Shieldback desirable dates?

[TheGoldSovereign]

I've just picked up a few and wondering what dates are rare/desirable for 60s,70s,80s?

I'll take some more photos of what i bought when my new macro lens turns up, but what do they look like from this one shot in terms of grade?

[Clens92]

They all look very good.  It's difficult to say for each coin, but they look at least EF+.  Did you pay a large premium?

I'd suggest getting a UK Coin book - Rotographic Publications do a good price guide, which is widely accepted.  There are so many variations that a book is really essential, a lot of the time.

 

[HawkHybrid]

credit goes to the original poster of this link.

http://www.rotographic.com/CCGB2009FREE.pdf

 

the figures are dated but the premiums over similar coins when

checking for rarity should still be valid.

 

HH

 

 

[TheGoldSovereign]

41 minutes ago, Clens92 said:

They all look very good.  It's difficult to say for each coin, but they look at least EF+.  Did you pay a large premium?

I'd suggest getting a UK Coin book - Rotographic Publications do a good price guide, which is widely accepted.  There are so many variations that a book is really essential, a lot of the time.

 

Didn't pay much of a premium no, well maybe the current gold price helps with pushing that up but i think they were fair.

18 minutes ago, HawkHybrid said:

credit goes to the original poster of this link.

http://www.rotographic.com/CCGB2009FREE.pdf

 

the figures are dated but the premiums over similar coins when

checking for rarity should still be valid.

 

HH

 

 

nice link thanks, i check http://www.cruzis-coins.com/sovs/Sovmintage.html also but nice to see some more detail on variations etc, i know its not just about mintages

[TheGoldSovereign]

@sovereignsteve if you could buy any dates 51-86 what would you opt for? Say pick 5

[sovereignsteve]

2 hours ago, sg86 said:

@sovereignsteve if you could buy any dates 51-86 what would you opt for? Say pick 5

LOL nice way to get me to comment on this thread

I hadn't as the information is easily obtained by buying a book or looking on t'internet.

Impossible question though as there are many rare date variations I don't have that I would buy if I had the chance at a reasonable price.

The obvious rarities though are: 1859 Ansell, 1863 "827", 1874L, 1886M, 1887M and perhaps 1880M

One to watch out for is the 1883M which Marsh has as R2 and Spink can't make up their mind about. You see it very rarely for sale but luckily I have one in EF condition

 

[TheGoldSovereign]

4 hours ago, sovereignsteve said:

LOL nice way to get me to comment on this thread

I hadn't as the information is easily obtained by buying a book or looking on t'internet.

Impossible question though as there are many rare date variations I don't have that I would buy if I had the chance at a reasonable price.

The obvious rarities though are: 1859 Ansell, 1863 "827", 1874L, 1886M, 1887M and perhaps 1880M

One to watch out for is the 1883M which Marsh has as R2 and Spink can't make up their mind about. You see it very rarely for sale but luckily I have one in EF condition

 

Yea sorry maybe i was being lazy but i read that book linked here and some other sources but didn't really gauge rarity from them to be honest, needs someone with experience hence the highlight

Why are the M rarer, mintages are higher than S?

[HawkHybrid]

official mintages are combined mintages of both shield and

george & dragon designs. sometimes this can mean that

one design is a lot scarcer than its mintage would suggest.

 

HH

[TheGoldSovereign]

Thanks @HawkHybrid, i guess someone knows the split mintages then. I had a look for a marsh book, just trying to find a deal on it

I'm paying around 260 each, seems like a fair price? I know its all dependant on condition, i'll put up some pics next week when i receive them and my new lens to see if it was a good deal or not!

[Agpanda]

Is 265£ a fair price for this sheild?

http://www.tradera.com/item/220211/261216082/england-shield-sovereign-1871

[HelpingHands]

17 minutes ago, Bosse68 said:

Is 265£ a fair price for this sheild?

http://www.tradera.com/item/220211/261216082/england-shield-sovereign-1871

I'd say so based on it being about 10% over spot.

If somebody paid the HGM 15% over and got that then I think they'd be fairly happy.

[TheGoldSovereign]

1 hour ago, Bosse68 said:

Is 265£ a fair price for this sheild?

http://www.tradera.com/item/220211/261216082/england-shield-sovereign-1871

Looks good or better than the ones i am getting. Is that posted?

[Agpanda]

1 minute ago, sg86 said:

Looks good or better than the ones i am getting. Is that posted?

No, it is ~6£ shipping within Sweden on top of the 265£

So total will be 271£ or 3120:-Sek

[TheGoldSovereign]

5 minutes ago, Bosse68 said:

No, it is ~6£ shipping within Sweden on top of the 265£

So total will be 271£ or 3120:-Sek

seems to be around the price they are selling for over here, about 275-85 seems average on ebay at the moment, depends on the time of day when auctions finish

[TheGoldSovereign]

On 29/07/2016 at 13:07, Clens92 said:

They all look very good.  It's difficult to say for each coin, but they look at least EF+.  Did you pay a large premium?

I'd suggest getting a UK Coin book - Rotographic Publications do a good price guide, which is widely accepted.  There are so many variations that a book is really essential, a lot of the time.

 

Looking at the EF prices on various sources i don't think my coins are EF, maybe its just my great amateur photography?  

[Kman]

Some really awful ones all sold for £260+ today on Ebay this morning, example one

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1847-Queen-Victoria-full-sovereign-/162148825250?hash=item25c0d2b8a2:g:o5oAAOSwENxXlzqJ

I suppose it's only a little more than a normal sovereign atm though so

[TheGoldSovereign]

Well that makes me feel good, i have another 10 on the way, bit of a large outlay but hey ho. Fingers crossed.

[Murph]

It's not often you see any going for below £260 on ebay lately.  Lots of mediocre ones around £280+ with postage and even above £300. 

It's been about a month since I last got one for much below £260 with postage.  US gold also seems overpriced on ebay.

[Murph]

On 31 July 2016 at 15:42, sg86 said:

Thanks @HawkHybrid, i guess someone knows the split mintages then. I had a look for a marsh book, just trying to find a deal on it

I'm paying around 260 each, seems like a fair price? I know its all dependant on condition, i'll put up some pics next week when i receive them and my new lens to see if it was a good deal or not!

Given that dealers are selling them at just over 3k for 10 with some ef or just under £2.8k for 10 vf I think you've got a very good deal.  If you end up with doubles I'm sure some of us might take them off your hands letting you buy even more.

[sovereignsteve]

On 31 July 2016 at 15:42, sg86 said:

Thanks @HawkHybrid, i guess someone knows the split mintages then. I had a look for a marsh book, just trying to find a deal on it

I'm paying around 260 each, seems like a fair price? I know its all dependant on condition, i'll put up some pics next week when i receive them and my new lens to see if it was a good deal or not!

as far as I'm aware, noboy knows the split mintages. Marsh doesn't specify them.

£260 is very good at the moment unless they are real dogs.