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20 hours ago, Marc said:

Who gives a C##P. If your trying to wind me up, don't bother. Getting a bit tired of your senseless retorts. 

Calm down man. I don't know you or care, why would I be trying to wind you up? :rolleyes:

I originally commented on @Numistacker 's post and didn't ask for a reply from your good self, but as you did....

I was actually suggesting and maybe I should have come right out and said it. Looking at the photos that Russell posted, it looks overgraded IMO. My eyes are drawn straight to the flat spots on George and the horse's heads.

Now having seen the pre-cleaning photos, these flat spots don't look as bad.

Maybe it's just the quality of the photos as the coin looks very washed out in the after shots. It actually does look cleaned with all the patina and luster removed.
I would be interested to know if it really does look like this in hand or is it just the photos misrepresenting it? It does look a bit too light in colour as well.

I actually prefer the coin before it was cleaned.

I think a little experiment might be illuminating. Have a coin like this "conserved" at NGC, break it out and then submit it for grading. I wonder if it would receive a "cleaned" details slab?

If you wish to answer my points in a constructive manner, as I find this conservation issue interesting, please do. Otherwise, a reply is not necessary, I won't comment again.

 

 

Edited by sovereignsteve

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24 minutes ago, sovereignsteve said:

Calm down man. I don't know you or care, why would I be trying to wind you up? :rolleyes:

I originally commented on @Numistacker 's post and didn't ask for a reply from your good self, but as you did....

I was actually suggesting and maybe I should have come right out and said it. Looking at the photos that Russell posted, it looks overgraded IMO. My eyes are drawn straight to the flat spots on George and the horse's heads.

Now having seen the pre-cleaning photos, these flat spots don't look as bad.

Maybe it's just the quality of the photos as the coin looks very washed out in the after shots. It actually does look cleaned with all the patina and luster removed.
I would be interested to know if it really does look like this in hand or is it just the photos misrepresenting it? It does look a bit too light in colour as well.

I actually prefer the coin before it was cleaned.

I think a little experiment might be illuminating. Have a coin like this "conserved" at NGC, break it out and then submit it for grading. I wonder if it would receive a "cleaned" details slab?

If you wish to answer my points in a constructive manner, as I find this conservation issue interesting, please do. Otherwise, a reply is not necessary, I won't comment again.

 

 

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after restoration pics. The coin was 61 going into conservation and came out a 61 as well. 

 When I thought saw it I thought there was a amight lack of reverse detail so compared it against a PCGS 62 

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top of the helmet is identical.

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it is a great and rare coin. Should get it back from NGC in the next week.

 

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1 hour ago, Numistacker said:

after restoration pics. The coin was 61 going into conservation and came out a 61 as well. 

 When I thought saw it I thought there was a amight lack of reverse detail so compared it against a PCGS 62

it is a great and rare coin. Should get it back from NGC in the next week.

Thanks for the reply Russell. I think the helmet is a lot worse but as you know, these things are just people's opinions and in this case, mine doesn't matter.

It is indeed a very rare coin and in a good grade. I wish you the best of luck with it.

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I was thinking of sending a message to Numi but this may be a general interest question. 

In my last submission I included a silver medal. I was wondering which medals are graded from NGC and which aren't.  Is there a certain set of criteria? The census didn't help me much to understand. 

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All sovereigns are being sent to NGC for grading.

The NGC invoice numbers are allocated as follows:

Goldmick 001
Auger 002
terakris 003
Zeuss4 004
MartinClarky 005
AndrewMcmann 006
MarcSimmons 007
MarcSimmons 008
MarcSimmons 009
MarcSimmons 010
Numistacker 011
RegalStacker 012
RegalStacker 013
Shinus73 014
Roy 015
Seasider 016
Hozefa 017
Richattacroft 018
CadmiumGreen 019
Arcglide 020

 

 

 


 

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On 11/11/2018 at 13:23, Numistacker said:

I think the conservation was very important for the saleability of this coin. 

