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PenguinUK

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    PenguinUK reacted to James32 in Only special delivery covers bullion ( great tagline we all love to use )... unless there's an actual problem.   
    I get the impression it's some ( although extremely weird) auto response when an item is misplaced. 
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    PenguinUK reacted to Jay2 in 1oz Silver Maple coin 2013 - discount starting price (£15) (milk spots) - Free post. 1 week auction   
    Thanks, Pengiun. Yeah I saw the template and advice page, but was interested in a fellow first-time auctioneer's first impressions. Good luck with finalising it and any future sales.
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    PenguinUK reacted to Solachesis in 1oz Silver Maple coin 2013 - discount starting price (£15) (milk spots) - Free post. 1 week auction   
    1-3 days is more than enough depending on what it is, even 3 days can be a stretch. Things find their market value very fast 
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    PenguinUK got a reaction from Jay2 in 1oz Silver Maple coin 2013 - discount starting price (£15) (milk spots) - Free post. 1 week auction   
    Hi @Jay2
    my experience is very limited. but my auction seems to have worked out fine. I posted coin yesterday.
    I used template (made by site host ChrisSilver
    ) and then tweaked it slightly for my auction. Seems good.
    And you have to pick from selling to UK and/or other regions, and pick whether you are selling bullion or graded collectibles etc.
    If you have more specific questions I will try to help but you might be better asking a more experienced user.
    Good luck mate. regards, P
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    PenguinUK got a reaction from AOB in 1oz Silver Maple coin 2013 - discount starting price (£15) (milk spots) - Free post. 1 week auction   
    Auction seems to have petered out now, so I shall end it early ( and no-one has objected ).
    Auction will and at 5.59 pm today (Sunday)
    Regards,
    P
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    PenguinUK got a reaction from James32 in 1oz Silver Maple coin 2013 - discount starting price (£15) (milk spots) - Free post. 1 week auction   
    Hi everyone,
    Thanks for all your interest. Auction seems to have petered out now, so I am planning to end it early. Probably 5.59 pm Sunday.
    Please anyone who wants it to go to the end let me know.
    Cheers,
    P
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    PenguinUK got a reaction from James32 in 1oz Silver Maple coin 2013 - discount starting price (£15) (milk spots) - Free post. 1 week auction   
    Hi @Fenlander1, thank you for your question, due the the free postage at my personal cost and considering this is not an insured service, therefore all risk would then be on me as the seller, I have to decline with thanks. I can assure you I will post the coin unequivocally and if you want to upgrade to fully insured special delivery at cost to you, then I will certainly post first. Thank you for your bid.
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    PenguinUK got a reaction from Solachesis in 1oz Silver Maple coin 2013 - discount starting price (£15) (milk spots) - Free post. 1 week auction   
    Hi @Fenlander1, thank you for your question, due the the free postage at my personal cost and considering this is not an insured service, therefore all risk would then be on me as the seller, I have to decline with thanks. I can assure you I will post the coin unequivocally and if you want to upgrade to fully insured special delivery at cost to you, then I will certainly post first. Thank you for your bid.
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    PenguinUK got a reaction from Fenlander1 in 1oz Silver Maple coin 2013 - discount starting price (£15) (milk spots) - Free post. 1 week auction   
    Hi @Fenlander1, thank you for your question, due the the free postage at my personal cost and considering this is not an insured service, therefore all risk would then be on me as the seller, I have to decline with thanks. I can assure you I will post the coin unequivocally and if you want to upgrade to fully insured special delivery at cost to you, then I will certainly post first. Thank you for your bid.
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    PenguinUK reacted to GoldDiggerDave in 1oz Silver Maple coin 2013 - discount starting price (£15) (milk spots) - Free post. 1 week auction   
    Welcome aboard TSF.   The time IMO for 1 coin 7 days is a little on the long side. 
    Some flash auctions drop about 5pm and finish at 9pm and the do get loads of traffic.  Once you get a few people buying on your auctions you can tag them in at the start ie, @Darr3nG @James32 @Solachesis  @Fenlander1  @NGMD........Oh and if you get really desperate you can tag @HerefordBullyun 
    £15.50 and i'd have no issue if you reduced the auction time. 
     
