results in the item going to someone who just accepts it there is still enough profit to make that worth while for the seller. Do that using a number of accounts enough times and there is sadly probably really good money in it.
The average buyer does really need to educate themselves when buying on ebay but equally ebay really needs to make more of a point of highlighting the fraud that they collect fees for on their platform and helping more people avoid it. They really have done an exceptionl job when it comes to dodging their responsibility on this.

Sadly ebay really is a bad place to shop for collectable items worth more than a few £s unless you really know what you're looking at. I had my own run in with this on ebay when buying a valuable retro game cartridge for a friend as a christmas gift. That field is not at all my speciality but I know enough to spot the obvious fakes a mile away and I know to open any cartrdiges to check the boards inside for authenticity. The one I got was not authentic despite coming from a seller with really high feedback and numerous assurances that the cartridge had been checked. When I notified the seller and sent pictures of the board the reply I got was an absolute freak out about how I'd destroyed the item which he still claimed was authentic. I opened a case and got my money back. I had to send the item back but I did permanently mark it as fake so it couldn't easily be resold. Not that this matters as it costs a couple £s to buy a replacement off Aliexpress that can then be easily turned around for over £100 to someone who doesn't check things thoroughly.
The potential profit for the morally bankrupt seller is the problem. For any of these things the potential profit is high enough to make the few nuisance cases of people seeing what is actually going on worth dealing with. Even if only one out of every 10 sales results in the item going to someone who just accepts it there is still enough profit to make that worth while for the seller. Do that using a number of accounts enough times and there is sadly probably really good money in it.
The average buyer does really need to educate themselves when buying on ebay but equally ebay really needs to make more of a point of highlighting the fraud that they collect fees for on their platform and helping more people avoid it. They really have done an exceptionl job when it comes to dodging their responsibility on this.

I think we need to not fall into the trap of expecting the average punter to know what most of us in the TSF know. These people aren’t scamming people in the know. They are scamming innocent people. That person will never invest in gold again as it’s ’dodgy And dangerous’. Gives the whole bullion industry a bad name. 

If you are buying scrap there are certain items to avoid such as candlesticks as they have weighted bottoms and many cutlery knives have weighted handles.

If you regularly sell on ebay one thing you (sadly and quite often annoyingly) come to realize is that very few people actually read an items description. Quite often someone will see the title, look at the first picture and base their bid/purchase on that alone. Whilst the title of this one does clearly give a weight indicating it is a half sov one other thing I've noticed in the coin world is that quite often people rush to buy things without knowing anything about it. I suspect there is a combination of those two things at play with this auction.
The above being said though this is very much a thing on ebay which I'd mostly chalk up to some form of auction fever. You'll see the same behaviour if you attend an auction in person. I was at one back in November and watched as one lot after the other went for well over what you could buy the items for from the shops around that sold them. Factoring in auction fees people paid as much as double for some of the goods and it wsan't because it was a charity auction. Its not something I'll ever understand.

If you regularly sell on ebay one thing you (sadly and quite often annoyingly) come to realize is that very few people actually read an items description. Quite often someone will see the title, look at the first picture and base their bid/purchase on that alone. Whilst the title of this one does clearly give a weight indicating it is a half sov one other thing I've noticed in the coin world is that quite often people rush to buy things without knowing anything about it. I suspect there is a combination of those two things at play with this auction.
The above being said though this is very much a thing on ebay which I'd mostly chalk up to some form of auction fever. You'll see the same behaviour if you attend an auction in person. I was at one back in November and watched as one lot after the other went for well over what you could buy the items for from the shops around that sold them. Factoring in auction fees people paid as much as double for some of the goods and it wsan't because it was a charity auction. Its not something I'll ever understand.