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steve6658

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1 hour ago, steve6658 said:

Hi, I am a metal detectorist and recently dug up a silver tea/coffee spoon. I'm hoping that a learned member could i.d. the markings for me please.

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The TTA has nothing to do with hallmarks. But the lion does indicate sterling silver. The other mark is too rubbed out to say what date letter it is, but if I had to hazard a guess it's the London date letter "g" for 1862  There should be two other marks showing the makers mark and assay office. 

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I think this predates 1770s - no cursive year marks letters like these exist in the current database (1773 to current)

Also - as you can see the spoon end turns back - dates its to the 1750s ( I first thought it was Hanoverian - but they turn inwards) .



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The design was specifically called  Old English Pattern

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7 minutes ago, ilovesilverireallydo said:

I think this predates 1770s - no cursive year marks letters like these exist in the current database (1773 to current)

Also - as you can see the spoon end turns back - dates its to the 1750s ( I first thought it was Hanoverian - but they turn inwards) .

1624, has a very similar g but not quite right.

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http://www.silvercollection.it/ASCASMCKINLEYDATELETTERS.html

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I'd bet on it being a makers mark.  Perhaps a GC.

 

Also from what I can see of the lion it looks like a late 1750s onwards to maybe near the end of the 1700s which would fit with the way the marks are made.

 

There's a George Camper in my big Jacksons under London 1751 but the surrounding lozenge shape doesn't match up.  Not that means the maker didn't use one like yours as well.

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41 minutes ago, ilovesilverireallydo said:

I think this predates 1770s - no cursive year marks letters like these exist in the current database (1773 to current)

Also - as you can see the spoon end turns back - dates its to the 1750s ( I first thought it was Hanoverian - but they turn inwards) .



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The design was specifically called  Old English Pattern

Yes and was popular up until the early 19th century but could still be found into the 20th occasionally.

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29 minutes ago, Murph said:

I'd bet on it being a makers mark.  Perhaps a GC.

 

Also from what I can see of the lion it looks like a late 1750s onwards to maybe near the end of the 1700s which would fit with the way the marks are made.

 

There's a George Camper in my big Jacksons under London 1751 but the surrounding lozenge shape doesn't match up.  Not that means the maker didn't use one like yours as well.

Aye one other reason I dated it 1750s. I think the letter is a red herring as it wouldn’t be that big enough for it to be half worn. Most likely as you say a makers mark

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