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    PenguinUK reacted to TheShinyStuff in 1oz Silver Maple coin 2013 - discount starting price (£15) (milk spots) - Free post. 1 week auction   
    £21. As per @GoldDiggerDave above, I'd suggest editing your post and ending the auction at 9 or 10pm tonight. I'm sure no one would have an issue with that. Your coin will sell for the market value today, no need to go on for a week.
    Good luck.
     
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    PenguinUK got a reaction from CySterling in 1oz Silver Maple coin 2013 - discount starting price (£15) (milk spots) - Free post. 1 week auction   
    AUCTION  ( - 1 week )
    Item: 1oz Silver Maple ( Canada ) coin 2013
    Condition: Milk spotted/splodge - please see attached pictures.
    Starting Time and Date:  18:00  10/04/2023
    Starting Price:  £ 15
    Ending Time and Date:  17:59  16/04/2023. (ending early = Sunday)
    Note that The forum will automatically order posts based on who submitted first. Order on this thread is the order of bids. The thread posts contain timestamps and so the final bid during the final minute of the auction will be the winning bid (i.e. the auction ends at 9pm and there are three bids of £20, £22, and then £24 during 9pm and then a bid of £30 at 9.01pm, the winning bid would be the final highest bid during the time stamp of 9pm.)
    Set Increments:  50 pence minimum bid increments. Please state bid price in £ ££.PP format e.g. £ 16.50
    Winning Bidder: The winning bidder is the person who has made the highest bid at the point the auction closes. In the event that the highest bidder pulls out or reneges on their final bid, I will contact second place, third place etc. accordingly. 
    Item Location: Stockport area, England, United Kingdom
    Shipping:  ** Free Shipping **- Royal Mail second class large envelope ( uninsured ). Coin is in plastic pocket, and will be  cardboard etc protected within envelope. Personal collection at a local fast food restaurant also possible, please ask.
    Shipping destinations: United Kingdom only
    Payment Terms:  Bank Transfer only please. Bank details will be provided to item buyer/ auction winner
    Dispatch Time:  Within two days from receipt of payment.
    Please note - I am novice at trading here ( If this works it will be my first successful trade on TSF ). If I make mistakes in the process or something, please ( experienced ) members let me know or advise. Thank you all, PenguinUK.  (ebay PigeltUK)
    Photos: 


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    PenguinUK got a reaction from silvergaga in 1oz Silver Maple coin 2013 - discount starting price (£15) (milk spots) - Free post. 1 week auction   
    AUCTION  ( - 1 week )
    Item: 1oz Silver Maple ( Canada ) coin 2013
    Condition: Milk spotted/splodge - please see attached pictures.
    Starting Time and Date:  18:00  10/04/2023
    Starting Price:  £ 15
    Ending Time and Date:  17:59  16/04/2023. (ending early = Sunday)
    Note that The forum will automatically order posts based on who submitted first. Order on this thread is the order of bids. The thread posts contain timestamps and so the final bid during the final minute of the auction will be the winning bid (i.e. the auction ends at 9pm and there are three bids of £20, £22, and then £24 during 9pm and then a bid of £30 at 9.01pm, the winning bid would be the final highest bid during the time stamp of 9pm.)
    Set Increments:  50 pence minimum bid increments. Please state bid price in £ ££.PP format e.g. £ 16.50
    Winning Bidder: The winning bidder is the person who has made the highest bid at the point the auction closes. In the event that the highest bidder pulls out or reneges on their final bid, I will contact second place, third place etc. accordingly. 
    Item Location: Stockport area, England, United Kingdom
    Shipping:  ** Free Shipping **- Royal Mail second class large envelope ( uninsured ). Coin is in plastic pocket, and will be  cardboard etc protected within envelope. Personal collection at a local fast food restaurant also possible, please ask.
    Shipping destinations: United Kingdom only
    Payment Terms:  Bank Transfer only please. Bank details will be provided to item buyer/ auction winner
    Dispatch Time:  Within two days from receipt of payment.
    Please note - I am novice at trading here ( If this works it will be my first successful trade on TSF ). If I make mistakes in the process or something, please ( experienced ) members let me know or advise. Thank you all, PenguinUK.  (ebay PigeltUK)
    Photos: 


