Anybody into the Rwanda Wildlife Series??

[HelpingHands]

I've not seen any toning on the coins which I have still in their mint plastic.  I have as far back as the rhino.

It has been mentioned in the past that the plastic was changed part of the way through the series but that may or may not be true.

[silverosaurus]

So, mintage for 2015, 2014 not listed, thanks...

[Anston]

Greetings everyone. New member here. And it was questions about the mintages of the Rwanda wildlife coins that brought me here. And I hope you'll bare with me here .......

I read everywhere that the mintages for the Rwanda wildlife coins from 2008 to 2012 had a limited mintage of 5,000, and that beginning with the 2013 Cheetah they were raised to 10,000 (I've not been able to find any mintage figures as of yet for the 2016 Meerkat).

But here's the rub. It pertains to those coins with either the F12 or F15 privy marks, which are plentiful on Ebay, much more so than those without the privy marks. I never hear one word mentioned about these privy marked coins when mintage figures are being reported, with one exception; if you look at APMEX, of the Rwanda coins they have up for sale there is only one of them that they provide a mintage for, and that is the 2014 Impala. And guess what they report the mintage of this PRIVY MARKED coin at? 10,000.

This begs the question, why is APMEX not providing mintage figures for the other coins that do not have the privy mark (they normally do so if they indeed have an OFFICIAL mintage figure to report)? And if the Impala coin WITH the privy mark has a mintage of 10,000, then what is the mintage of those coins WITHOUT the privy mark? And why do they choose not to report this mintage?

I've noticed on Ebay that whether someone is selling a coin with or without a privy mark, they all report the mintage of the coin to be 5,000 or 10,000. And we all know that privy marked coins typically have an entirely different mintage figure than the same coin without.

Does anyone really have a clue as to what the mintage figures on these coins are? Both those WITH and WITHOUT the privy mark? Could it be possible that when a mintage figure of "5,000" is reported, this includes BOTH those with a privy mark and those without? I doubt that. It would seem to me that the mintage figures being reported are for those coins without the privy marks. But that would mean no one has a clue as to what the mintage figures are for the privy marked coins. 

Bottom line is, I can find nowhere where ANYONE distinguishing the mintages of these coins that distinguish between those with and those without privy marks.

If anyone could enlighten me on this matter it would be most appreciated, but I've not found one person or website to even mention the issue. But in closing I might say this, if you're looking at, say, two 2008 gorillas, one with a privy mark and one without, and they're asking $350 to $500 for them, I'd suggest being able to answer my question is nothing short of critical. Otherwise, it could be you find out later down the road you spent a small fortune on a coin who's true mintage you were actually clueless about.

~Anston

[crazyglue]

I have the exact same question as Anston.

I am trying to figure out what the mintage of of the 2008 with and without f12 privy.

The f12 privy has a mintage reported of 5k. The coin itself has a mintage of 5k. Does that mean that there are 10k 2008 running around?

 

Also, on a side note, do you consider your collection complete with just the pvc versions, or do you also collect both the privy and non-privy versions?

[sovereignsteve]

I don't think we can rely on any quoted mintage figure for this type of coin. The mintage figure only gives you a clue as to the rarity or otherwise of a coin. The availabilty and price over a period gives you similar information although the two sometimes don't tie in.

In general collectors want non-privy examples.

2 minutes ago, shortstack68 said:

I found a little info on the 2016 coin, basically it's saying the BU is unlimited and that the proof version has a 1000 mintage, will dig around and see if i can find any other info on the 2008

 

Seit 2008, mit jährlich wechselndem Motiv, erscheinen die Ruanda Silbermünzen unter der Lizenz der Nationalbank Ruandas. Auf der Bildseite der Anlagemünze sind jedes Jahr seit 2008 bekannte Tiermotive der afrikanischen Fauna dargestellt. Mit einem Durchmesser von 40,00 mm gehören die Münzen auch zu den größeren Silbermünzen. Die Ausgabejahre sind seit 2008 bis heute (2016) allesamt echte Verkaufsschlager gewesen. Die 2016er Ausgabe der Ruanda African Silver Ounce zeigt 3 stehende Erdmännchen. Die Stempelglanz Prägung der Silbermünze ist unlimitiert, wird aber nur im Ausgabejahr produziert. Der Rand der Münzen ist geriffelt und die Proof Auflage beläuft sich auf nur 1.000 Münzen weltweit. Das Feingewicht der Ruanda Silbermünze liegt bei 31,10 Gramm. Auf der Wertseite befindet sich jedes Jahr das ruandische Siegel, welches auf das Herkunftsland und den Nennwert verweist. Die Münzen erscheinen in der Stückelung immer nur als 1 Unze. Mit einer Silberfeinheit von 999/1.000 werden die Silbermünzen in bester Qualität in einer Münztasche eingeschweißt geliefert und stellen einen wahren Hingucker dar. Mit einem Durchmesser von 40,00 mm gehören die Münzen auch zu den größeren 1oz Silbermünzen. 

If you are fluent in German, may I suggest you translate that for us?

[sovereignsteve]

Charming

[Roy]

Poor show

[Clens92]

23 minutes ago, shortstack68 said:

You really can't see the part i wrote in English at the start, just before the German text, you must need glasses, so here it is again just for you, only a little bigger this time for the sight impaired my apologies that i gave a short version of the German text

 

 found a little info on the 2016 coin, basically it's saying the BU is unlimited and that the proof version has a 1000 mintage, will dig around and see if i can find any other info on the 2008

Why are the majority of your posts on this forum so passive-aggressive, boastful, or just downright rude? 

You won't win many friends treating people so abrasively, and it may well have an impact should you come to buy or sell silver to the forum members.

 

[sovereignsteve]

4 hours ago, shortstack68 said:

Wasn't the translation what you asked for? This was you asking this question, correct?

If you are fluent in German, may I suggest you translate that for us?

I believe i had already wrote the translation before you asked, but you obviously were keen to jump onto the German thing, if you need a translation of the same thing i just wrote then google is always your friend, PS, i live in Germany and have done for 9 years, i'm not fluent in German but can speak and read the lingo, working here with Germans it really is part of the job description to be able to communicate with your co-workers. If you require any other German text translated then please feel free to consult google in future

 

You wrote a one line translation and quoted 14 lines of German text.

My question was light hearted, do you really have no sense of humour?

BTW I was genuinely interested in what the 14 lines had to say but I find Google translate to be a poor substitute for a real translation provided by someone who can speak and read the lingo.

"but you obviously were keen to jump onto the German thing,"   what on earth do you mean by that?

[nomisma_ag]

Haven't read this thread carefully, and i know nothing about the privy's. All i know is since 2008, excluding the privy's which i know nothing about, each year has seen a release of a 1000 mintage proof's which come in hard capsules, and an unlimited mintage of BU, which come in soft plastic pouches.

 

The past few years, the BU gorilla has been valued higher than the proof gorilla, but it's my sense that is starting to change. I believe it's because the general notion that someone out there is sitting on a large pile of BU gorilla's.

 

I bought the last proof 2008 gorilla i could find on the internet, paid a ridiculous price, but regret nothing. 

[Silvercoinstacker]

Iam collecting these coins. Iam missing the gorilla and the lion. Amazing looking coins

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[MuddyOfCoventry]

If anyone has the gorilla, elephant or lion in decent (preferably in original packaging) condition, I am interested in purchasing