Help Needed: Validation if these Proofs exist?

[BullionCraver]

Hey guys, I was speaking to a dealer who offered the following:-

1) QE2 2013 India (Proof on a card) - 5th portrait <-- I didn't find any with a frosty proof finish
2) QE2 2016 (Proof) - 5th portrait standard [non butler effigy] [there are about 1.6k minted?]
3) QE2 2017 (Proof) - 5th portrait standard [without garter] <--- I couldn't find details about them online except for the privy ones.

Are they real as described?

Cheers!

[Guest]

I believe these are standard bullion. 😉 The newer sovereigns have very reflective mirror like fields, but they have no frosting on the design. 

[ilovesilverireallydo]

1 hour ago, BullionCraver said:

1) QE2 2013 India (Proof on a card) - 5th portrait <-- I didn't find any with a frosty proof finish

They wouldnt issue proofs on a card. Also  - no india proofs issued for that year. 

 

1 hour ago, BullionCraver said:

2) QE2 2016 (Proof) - 5th portrait standard [non butler effigy] [there are about 1.6k minted?]

As far as I am aware - only Butler Effigy proof exists for that year. Also 7.5K minted. 
 

1 hour ago, BullionCraver said:

3) QE2 2017 (Proof) - 5th portrait standard [without garter] <--- I couldn't find details about them online except for the privy ones.

 

Again only a garter edge proof exists for that year. 

[terakris]

1 hour ago, BullionCraver said:

2) QE2 2016 (Proof) - 5th portrait standard [non butler effigy] [there are about 1.6k minted?]
3) QE2 2017 (Proof) - 5th portrait standard [without garter] <--- I couldn't find details about them online except for the privy ones.

 

Probably these instead, so not proof but BU or bullion

 

[Au79]

QE2 2017 Strike of the day.  

[terakris]

6 hours ago, Au79 said:

QE2 2017 Strike of the day.  

Isn't that wrongly designated as the sotd are bu not proof?

 

[BullionCraver]

Thanks for the guidance guys!!! I'll have with the dealer further.

[Au79]

Yes indeed the recent years DPL has a small batch mislabeled of Deep Proof Like as Proof, the mislabeled however was not recalled & corrected. However the process of calling a spade a spade was implemented, and Deep Proof Like is now as it is DPL / DMPL. Not a proof but a proof look alike. 

When the coin’s reflection is place against a line. A prooflike coin should have a minimum of 2-4 inches visible, while for a coin to be a deep-mirror prooflike it should have as much as 6-8 inches of lines clearly visible.

[westminstrel]

Proof versions of the India Sovereigns do not exist. Although they are released in the red certifcards and boxes (from 2013 to current), they are all just regular bullion coins.