Avoid These Ebay Sellers/Scammers

[daz]

That is shocking , suprised that I haven't heard of that scam before

[Stu]

1924 solid silver one dollar coin

( 141488501899 )

Hi all. Thought I had just won the above on ebay for £8.50. After the sale tonight the seller emails me asking to cancel the sale which I declined. Next I receive a phone call (does anyone know if it's permitted to give out your phone number) with seller claiming they have been trying to stop the auction for the final hour of the auction as they have realised the coin is fake and they don't want to pass it on.

It all sounds a bit dodgy to me, sounds like they have realised it is worth more than it went for and don't wont to part. Any thoughts would be appreciated. I forgot to ask how they knew it was fake but took their phone number.

[Dune69]

1924 solid silver one dollar coin

( 141488501899 )

Hi all. Thought I had just won the above on ebay for £8.50. After the sale tonight the seller emails me asking to cancel the sale which I declined. Next I receive a phone call (does anyone know if it's permitted to give out your phone number) with seller claiming they have been trying to stop the auction for the final hour of the auction as they have realised the coin is fake and they don't want to pass it on.

It all sounds a bit dodgy to me, sounds like they have realised it is worth more than it went for and don't wont to part. Any thoughts would be appreciated. I forgot to ask how they knew it was fake but took their phone number.

 

it is a fake.. there was no 1927 morgan.. They ended 1921

[HelpingHands]

Edit

(Was going to point out it's not 1924 and I agree with above)

[Stu]

Cheers guys, I am steering clear of ebay for now.

[Pirocco]

it is a fake.. there was no 1927 morgan.. They ended 1921

And who else than a scammer describes an X % purity coin as "solid" silver

[Hookythestacker]

Unfortunately no longer a registered user because his feedback would have been an interesting read by now, I just liked the excellent customer focused response he gives to one unhappy punter,

 

full details at  http://feedback.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewFeedback2&userid=jonpetjon&iid=-1&de=off&items=25&which=negative&interval=180&_trkparms=negative_180

 

 

 

 

      Not silver bullion. Totally fraudulent listing: electroplated base metal. Thief Buyer: 

l***m ( 701)

During past 6 months

• Follow up by l***m (27-Aug-14 18:56):
  NOT solid silver bars but "layered" ie. a euphemism for fake. You were warned!

[ChrisSilver]

Unfortunately no longer a registered user because his feedback would have been an interesting read by now, I just liked the excellent customer focused response he gives to one unhappy punter,

full details at http://feedback.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewFeedback2&userid=jonpetjon&iid=-1&de=off&items=25&which=negative&interval=180&_trkparms=negative_180

Not silver bullion. Totally fraudulent listing: electroplated base metal. Thief Buyer:

l***m ( 701)

During past 6 months

• Follow up by l***m (27-Aug-14 18:56):NOT solid silver bars but "layered" ie. a euphemism for fake. You were warned!

I wonder, out of the 24 positive feedbacks. And of the listings that were for layered silver (maybe all his listings were) how many of those buyers deliberately bought these non precious metal pieces and were aware that they were only plated with silver.

[Hookythestacker]

I watched this user for a while Chris as his stock always appeared in the price range I searched from, sometimes he included the word layered in his listings, other times not, I did wonder as well how much of his stuff found its way back onto ebay too. He was just one of many I know, but at least he cared enough to answer customer concerns.

[HighlandTiger]

 

Unfortunately no longer a registered user because his feedback would have been an interesting read by now, I just liked the excellent customer focused response he gives to one unhappy punter,

 

full details at  http://feedback.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewFeedback2&userid=jonpetjon&iid=-1&de=off&items=25&which=negative&interval=180&_trkparms=negative_180

 

 

 

 

      Not silver bullion. Totally fraudulent listing: electroplated base metal. Thief Buyer: 

l***m ( 701)

During past 6 months

• Follow up by l***m (27-Aug-14 18:56):
  NOT solid silver bars but "layered" ie. a euphemism for fake. You were warned!