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    PenguinUK got a reaction from Becca in 1oz Silver Maple coin 2013 - discount starting price (£15) (milk spots) - Free post. 1 week auction   
    AUCTION  ( - 1 week )
    Item: 1oz Silver Maple ( Canada ) coin 2013
    Condition: Milk spotted/splodge - please see attached pictures.
    Starting Time and Date:  18:00  10/04/2023
    Starting Price:  £ 15
    Ending Time and Date:  17:59  16/04/2023. (ending early = Sunday)
    Note that The forum will automatically order posts based on who submitted first. Order on this thread is the order of bids. The thread posts contain timestamps and so the final bid during the final minute of the auction will be the winning bid (i.e. the auction ends at 9pm and there are three bids of £20, £22, and then £24 during 9pm and then a bid of £30 at 9.01pm, the winning bid would be the final highest bid during the time stamp of 9pm.)
    Set Increments:  50 pence minimum bid increments. Please state bid price in £ ££.PP format e.g. £ 16.50
    Winning Bidder: The winning bidder is the person who has made the highest bid at the point the auction closes. In the event that the highest bidder pulls out or reneges on their final bid, I will contact second place, third place etc. accordingly. 
    Item Location: Stockport area, England, United Kingdom
    Shipping:  ** Free Shipping **- Royal Mail second class large envelope ( uninsured ). Coin is in plastic pocket, and will be  cardboard etc protected within envelope. Personal collection at a local fast food restaurant also possible, please ask.
    Shipping destinations: United Kingdom only
    Payment Terms:  Bank Transfer only please. Bank details will be provided to item buyer/ auction winner
    Dispatch Time:  Within two days from receipt of payment.
    Please note - I am novice at trading here ( If this works it will be my first successful trade on TSF ). If I make mistakes in the process or something, please ( experienced ) members let me know or advise. Thank you all, PenguinUK.  (ebay PigeltUK)
    Photos: 


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    PenguinUK got a reaction from Griffo in Only special delivery covers bullion ( great tagline we all love to use )... unless there's an actual problem.   
    That anyone would have the nerve to behave with such arrogant contempt is incredible. I am always saying this nowadays but "This stupid country!"
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    PenguinUK got a reaction from James32 in Only special delivery covers bullion ( great tagline we all love to use )... unless there's an actual problem.   
    That anyone would have the nerve to behave with such arrogant contempt is incredible. I am always saying this nowadays but "This stupid country!"
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    PenguinUK reacted to BackyardBullion in Only special delivery covers bullion ( great tagline we all love to use )... unless there's an actual problem.   
    What you going to want to do is phone the customer service number, the regular one. Then you will need to ask whoever answers the call for a special investigation escalation. Don't take no for an answer and just keep saying I want to escalate this and eventually they will say somebody should call you back within 4 hours. That person is more likely to be able to actually help you than any customer service representative would. You probably quote your claim reference number as well to help speed things along.
    You could also have a quick Google and try and find the executives email addresses. They will hopefully reply but it's not guaranteed. But if you keep sending emails to them about this, hopefully somebody will get back to you.
    My situation was a little bit different because I saw on my tracking that they were removing my item from the network and we're going to dispose it but I caught it in time. I have never had to make a single claim for anything lost within special delivery so I can't speak from experience about whether or not precious metals are covered, but from my understanding they should be.
    Good luck and keep us all informed as to how you get on.
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    PenguinUK reacted to James32 in Only special delivery covers bullion ( great tagline we all love to use )... unless there's an actual problem.   
    Hi all, this is on behalf of another member whom I won't name, but I'm starting this thread in the hope it throws up some helpful advice for them, and quite frankly...as we are all on the proverbial hook.
    Will try and keep as short as possible, but basically he posted a gold coin by special delivery, well wrapped and protected, correct address, nothing obvious as to what was inside. This is a highly trusted member who has successfully traded multiple multiple thousands in bullion items. 
    The coin never arrived, the tracking never updated after a couple of days. We waited a couple of weeks in good faith/hope it would eventually arrive ( never did) the seller duly refunded full cost and started the claim process, all pretty straight forward although highly frustrating. 
    Another few weeks pass, and today the seller finally gets a response from the Royal mail, but not the kind of response he/i/any of us would be hoping for..
    Dear Mr xxxxxx
    Thanks for contacting royal mail regarding a special delivery item, reference #######
    ××× The item has been removed from the network because we believe it contains prohibited items. Royal mail is entitled to deal with prohibited items as we see fit, so it has been disposed of. For security reasons no further details are available. 
    Regards Mary Tilley, Royal mail××××
     
