Coin condition / grading

[Foe]

Hi, I know it's sort of a silly question. But does anyone know any website with coin grades with visible examples. From what I've seen in different adverts it's all over the place for any old coin. For example this coin that I got from a dealer as VF but then seen same coin in beat up condition described as VF as well.

Cheers

[Norskgeld]

The grading companies are the only real standard for coin grading.

Grades described by dealers and sellers aren't really a reliable source except for bullion.

[5huggy]

11 minutes ago, Norskgeld said:

Grades described by dealers and sellers aren't really a reliable source except for bullion.

On sovereigns - Grades given by @ChardsCoinandBullionDealer are IMHO extremely good/accurate!

Lawrence is the "WHIZZ" when it comes to Sovereigns

[DoubleEagle]

This coin has no obvious wear. The high points of the design will show the wear first; in this case the ear, and then the laurel wreath and cheek bones areas. Also, the outer rim shows no wear. So your coin would grade AU or MS. AU is if some small wear can be seen anywhere on the coin, and MS is if no wear is found. The grading services go beyond this by splitting hairs and giving the coin those familiar numbers as well. 

https://coins.ha.com/tutorial/coin-grading.s

[Foe]

Thanks for the info and link. Bookmarked 🙂

[Murph]

Is it a modern copy of a ducat?

There are plenty of grading books and some web sites but each only cover certain coins.

The standard guide to grading british coins : pre decimal edition is cheap to buy on amazon as an ebook.

Chards used to have pages on sovs but the new site has it all on one page now it seems;

https://www.chards.co.uk/blog/coin-grading-uk-cgs-pcgs-ngc-uk-and-us/79

The likes of https://www.coincommunity.com/us_coin_grading/double-eagle-liberty-head.asp  give grading guides for us eagles

https://www.thesprucecrafts.com/how-to-grade-morgan-dollars-768394  for other us coins

 

Long standing dealers will tend to grade a little more consistently but on ebay and other sites now it seems many people just pull a grade out of thin air.  There were always people who over estimated the grades of their coins but some of the descriptions I have seen in recent years are crazy.

[Foe]

1 hour ago, Murph said:

Is it a modern copy of a ducat?

There are plenty of grading books and some web sites but each only cover certain coins.

The standard guide to grading british coins : pre decimal edition is cheap to buy on amazon as an ebook.

Chards used to have pages on sovs but the new site has it all on one page now it seems;

https://www.chards.co.uk/blog/coin-grading-uk-cgs-pcgs-ngc-uk-and-us/79

The likes of https://www.coincommunity.com/us_coin_grading/double-eagle-liberty-head.asp  give grading guides for us eagles

https://www.thesprucecrafts.com/how-to-grade-morgan-dollars-768394  for other us coins

 

Long standing dealers will tend to grade a little more consistently but on ebay and other sites now it seems many people just pull a grade out of thin air.  There were always people who over estimated the grades of their coins but some of the descriptions I have seen in recent years are crazy.

Thanks again.

No that's original 1860 Silver florin.