Interesting Overdate on 1843 Sovereign -

[ChardsCoinandBullionDealer]

Hmm, here's an interesting conundrum. We're in the process of adding an unusual sovereign on to the website - and we have quite a few opinions in the office as to whether it is 3 over 2, a 3 over 8 or is it a rotated 2 under the 3? Or something else? We'd be interested in your thoughts - the fourth photo is a macro of the overdate. https://www.chards.co.uk/1843-overdate-gold-sovereign-vic-young-head-shield-london/4457

[Sovsaver]

Initially thinking rotated 2 under 3

[greendragon]

hmmmm.  is it possible it is over a rotated 3 ?

[Bullionbilly]

Just chuck it in with the bullion and avoid confusion 

[Pipers]

Myself I would go for a 3 over a 2

 

[sovereignsteve]

Difficult to see from the magnified image. Really need a blow up of the date so that the whole of the 3 can be seen in one image, the bigger and hi-res the better

I also find it useful to take photos of the overdate from various angles to the side to see better the layering of the numbers.

[baurum]

Here is a good one from Chard’s Flickr acount.

[ChardsCoinandBullionDealer]

13 hours ago, Bullionbilly said:

Just chuck it in with the bullion and avoid confusion 

Cheeky

[ChardsCoinandBullionDealer]

11 hours ago, sovereignsteve said:

Difficult to see from the magnified image. Really need a blow up of the date so that the whole of the 3 can be seen in one image, the bigger and hi-res the better

I also find it useful to take photos of the overdate from various angles to the side to see better the layering of the numbers.

Good point, our photographer has started doing this too, a work in progress.

[sovereignsteve]

4 minutes ago, ChardLizzie said:

Good point, our photographer has started doing this too, a work in progress.

Difficut to see what's going on under there. Doesn't help that the top 3 is so worn down. Wouldn't suprise me to learn that the engraver had a couple of abortive attempts at it!

[ChardsCoinandBullionDealer]

We're raiding Lawrence's stash of interesting overdates/errors - lots more to come. 

[sovereignsteve]

4 minutes ago, ChardLizzie said:

We're raiding Lawrence's stash of interesting overdates/errors - lots more to come. 

Exciting

and he's letting you sell them?

[ChardsCoinandBullionDealer]

1 minute ago, sovereignsteve said:

Exciting

and he's letting you sell them?

Wow, that 1843 overdate sold quickly - if it was one of the silverforum they've had a good buy, it was priced down instead of up last night.

 

[Cornishfarmer]

What did it sell for?

[ChardsCoinandBullionDealer]

6 minutes ago, Cornishfarmer said:

What did it sell for?

£800!

[kimchi]

1 minute ago, ChardLizzie said:

£800!

With a free stick of rock?

[ChardsCoinandBullionDealer]

1 minute ago, kimchi said:

With a free stick of rock?

It's going to the USA - can you imagine customs with the Blackpool rock 

 

[kimchi]

6 minutes ago, ChardLizzie said:

It's going to the USA - can you imagine customs with the Blackpool rock 

 

It's easy - just write 'DANGER - AVOID HIGH TEMPERATURE!' on the package.

No-one likes their rock to go limp

[SovTracker]

Hi Lizzie.

Well I blew it up - the number not the Rock, then I changed the colour several times to get a better aspect and I have it as a plain original rotated 3 over 3. The latter struck 3 is more worn on the top left but the original 3 is left intact being protected by the final strike.

Also the "bulge" mid RHS looks like the top RHS of the original rotated 3 - if that makes sense.

I must say at £800 someone has overpaid in my book unless they know better about what's going on with the coin? But there again its probably upped the value on mine!

I note that the I in Britanniarum is not the usual looking reversed 1. But it has the "Broken Foot" on the first N as normal - odd.

I've attached a "normal" 1843 for comparison.

[TheGoldSovereign]

Must say that's an expensive coin for it's condition!

[Xander]

Hope they don't have Specsavers in the USA.

[greendragon]

1 hour ago, SovTracker said:

it as a plain original rotated 3 over 3.

i guessed right!

do i get some rock?

 

 

[SovTracker]

i guessed right!
do i get some rock?[emoji3]
 
 

Rock on Tommy!! That's all you get!!