    This is the worst blanket statement I've read in my sheltered life, seriously 😐 is this the service we are paying for ? Can any postal worker's or even law professional offer tips on the member next step?
    Has any dealers on here even faced a similar situation and if so, did you reach a satisfactory outcome?!
    Thanks for reading and for any advice shared to help the member in question, but also us all moving forward. 
    If ive tagged you it's because I believe you may have a helpful input, thanks in advance. 
    @watchesandwhisky @pricha @arphethean @arshimo2012 @AndrewSL76 @Tn21 @DuncanWylieWilson @theman73 @modofantasma @richatthecroft @Paul
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    PenguinUK reacted to JamesH in Only special delivery covers bullion ( great tagline we all love to use )... unless there's an actual problem.   
    This is shocking. I naively assumed the special delivery status and value of protection paid for, meant the item was duly insured without question. This is really concerning. Good luck to the original seller to whom this impacted and thanks for sharing 👍🏼
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    PenguinUK reacted to James32 in Only special delivery covers bullion ( great tagline we all love to use )... unless there's an actual problem.   
    This part has always played on my mind, I'm glad you brought it up.
    So is 95% of the forum ( me included) buying from each other, technically regurgitating each others items over and over again at risk if the original invoice is long gone to recycling? Or would a declaration from the buyer/seller count 🤔 
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    PenguinUK reacted to LawrenceChard in another laughable seller   
    The seller will know all his stuff is fake, so there's no point messaging to tell him that. If anything message to ask if it is real genuine gold.
    It used to be possible to message buyers to alert them, but ebay stopped that because it was bad for business.
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    PenguinUK reacted to billysilver in Detailed Trading Guide - by billysilver   
    Detailed Trading Guide
     
    The following guide is provided as an example of how a trade between members may be conducted on The Silver Forum. The guide contains an outline of a trade and an example of how it may generally be conducted and includes some suggestions regarding best buying and selling practices and other information related to trading.
    This guide is primarily intended to help new members understand how to initiate and complete a purchase as a buyer from another member acting as seller in the Buy & Sell trade section of the forum. In addition it may also be referenced as a guide for a member conducting a sale.

    As a member you are limited to creating one trade listing every thirty days. If a member wishes to increase the number of sales listings they are permitted to create, you may upgrade to a Premium Membership here
    Upgrading to either a Silver, Gold, Platinum or Platinum PLUS Premium Membership provides a member with the ability to create unlimited trade listings and includes a whole host of other benefits such as access to premium trade listings three days earlier than all non-premium members. Premium listings are where the best deals are to be found. Purchasing a premium membership is a great way to support The Silver Forum. (Businesses need a Business Account available here)
    Before reading the information contained in this guide please make sure you have read and understand the Quickstart Guide:
    U.K Quickstart Guide
    U.S.A & Canada Quickstart Guide
    Please also ensure you have read and understand the forum rules, especially regarding trading and the risk of trading on The Silver Forum:
    Forum Rules
    Please pay attention to Section 7. Guidelines on Trading (Buying and Selling) and ensure you fully comprehend Section 7.4. Risk of Trading. It is essential that all new members read and understand this before trading on the forum.
    Disclaimer: The following applies to all Members/Sellers on the forum. Members trade at their own risk. The Silver Forum does not vet any members/sellers on the forum and neither the founder @ChrisSilver nor the forum is liable for any loss(es) that may result from trades. The founder @ChrisSilver and The Silver Forum also can not mediate any trades, this is between the two parties to discuss and resolve any issues that they might have.
     
     
    A quick summary of how a trade may be conducted on The Silver Forum

    1. A member acting as seller lists an item in the Buy & Sell trade section with a price, postage options and photos. Interested members leave a comment on the listing and then a private message will be generally initiated by The Seller. Some listings will state, comments have priority over pm's, which means comment first for a place in the queue and The Seller will then send you a private message.

    2. The terms of sale, total cost (item/s plus postage) and payment method will be discussed and agreed between The Buyer & The Seller via private message.

    3. The Buyer makes payment and provides name and address.

    4. The Seller confirms receipt of payment (best selling practice).

    5. The Seller dispatches item and provides verification (best selling practice).

    6. The Buyer receives item/s, fills bath with silver and/or gold and swims in their bullion like Scrooge McDuck.

    7. The Buyer notifies The Seller that item/items have been received (best buying practice).

    8. Members exchange trading feedback.

    9. Trade is complete.

    Please be aware that the steps provided are only a suggested example and it is entirely optional to follow them. The founder @ChrisSilver and The Silver Forum are not liable for the use or disuse of suggested guidance. Not all trades will be conducted in the exact manner as described in this guide but most will include similar steps in approximately the same order.
     
