premium coins that are good value now and future

[motorbikez]

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/AUSTRALIA-SYDNEY-2000-OLYMPIC-16-COIN-5-999-SILVER-PROOF-SET-complete-/161454046751?pt=UK_Coins_World_RL&hash=item2597693e1f

 

Enough to make you drool and not a bad price looking at the prices you quote 

 

By our price standards that is reasonable value, if you could get that set for around the £520 mark you would not regret it, the case is worth £40-£50.If you are in no hurry though the singles do come up on ebay here and in Europe from time to time and rarely make over £30.

The key coins are kangaroo,platypus,,lizard and shark.All the animals in the series seem to command more than the rest of the set.

[Shamatti]

dipped my toe into uncharted terrirtory this week and bought a 2 oz lunar horse for £35.01 could i ask members please on their thoughts on what would be a sort of safe bet coin where by you pay a little higher premium , but in a way you lock in that extra  premium by reselling some years later

 

i sometimes struggle with the panda pheonominum  

 

i understand the brits but canrt quite comprehend why they cost more on older years when they were i believe 925 silver

 

the special rounds like freedom girl zombucks, i think are for the purists or collectors

 

so i suppose that leaves the rm lunar series, and the  lunar australia mint coins

 

i am no expert in silver coins , so could i please ask what coins or series represents good value(although theyre slightly higher than other coins) 

but in the near future youre not going to lose , should you choose to sell privatley or through a forum 

regards craig

 

 

I like the 2 ounce horse. Actually I quite like all 2 ounce coins!

 

To answer your question - go for stuff people will always want. Perth Mint Cooks and Koalas, lunars - people are always starting new collections and looking for older coins to add to a date run. It will be the same in 5 or 10 years time, so these will still be collectable.

 

I also like the new luners from the Royal Mint. The horse wo beautiful, the goat a bit ugly, but who knows. I have both of these coins, wish I had more of each, I think they will do well as the years go on and more people come across the series and decide to collect it.

 

Pandas have always done well. Probably always will.

 

Don't pass up on the specialist coins. BUT!! They are a gamble, Either they will become highly collectable due to rarity and reputation, or they will be forgotten once all the coins have been issued and the next big thing comes along. Pick wisely. My money is usually on the wrong thing, but I love the SGB Series of Decent. They probably won't do well, bu they are gorgeous coins, so will always be worth more than spot. I think there will always be a good second hand market for them, but I don' think they will rocket in price. Who knows.

[Danny-boy]

Have a look at the Sydney 2000 Olympic proofs, beautiful coins,they usually make £25-£40 on ebay some of the buy it nows are a bit OTT but people have been buying them.

The total mintage for each coin is 100,000 and they sold as singles and in various sets. If you buy any it doesn't matter if they have case or certs they still make the same money. There are 16 in the set & they were minted jointly between Perth mint and RAM

MB, do me a favour - stop posting things like this up please.

I just bought my first coin of this set, and now looking for more!!!

You are a bad man.

[motorbikez]

Nice arn't they Danny.

 

This was a cracking buy for someone and I did post it up on the ebay 24hrs thread

 

http://www.ebay.co.u...=item4189412d5f

[Danny-boy]

It was a great buy MB.

This may sound like rubbish, but I assure you it's not.

When you posted it up, I decided I liked the Sharks best. I said to myself that if a shark came up in the UK for a reasonable price, I'd buy it.

Lo and behold, the first one listed is the shark!!!!!

[Kman]

I'm going to get a proof 1989, 2002, 2005 sovereign, maybe also a 2012

 

I think they will hold their value, all though they're already quite expensive now, these are Ebay prices

 

1989 £750+

 

2002 £300+

 

2005 £270 ish

 

2012 - can't even see a full one sold on ebay, the proof only had a mintage of 5500, pretty rare for future sovereign collectors!. 

[Danny-boy]

Have a look at the Sydney 2000 Olympic proofs, beautiful coins,they usually make £25-£40 on ebay some of the buy it nows are a bit OTT but people have been buying them.