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the 1924-SA Sovereign sells for £8,900 in 62 and my guess for 61 is £7-7,500 market price .

 

Well done great result beautiful coin looking great.

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10 minutes ago, shawy2510 said:

Any news on the Heritage consignment Russell?

You mean any news on my coin at NGC rather than a Heritage consignment...Your coin is with NCS at the moment and then it will be graded. NCS processing seems to take quite a few weeks longer than plain old grading.

COIN LIST FOR INVOICE 4711976

LINE ITEM YEAR MINT MARK VARIETY DENOM. GRADE COMMENTS NCS LINE ITEM
001 2005 G.BRITAIN   1/2SOV n/a n/a 4711976001
002 2005 G.BRITAIN SEATED BRITANNIA G10PND n/a n/a 4711976002
003 1983 G.BRITAIN   1SOV n/a n/a 4711976003
004 2018 G.Britain   1SOV n/a n/a 4711976004
005 2004 G.BRITAIN   1SOV n/a n/a 4711976005
006 2010 G.BRITAIN   1SOV n/a n/a 4711976006
007 1988 G.BRITAIN   1SOV n/a n/a 4711976007
008 2007 G.BRITAIN   1SOV n/a n/a 4711976008
009 2011 G.BRITAIN   1SOV n/a n/a 4711976009
010 2002 G.BRITAIN GOLDEN JUBILEE 1SOV n/a n/a 4711976010
011 2009 G.BRITAIN   1SOV n/a n/a 4711976011
012 2005 EAGLE   G$5 n/a n/a 4711976012
013 2017Mo Mexico Gold 1/4O n/a n/a 4711976013
014 1989 G.BRITAIN SOVEREIGN ANNIVERSARY 1SOV n/a n/a 4711976014
015 1989 G.BRITAIN SOVEREIGN ANNIVERSARY 2SOV n/a n/a 4711976015
016 2002 G.BRITAIN GOLDEN JUBILEE 1SOV n/a n/a 4711976016
017 2005 G.BRITAIN   1SOV n/a n/a 4711976017
018 1982 G.BRITAIN   5SOV n/a n/a 4711976018
019 2004 G.BRITAIN   1SOV n/a n/a 4711976019
020 1998 G.BRITAIN E.E.C. ANNIVERSARY G50P n/a n/a 4711976020

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7 minutes ago, Numistacker said:

You mean any news on my coin at NGC rather than a Heritage consignment...Your coin is with NCS at the moment and then it will be graded. NCS processing seems to take quite a few weeks longer than plain old grading.

COIN LIST FOR INVOICE 4711976

LINE ITEM YEAR MINT MARK VARIETY DENOM. GRADE COMMENTS NCS LINE ITEM
001 2005 G.BRITAIN   1/2SOV n/a n/a 4711976001
002 2005 G.BRITAIN SEATED BRITANNIA G10PND n/a n/a 4711976002
003 1983 G.BRITAIN   1SOV n/a n/a 4711976003
004 2018 G.Britain   1SOV n/a n/a 4711976004
005 2004 G.BRITAIN   1SOV n/a n/a 4711976005
006 2010 G.BRITAIN   1SOV n/a n/a 4711976006
007 1988 G.BRITAIN   1SOV n/a n/a 4711976007
008 2007 G.BRITAIN   1SOV n/a n/a 4711976008
009 2011 G.BRITAIN   1SOV n/a n/a 4711976009
010 2002 G.BRITAIN GOLDEN JUBILEE 1SOV n/a n/a 4711976010
011 2009 G.BRITAIN   1SOV n/a n/a 4711976011
012 2005 EAGLE   G$5 n/a n/a 4711976012
013 2017Mo Mexico Gold 1/4O n/a n/a 4711976013
014 1989 G.BRITAIN SOVEREIGN ANNIVERSARY 1SOV n/a n/a 4711976014
015 1989 G.BRITAIN SOVEREIGN ANNIVERSARY 2SOV n/a n/a 4711976015
016 2002 G.BRITAIN GOLDEN JUBILEE 1SOV n/a n/a 4711976016
017 2005 G.BRITAIN   1SOV n/a n/a 4711976017
018 1982 G.BRITAIN   5SOV n/a n/a 4711976018
019 2004 G.BRITAIN   1SOV n/a n/a 4711976019
020 1998 G.BRITAIN E.E.C. ANNIVERSARY G50P n/a n/a 4711976020