     
    Detailed Trading Guide

    1. Items listed by members on The Silver Forum can be found by clicking/hovering over the Buy & Sell tab and selecting the region or category relevant to you.

    2. If a region is selected you will be presented with two sub-categories separately listing items (Ungraded) & (Graded Only). Ungraded contains listings for bars, medals, coins (Bullion, BU, Proof, Ungraded) & other non graded precious metals. Graded contains listings for precious metal items that have been graded and slabbed.

    3. Now that you have selected Ungraded or Graded Only you will be presented with Page 1 of the trade listings for your selected sub-category. On the first page you will find pinned posts followed by all trade listings created by members of The Silver Forum.

    4. There are 5 types of Trade Listings: For Sale, For Exchange, For Sale or Exchange, For Auction, Wanted.

    If one of these tags is used on a listing by a top tier premium member, the tag will be followed with (by platinum member).

    A tag is required for any item listed. We will discuss For Auction & Wanted listings later but for now we will only be concerned with conducting a trade for items tagged For Sale, For Exchange and For Sale or Exchange.
    Listings tagged Completed, Withdrawn or Closed are no longer available. Please note that the Closed tag is only used when a topic is automatically closed or if it is manually closed by moderators and should not be used by members. Only use Completed and Withdrawn tags to end a listing you have created.

    5. Trades for all listings tagged For Sale, For Exchange and For Sale or Exchange may be conducted in the same way.
    Scroll through the listings until you find something you are interested in. Now that you have found a listing with an item/s that you would like to purchase you may wish to proceed as follows:
    Leave a comment on the listing, stating your interest in the item/s listed and await a response from the member acting as Seller. A seller may have multiple items available on one listing, mention which one/s you have an interest in.
    The seller will usually “like” your comment and/or send you a private message where the details and terms of the trade will be discussed. (The envelope icon at the top right of the page will display a notification if you have received a message)
    Both members will agree upon the terms of the trade which will include the postage choice, payment method and total cost. You may also wish to verify expected dispatch time and clarify the intended measures a member will use to ensure the item/s are well packaged and protected. It is a good idea to establish that the seller can provide proof of postage. When agreeing terms, before payment is made, clarify who is responsible for any loss incurred in the unfortunate and unlikely event that a package is not received.
    Once all terms have been agreed upon, the buyer will make payment to the member acting as seller. The seller will confirm the payment has been received. The buyer may wish to send a message to notify the seller that the payment has been sent. (A confirmation of payment is always to be expected from a seller)
    Once payment has been received the seller will pack and ship your item/s. It is best selling practice for a member acting as seller to send a photograph of the postage receipt following dispatch and/or tracking information. Some sellers may also even include a photo of the package pre-dispatch. It is a good idea to confirm with the seller before-hand when agreeing upon the terms of the trade that they will send a photo of the postage receipt once your package has been dispatched.
    Once you receive your item/s it is worth taking the time to notify the seller that the package has been received safely.
    Now that payment has been made and item/s are received, both the buyer and the seller may exchange trading feedback. It is important to leave trading feedback for each trade completed, especially if the seller has provided a good service. The feedback system helps to facilitate a degree of safety and trust for members when seeking to purchase items from another member. If a member has received several positive feedback comments it is an indicator of how safe trading with them will be.
    The trade is complete.
    Please be aware that the steps provided are only a suggested example and it is entirely optional to follow them. The founder @ChrisSilver and The Silver Forum are not liable for the use or disuse of suggested guidance. Not all trades will be conducted in the exact manner as described in this guide but most will include similar steps in approximately the same order.
    6. To leave Trading Feedback, click on a member’s user image to navigate to their profile page or click their name in a message thread.

    Click the Trading Feedback tab and click the Add Feedback button

    Select the role you adopted in the trade: The Buyer, The Seller or Trading.
    Select whether your feedback is Positive or Negative and leave a Comment.
    In the Topic field type the title of the trade listing that you interacted with to purchase, exchange or sell an item/s.