The total mintage for each coin is 100,000 and they sold as singles and in various sets. If you buy any it doesn't matter if they have case or certs they still make the same money. There are 16 in the set & they were minted jointly between Perth mint and RAM

I have got 5 of these now, lovely coins.

Let's see if any more come up at a reasonable price.

[motorbikez]

Danny have a look at the 1oz & 2oz kook proofs they are reasonable value at the moment apart from 2000 onwards.

[garthy]

Danny have a look at the 1oz kook proofs they are reasonable value at the moment apart from 2000 onwards.

 

MB after I read this post I went and had a nose on ebay and found a coin I've been after for ages but could never find it at a decent price, the 2009 proof kook with 2008 design, limited to 10,000 I believe. The 2008 is my favourite so here's another to add to my collection, there's more if anyone's interested.  

 

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2009-AUSTRALIA-SILVER-1oz-KOOKABURRA-ADMIRING-SPIDERS-WEB-PROOF-IN-CAPSULE-/151463375422?pt=UK_Coins_World_RL&hash=item2343ebb23e

[HelpingHands]

Garthy, I think it's BU and been called a proof by the seller as it's shiny.

Whether it's still a good price I do not know. It'd be a good price if it was 2008 I think.

[garthy]

Garthy, I think it's BU and been called a proof by the seller as it's shiny.

Whether it's still a good price I do not know. It'd be a good price if it was 2008 I think.

 

I believe these are from the 20th edition series, I've been looking for it for a while, I think you may be right just a BU but I don't mind I've been hunting it down for a while now to go with the other 2008 kooks I have. 

[Pete]

Just found this on eBay and very surprised that the seller expects such a price.

I have to assume the watchers are as curious as me.

 

 

[HelpingHands]

Maybe it is delivered in a limo.

[Agpanda]

what gets my attention is that he sold 3 already

[Paul]

Just found this on eBay and very surprised that the seller expects such a price.

I have to assume the watchers are as curious as me.

 

 

the previous x3 sales were :

 

16-Jul-13 12:56:28 BST

29-Aug-12 14:40:44 BST

12-Nov-11 12:05:01 GMT

 

x3 sales in over 3+ years

So they aren't exactly flying out of the door at this price

[Danny-boy]

MB after I read this post I went and had a nose on ebay and found a coin I've been after for ages but could never find it at a decent price, the 2009 proof kook with 2008 design, limited to 10,000 I believe. The 2008 is my favourite so here's another to add to my collection, there's more if anyone's interested.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2009-AUSTRALIA-SILVER-1oz-KOOKABURRA-ADMIRING-SPIDERS-WEB-PROOF-IN-CAPSULE-/151463375422?pt=UK_Coins_World_RL&hash=item2343ebb23e

I have a full date run of kooks, so I guess this BU kinda completes the set.

Be interested in more info though, I doubt it's only from sets if he has 7 of them.

[Danny-boy]

Danny have a look at the 1oz & 2oz kook proofs they are reasonable value at the moment apart from 2000 onwards.

Cheers MB, I'll take a look. Assume eBay is the place?

Your reasonable and mine may be very different, ha ha. That's why I'm without a 2oz mouse [emoji1]

[Danny-boy]

MB after I read this post I went and had a nose on ebay and found a coin I've been after for ages but could never find it at a decent price, the 2009 proof kook with 2008 design, limited to 10,000 I believe. The 2008 is my favourite so here's another to add to my collection, there's more if anyone's interested.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2009-AUSTRALIA-SILVER-1oz-KOOKABURRA-ADMIRING-SPIDERS-WEB-PROOF-IN-CAPSULE-/151463375422?pt=UK_Coins_World_RL&hash=item2343ebb23e

Mintage of 8598 apparently, and as you quite correctly say, part of a set. Apparently they were available as individuals, but not sure if that's correct.

[motorbikez]

MB after I read this post I went and had a nose on ebay and found a coin I've been after for ages but could never find it at a decent price, the 2009 proof kook with 2008 design, limited to 10,000 I believe. The 2008 is my favourite so here's another to add to my collection, there's more if anyone's interested.  

