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To my thinking, it's not really acceptable to make people wait so long for a flagship coin that a lot of people would have been looking forward to. But, that is unfortunately the case with these memorial sovereigns. On here when there was a leaked photo posted nearly everyone loved it, I still do think the coin looks amazing. I've maxed out every penny on my RM account to get these coins and sets, but I do think the price is quite high, and it is hard to justify that, so I will just wait until the coins finally do arrive and make my mind up then, can always send it back if I don't like it. 

No idea why that would be...

It'll be interesting to see if Brian Jones is on it (I'd be surprised if Jagger would allow it).
Absolutely there will be imvho! Pink Floyd too. They need to reinvigorate a waning series, and surely The Beatles have been the 'main attraction' everyone expected for the start!

To be fair if you look at the state of Mick Jagger, would anyone buy it if he was identifiable on the coin?

I would really like to know what you are drinking tonight… (or a smoking)! 🤪

From left to right it looks like St George is trying to reign the horse back a bit, fails, and then, when it finally does stop, cracks his nut into the back of he 'orses 'ead

From left to right it looks like St George is trying to reign the horse back a bit, fails, and then, when it finally does stop, cracks his nut into the back of he 'orses 'ead

I have literally, just completed a full Gillick set (10), having bought all of them from TSF members in the last 14 days. Six in hand, and four to be posted after the RM strike is over. Cost? Under £3800…Quality..make your own judgement.

Free plug to the sellers here @1stsovereign@brnlx639…and when he eventually limps to the Post Office @augur
Mission completed:-

A saving of over £2700 compared to The Royal Mint!….but no box😢
 
 
 

I shall have to think about that for a moment...it could be rather too pedantic, even for our forum's own @LawrenceChard!
OK...I have thought about it enough in that split-second - it's definitely not! 🤣
When is our favourite budgie-smuggling skier due back? I would like to ask him about his company's page (article/guide) saying that dealers pay The Royal Mint 3% of spot for gold bullion coins. I am willing to offer him a lot more, so easy profit for him and a great deal for me!!!

If you did want a gram panda @Solachesis I can sort you out for £60 plus post 

Received an absolute haul of silver gifts from @Petra
What a treat and thank you very much!
Also thank you @trp for putting this together.

All I will say is, we were never seen in the same room at the same time. Make of that what you will....
 
That's a topic I save for my other 'special interest' forum

Thanks Lawrence,
She is beautiful and I think I would need at least a kilo of gold!
I would still like a silver 1 kilo coin in exchange for cash only!
Regards
Frank
 

He had a wife you know. You know what she is called? Incontinentia, incontinentia buttocks.
 

Thank you for sharing, @LawrenceChard.
There are only 4 similar coins in the world, 2 of them in museums (England and Romania) and another two apparently in private collections.
All of them been discovered in the same thesaurus in 1713 in Transylvania.
The coin exposed in Brukenthal Museum Sibiu is very high purity, very close to 24k, weighting 9.4g.

 

This story was in the DailyTelegraph today. I recently visited Romania including Transylvania. I found I could understand the locals English much better than I have ever managed in Glasgow.

Gold Coin Proves 'Fake' Roman Emperor was Real - Ancient News
Until today, I had never heard of a Roman Emperor called Sponsian, so was surprised to read "news" about him.
https://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-63636641