    7. If you wish to conduct your own trade in the manner described above, assuming the role of The Seller, click the Start New Topic button to create your own listing. Please note that as a standard member you may only create one trade listing every thirty days. If a member wishes to increase the number of sales listings they are permitted to create, you may upgrade to a premium membership here.

    8. Enter a name for your listing in the Title box, click the +Add Tag button in the Prefix box and choose For Sale, For Exchange, For Sale or Exchange.

    9. Enter a full & detailed description including photographs, condition & price. You can use the Trade Listing Template provided as a pinned post at the top of the trade listing pages to fill the description box. Simply replace the example information with your own.


    10. Wanted listings are created in the same manner as described above. When clicking the Start New Topic button you have the option to select the Wanted prefix. Choose a title for the item/s you are looking for, select the Wanted prefix and fill the description with information relevant to what you are seeking.

    11. For Auction is the final type of trade listing you may engage with or create. The information provided in the description of a For Auction listing is the same as any For Sale, For Exchange, For Sale or Exchange listing with the addition of auction terms, a start/end date & time and includes a starting bid instead of a total item/s cost. Some auctions may have a reserve. If you wish to start your own auction it is recommended that you use the auction template provided as a pinned post at the top of the trade listing pages.

     
    F.A.Q

    1. Can I pay by paypal, what payment methods are accepted?
    It depends on each individual seller and it is entirely the seller’s choice what methods of payment are accepted. Some members accept paypal friends & family payments. Paypal goods & services payments incur a fee for transactions, some may accept this method but will expect you to pay the fee. Some members may accept crypto payments. Most payments on The Silver Forum are made via bank transfer.
    2. Do I pay for postage?
    This is decided by the individual seller and the details will be described in the listing generally. If the listing says including postage then it’s included, the service for an included postage offer will be the seller’s choice. Most sellers do not include postage. Most listings will state the total cost of item/s plus postage of buyers choice and risk which is paid for by you the buyer. The service used is entirely your choice. If you use a postal service that is not insured you may be at risk of financial loss if the item is lost in transit.
    3. Can I Contact a member about a trade listing directly in private?
    Yes. If you are interested in an item/s listed in the Buy & Sell trade section you can contact a member directly via private message. Note that some listings will state that comments have priority over pm's, which means comment first for place in the queue and the seller will then send you a private message. On a listing with this term described it is best to follow the protocol if you want a chance to get the item/s.
    4. What happens if I do not receive an item I purchased from another member?
    In the unlikely and unfortunate event that an item purchased from another member is not received, the first steps to take will be to notify the member acting as seller and request a proof of postage if not already provided at the time of dispatch. If the member can demonstrate the item has been sent and it is clear that it has been lost in transit you could request that they communicate with the courier in order to identify if the package is lost or delayed. If it is lost then the seller will be able to claim a refund as long as the postage method chosen was insured and proof of postage retained. If the postage method chosen was not insured and the terms of the trade negotiated were that the buyer assumes all risk and liability if they choose a postal method that is not insured then your options will be limited. A seller may in this circumstance do all they can to aid you but they are under no obligation to do so, nor is the founder @ChrisSilver or The Silver Forum liable or responsible for item/s lost in transit. Ensure before any payment is made that it’s agreed that the seller can provide proof of postage to avoid issues if this situation were to arise.
    5. What does it mean when a listing says the postage is of buyer’s choice and risk?
    This means that if you the buyer choose the postal service and you choose a service that is not insured then the seller is not responsible for loss or damage. Ensure the terms agreed are clear before purchase is made. Although problems are unlikely, you may wish to choose an insured service if you wish to eliminate the possibility of an issue. Only you, the member acting as buyer are responsible for the choice made.
     