 

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2009-AUSTRALIA-SILVER-1oz-KOOKABURRA-ADMIRING-SPIDERS-WEB-PROOF-IN-CAPSULE-/151463375422?pt=UK_Coins_World_RL&hash=item2343ebb23e

 

Hi Garthy that is a Bu coin matey the 1oz proofs finished in 2005,still a nice coin though.

[motorbikez]

Cheers MB, I'll take a look. Assume eBay is the place?

Your reasonable and mine may be very different, ha ha. That's why I'm without a 2oz mouse [emoji1]

 

 yes ebay is your best bet.

[Pirocco]

There is little to nothing that is good value now and in the future (read: always).

Things, human preferences and value attachments can and do change over time, for various reasons and combinations of reasons.

Premiums origin from a number of elements. One is mintage, another is what could be named as 'class', yet another element is the brand.

The second (class) adds something like 'amount mintages' to 'mintage'. If one invents a new coin design, and limits mintage M for year Y, then at that moment there is just one member of the class, which tends to increase its value attachment. But after a decade, the class has 10 of those limited runs, and this tends to decrease its value attachment.

The third (brand) adds the element of its producer. An example of this is the Norfed dollar. The brand has a special unique story behind it, and this greatly added to its value attachment. This element is hard to predict.

I try to chose and buy premium coins based on as much of these elements as possible. For example, I chosed to buy some SBSS and older former Mulligan Mint rounds. The mint company has an ugly story end, but ideas are immortal and I like those ideas (in general a 'screw government and their banks'), and I think alot stackers like them. Another element I chosed is the one of popular subjects. Some animals are more popular than others, and not just among silver stackers, but in general. Cats, horses, rabbits, are more liked. One can verify that in second hand shops: things with these animals as subject are sold much quicker and (and despite) the sellers tend to put higher prices.

The most dangerous premium killers are the designs that are mostly bought in a hype run by speculators that just want to frontrun real collectors, at first warping up the price quickly. By the time (and also if) those real collectors wanna buy, the premium became so big that they pass. Sometimes there is even just a lack of those real collectors. In short: a bubble-premium.

There are many things from the past. Some got their value greatly increased, others were forgotten. Sometimes forgotten ones get a value revival (maybe after enough people dumped them as waste).

So this topics question asks for future answers that do not exist at present time, they have yet to be decided, with the decision-makers themselves also altering the answer.

One can only pick a few elements that showed some reliability (alike that animal popularity), and leave the rest to be answered later. A silver coin with a playboy bunny on it may be sold to a silver stacker that is also a playboy fan, but also to a playboy fan that is not a silver stacker, if you get what I mean.

[garthy]

Mintage of 8598 apparently, and as you quite correctly say, part of a set. Apparently they were available as individuals, but not sure if that's correct.

I've just been doing a bit of research this morning and it seems these were only part of the 20th anniversary set, people have found by selling the kooks individually they can get a better price than the set as a whole, I guess like me people like to collect a design in every form possible.

Also like MB and HH said this set wasn't proof just BU.

[Danny-boy]

I've just been doing a bit of research this morning and it seems these were only part of the 20th anniversary set, people have found by selling the kooks individually they can get a better price than the set as a whole, I guess like me people like to collect a design in every form possible.

Also like MB and HH said this set wasn't proof just BU.

The only thing that puts me off slightly is this Garthy, that means all the other years are available with the 2009 date too. It's like starting a whole new collection.

Chards has the full set for about £500.

[motorbikez]

I've just been doing a bit of research this morning and it seems these were only part of the 20th anniversary set, people have found by selling the kooks individually they can get a better price than the set as a whole, I guess like me people like to collect a design in every form possible.

Also like MB and HH said this set wasn't proof just BU.

 

Hi Garthy the mintage for the 2009 Bu kook is 300,000,you can put a set together yourself like Danny did without buying the Perth mint set.

[Agpanda]

Here is the goldset

 

http://www.coins-auctioned.com/auctions/20th-edition-australian-kookaburra-gold-proof-set-2009-4447