 

 

What you didn't say was that the buyer had won the auction with a bid of £2.60.  I would have thought the alarm bells would have rung if the buyer had won an ounce of silver for £2.60.

 

LOL 

[Hookythestacker]

Yep, the price made me wonder if the buyer bought the piece in order to leave a neg HT, maybe a genuine bullion guy trying to hasten this chaps departure from eBay?

[daz]

Unfortunately no longer a registered user because his feedback would have been an interesting read by now, I just liked the excellent customer focused response he gives to one unhappy punter,

 

full details at  http://feedback.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewFeedback2&userid=jonpetjon&iid=-1&de=off&items=25&which=negative&interval=180&_trkparms=negative_180

 

 

 

 

      Not silver bullion. Totally fraudulent listing: electroplated base metal. Thief Buyer: 

l***m ( 701)

During past 6 months

• Follow up by l***m (27-Aug-14 18:56):

  NOT solid silver bars but "layered" ie. a euphemism for fake. You were warned!

That isn't a response posted by the seller ,that follow up is posted by the buyer as a follow up to the feedback he already left warning other buyers

[Hookythestacker]

Having read the feedback properly daz I see you are quite right, not the outstanding customer relations coup I first thought it was, I see now it is  the buyer who is probably berating those who bought after him with the "you were warned" . Iv'e given myself a hundred lines of "I must read ebay feedback properly to avoid erroneous  posting" in an effort to make sure it doesn't happen again, never worked when I was at school so it may well happen again. 

[Hookythestacker]

May be worth a look as some of the sellers listed are still active.

 

http://allengelhard.com/counterfeits/the-auction-watchtower/

[SilverPirate]

We are on the fourth page of this thread wow what a mine field E-bay is.

[HelpingHands]

Shall we start a similar thread for Alibaba sellers?

[HighlandTiger]

Shall we start a similar thread for Alibaba sellers?

 

I don't think this forum has the server space for that......

[Paul]

Shall we start a similar thread for Alibaba sellers?

 

I would simply put up a 'LOCKED' thread NEVER to buy ANYTHING WHATSOEVER on Alibaba related to ANYTHING about precious metals.

 

 

Alibaba is only what it is today through the outright sale of blatant copies/duplicates/counterfeits & fake products of all descrptions

 

 

Oh i forgot to say, don't buy any gold/silver on alibaba

[Agpanda]

Fake pandas!

 

http://www.ebay.com/itm/2002-CHINA-PANDA-1-Troy-oz-999-SILVER-SILVER-BULLION-VERY-RARE-COIN-/221678919922?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item339d17e0f2

[Danny-boy]

Fake pandas!

http://www.ebay.com/itm/2002-CHINA-PANDA-1-Troy-oz-999-SILVER-SILVER-BULLION-VERY-RARE-COIN-/221678919922?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item339d17e0f2

What is that D about?

[ArthGoch]

For 2001 some had a 'D' mint mark and reputedly signifying D for Domestic Market; thus limited release.

 

 

A dealer based in the PRC that i ocassional buy off had a slabbed version of the 'D'  for sale at around $4,500.

 

 

EDIT = Just checked the mintage for the 'D' in 2001 and which was still 95K;  thus one hell of a premium in ratio to numbers minted and assuming that all domestic coins did carry the 'D' privy/mint mark

[Danny-boy]

For 2001 some had a 'D' mint mark and reputedly signifying D for Domestic Market; thus limited release.

A dealer based in the PRC that i ocassional buy off had a slabbed version of the 'D' for sale at around $4,500.

EDIT = Just checked the mintage for the 'D' in 2001 and which was still 95K; thus one hell of a premium in ratio to numbers minted

Thanks AG, I wasn't aware of that.

[Agpanda]

2002 was the only year with D mark

The guy selling a 2002 with D mark, totally fake

[DavePanda]

2001 was the only year with a D mark.. I told this seller weeks ago (mentioned this in the other fake Panda thread also) that he was selling 2 fake Pandas, in a nice way since he may have not known,no response, so I guess he knows and is trying to rip someione off.

[Agpanda]

correct dave, i typed wrong