    A final note on Trust
    Making a bank transfer to someone who is essentially a stranger for an item/s unseen in person that one hopes will be shipped in good faith by an individual can be daunting in a world where we are used to ebay and paypal buyer protections and secure credit card transactions.
    As individual members of The Silver Forum we find ourselves relying on community reputation, trading feedback and our own powers of discernment.
    In my personal opinion @billysilver the manner in which trades are conducted on The Silver Forum is the best way to deal human to human, it is in accordance with our inherent nature. If trust can be developed and built between two humans trading, then that relationship can extend further.
    Building relationships based on trust is a valuable and rare thing but certainly needed in the world we find ourselves living in today. Trust is especially needed between humans in general to be healthy and happy. We are social animals and we need to be able to trust one another, we are afforded an opportunity to do so here.
    Reciprocal trust between humans is an incredibly powerful thing.
    You can verify any member’s trading sales feedback by clicking a member name and viewing their profile. You can click the trading feedback tab on a member’s profile in order to view feedback for previous trades, this is an important part of instilling confidence when potentially engaging in a trade.
    From a member’s profile you may also note the length of time a user has been active and you can view how many posts they have made and how many reputation points they have. Community Reputation points are built from members engaging a post made with a reaction(Like, Love etc).
    Membership tier (silver, gold, platinum, platinum plus) can also be a factor to consider alongside reputation and trust but it's not a definitive reason to trust someone, just indicates how much someone has invested financially into the community.
    Dependence on outside agents and financial protections are what we are used to generally as consumers, this dependence is not necessary.
    How your interaction with an individual feels must certainly be one of the most important factors to pay attention to when trading. You are a capable human with your own mind. Trust your gut. Use your own powers of discernment and enjoy your stay at The Silver Forum.
    Thank You
     
    Disclaimer: The following applies to all Members/Sellers on the forum. Members trade at their own risk. The Silver Forum does not vet any members/sellers on the forum and neither the founder @ChrisSilver nor the forum is liable for any loss(es) that may result from trades. The founder @ChrisSilver and The Silver Forum also can not mediate any trades, this is between the two parties to discuss and resolve any issues that they might have.
    All guidance contained within this document is suggested and is not mandatory instruction given by the founder @ChrisSilver or The Silver Forum.
     Neither the founder @ChrisSilver or The Silver Forum are responsible for suggested guidance followed or not followed based on information contained here in.
    Opinions expressed are the personal opinions of @billysilver
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    PenguinUK reacted to billysilver in Postage Advice for PM   
    Hi John,
    I've never known anyone to use anything other than Royal Mail for postage on the forum, I have neither sold using any other methods or purchased using any method other than RM.
    Note that only special delivery is fully insured for precious metals. Most people will be happy to assume the risk for one or two coins with Royal Mail signed for 1st or 2nd class. You're only obligated to make it clear in your listing, who assumes risk, what postage methods you are offering and who is paying for the postage.
    In the unlikely event of something getting lost after dispatch, if you've shipped via 1st or 2nd Class Signed For and it's been agreed at the time of the deal that you(the seller) assumes the risk, then you would be responsible for reimbursing the loss, most often times though, when 1st or 2nd class signed for postage is offered on a listing, it's stated that the buyer assumes the risk if they choose to accept such a means of postage, due to the fact that these services do not cover pm's, even though they are insured up to £50 and if the seller assumed the risk, theoretically, if the "tracking number" didn't update when received, an unscrupulous buyer could say they didn't receive the item and try and get the seller to refund them and the seller would be morally obliged to and would have no means of re-course with Royal Mail. I would be surprised to ever hear of such a thing occurring for two reasons though; 1. I've never had an item lost when selling or buying here and 2. Members here are not the type to behave in such a way as described in the former hypothetical.
    If you have access to a depot, you can send via Royal Mail Tracked 24 or 48, which is not a service available at The Post Office, once again though, these services are not insured for pm's, they are insured up to £100 for non pm's but one benefit of these services is they are fully tracked, unlike signed for, where the "tracking number" is updated upon receipt. This means a RM 24/48 item is not going to get lost.
    Regarding any option other than Special Delivery, in the event of a loss, you could attempt to claim the item is a collector's piece and you may get somewhere with that, I know I have read a thread that discussed this succeeding when a loss has occurred for them in the past but I'm pretty sure it wouldn't work on legal tender bullion, unless you got lucky.
    All being said, I don't know what fear-mongering dispatches was alluding to, I haven't seen terrestrial television for a long time, but as long as you are clear in the listing, who assumes risk and what services are available at the time of the deal and it is agreed between the two parties, you will be good to go.
    Check out my buying and selling guide, there may be some additional pointers that can help you when you decide to sell on the forum:
     
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    PenguinUK reacted to James32 in Shipping to Northern Ireland from the rest of the UK   
    I have been both sending from Northern Ireland and receiving to for nearly 5 years without one single problem 🙂
    Never tried ordering bullets mind you 😂
     
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    PenguinUK reacted to Ryan in Shipping to Northern Ireland from the rest of the UK   
    Your very welcome.
    Yes, I regularly receive gold as well from the mainland. No issues at all.
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