The face of Sponsian the first, who was purged from history by experts in the nineteenth century. Researchers have now established that he was a lost Roman emperor.
By Pallab Ghosh
Science correspondent
An ancient gold coin proves that a third century Roman emperor written out of history as a fictional character really did exist, scientists say.
The coin bearing the name of Sponsian and his portrait was found more than 300 years ago in Transylvania, once a far-flung outpost of the Roman empire.
Believed to be a fake, it had been locked away in a museum cupboard.
Now scientists say scratch marks visible under a microscope prove that it was in circulation 2,000 years ago.
Prof Paul Pearson University College London, who led the research, told BBC News that he was astonished by the discovery.
"What we have found is an emperor. He was a figure thought to have been a fake and written off by the experts.
"But we think he was real and that he had a role in history."
The ruins of the Roman fort which was headquarters of the Roman military in Transylvania from where Sponsian ruled. The coin at the centre of the story was among a small hoard discovered in 1713. It was thought to have been a genuine Roman coin until the mid-19th century, when experts suspected that they might have been produced by forgers of the time, because of their crude design.
The final blow came in 1863 when Henry Cohen, the leading coin expert of the time at the Bibliothèque Nationale de France, considered the problem for his great catalogue of Roman coins. He said that they were not only 'modern' fakes, but poorly made and "ridiculously imagined". Other specialists agreed and to this day Sponsian has been dismissed in scholarly catalogues.
But Prof Pearson suspected otherwise when he saw photographs of the coin while researching for a book about the history of the Roman empire. He could make out scratches on its surface that he thought might have been produced by the coin being in circulation.
He contacted the Hunterian Museum at Glasgow University where the coin had been kept locked away in a cupboard along with three others from the original hoard, and asked if he could work with the researchers there.
They examined all four coins under a powerful microscope and confirmed in the journal, PLOS 1, that there really were scratches, and the patterns were consistent with them being jingled around in purses.
A chemical analysis also showed that the coins had been buried in soil for hundreds of years, according to Jesper Ericsson, who is the museum's curator of coins and worked with Prof Pearson on the project.   Under a powerful microscope, researchers saw scratch marks caused by the coins being in circulation
The researchers now have to answer the question, who was Sponsian?
The researchers believe that he was a military commander who was forced to crown himself as emperor of the most distant and difficult to defend province of the Roman empire, called Dacia.
Archaeological studies have established that Dacia was cut off from the rest of the Roman empire in around 260 AD. There was a pandemic, civil war and the empire was fragmenting.
Surrounded by enemies and cut off from Rome, Sponsian likely assumed supreme command during a period of chaos and civil war, protecting the military and civilian population of Dacia until order was restored, and the province evacuated between 271 AD and 275 AD, according to Jesper Ericsson.
"Our interpretation is that he was in charge to maintain control of the military and of the civilian population because they were surrounded and completely cut off," he said. "In order to create a functioning economy in the province they decided to mint their own coins."
This theory would explain why the coins are unlike those from Rome.
"They may not have known who the actual emperor was because there was civil war," says Prof Pearson.
"But what they needed was a supreme military commander in the absence of real power from Rome. He took command at a period when command was needed."
Once the researchers had established that the coins were authentic, and that they had discovered what they believed to be a lost Roman emperor, they alerted researchers at the Brukenthal Museum in Sibiu in Transylvania, which also has a Sponsian coin. It was part of the bequest of Baron Samuel von Brukenthal, the Habsburg Governor of Transylvania. The Baron was studying the coin at the time of his death and the story goes that the last thing he did was to write a note saying "genuine".
The coin was locked away in a cupboard at the Hunterian Museum because it was thought to have been a fake
The specialists at the Brukenthal museum had classified their coin as an historic fake, as had everyone else. But they changed their minds when they saw the UK research.
The discovery is of particular interest for the history of Transylvania and Romania, according to the interim manager of the Brukenthal National Museum, Alexandru Constantin Chituță.
"For the history of Transylvania and Romania in particular, but also for the history of Europe in general, if these results are accepted by the scientific community, they will mean the addition of another important historical figure in our history," he said.
The coins are on display at the Hunterian Museum in Glasgow.
I was thinking I need to undertake a trip to Transylvania, which left me wondering about the language barrier, now it seems like a rather more mundane trip to Glasgow, which may or may not make much difference to the language problem.
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Wow, another commemorative coin series! When does 'new coin fatigue' set in?
How does this year compare to other years for commemorative coin launches? There's obviously going to be a few extra with the 'changing of the guard' but it seems never ending!
Also wonder what might cause bottle necks for the mint? Making dies? machine set up time between short runs? materials? despatch? Hope they can deliver in reasonable timeframe...

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There's too much detail for my liking. I prefer the 2022 sovereign 

Ye gads, that's busy indeed

Look at the rims on that...

It's just a good thing they have such a perfect record with frosting...

It's just a good thing they have such a perfect record with frosting...