Only asking mate, I thought it was sent with Heritage hence why I asked if your consignment had any news. Its a friends coin & he asked how it was going. I will wait for you to post results in future.

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On 12/11/2018 at 08:07, Numistacker said:

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after restoration pics. The coin was 61 going into conservation and came out a 61 as well. 

 When I thought saw it I thought there was a amight lack of reverse detail so compared it against a PCGS 62 

1826164B-B8CC-45D2-96F9-B6876B7384C0.thumb.jpeg.c56b2f961fce3b6a1d1e1441375ec93e.jpeg

top of the helmet is identical.

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it is a great and rare coin. Should get it back from NGC in the next week.

 

Let us know how much you manage to get for it. Would be good data to have as follow through.

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2 hours ago, shawy2510 said:

"You mean any news on my coin at NGC rather than a Heritage consignment.."

2 hours ago, shawy2510 said:

I thought it was sent with Heritage

I think I know what happened here - Numistacker has a separate service of consigning coins to Heritage for sale in auction and may have thought at first that you were talking about that rather than sending a coin to NGC via Heritage.

By the way I understand Heritage no longer submit coins to NGC for grading unless it is a coin being sold in their auctions.  Instead they say you should go direct to NGC's London office.  So presumably Numistacker will not be sending coins through them to NGC in future??

 

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26 minutes ago, Seasider said:

I think I know what happened here - Numistacker has a separate service of consigning coins to Heritage for sale in auction and may have thought at first that you were talking about that rather than sending a coin to NGC via Heritage.

By the way I understand Heritage no longer submit coins to NGC for grading unless it is a coin being sold in their auctions.  Instead they say you should go direct to NGC's London office.  So presumably Numistacker will not be sending coins through them to NGC in future??

 

That is also my understanding. NGC have opened a UK office and coins can be submitted there if you are an NGC member.

Collector members and Authorized Dealers may submit coins directly to our offices in the United States or to NGC UK. You can submit coins and track your order 24/7 if you are a paid member of NGC UK. Submissions are in-person ONLY not by post and appointments need to be pre-arranged.

NGC Advise - Submit through an NGC UK Authorized Dealer such as Numistacker 
"You can submit coins through one of the many NGC UK Authorized Dealers that accept submissions from the public. No membership is required". I am a UK authorised dealer authorised by NGC to accept submissions on behalf of NGC from the public.

Mostly I choose to direct submit to NGC in Florida however if you have a consignment that you specifically wish to submit via NGC UK I am happy to submit via NGC UK rather than NGC USA. There is a published price list for NGC UK services https://www.ngccoin.uk/submit/services-fees/ and these fees and services are liable to VAT at 20% on top for most members of the Silver Forum. https://www.ngccoin.uk/legal/vat-collection/ 

If you wish to make a submission and want to take advantage of the full insurance UK to USA that NGC UK offer please mention this to me when you consign and I will submit your coins via NGC UK. Please note however that costs WILL be higher particularly for add-on services, tier fees, NCS services etc should you decide to submit this way.

To summarise:

I offer FULL submission and conservation services provided via NGC UK and NGC USA.

 

 

 

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On 22/10/2018 at 18:40, Numistacker said:

Some new grading results are on the way. Let’s start with my Palladium Eagle 

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 This must be one of the most beautiful modern American coins ever minted and it is also likely to be unique because Congress has mandated that this finish will not be used on another palladium eagle.  Each one will have a different finish!

Beautiful coin worthy of being rare.

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