Sovereigns from the Buckingham Collection

[Guest]

On 20/06/2019 at 15:51, ceegold said:

No is the short answer. I was told on Tuesday that my order had been cancelled because I had told them that I would be contacting Trading Standards if they could not provide me with a firm date when my coins would be delivered. I was promised an e-mail confirming that my order had been.cancelled by close of businees on Tuesday and my money would be returned however at the time of writing I have not had any e-mail, coins or a refund.

That's shocking behaviour 😲 

On 20/06/2019 at 16:41, HighlandTiger said:

I think I've given them enough time to either refund me, or send my coins. Time to let the PayPal security department take over methinks.

Paypal will terminate Buckingham Collection's merchant account if they carry on like this.

[dicker]

Nothing beats a visit in person to “iron out” any misunderstandings. 

[kimchi]

6 minutes ago, dicker said:

Nothing beats a visit in person to “iron out” any misunderstandings. 

I usually find introducing such characters to the singular experience of a first meeting with a kilo silver bar works surprisingly well

[HighlandTiger]

If I end up losing the cash through technicalities, with paypal  or my credit card company, I'll just go down the small claims court. I'll close the bugger down If I don't get my cash back.  

[HighlandTiger]

2 hours ago, Mcgrimes said:

Thought that was the case, despite still charging fees!

I believe things get even more complicated if you paid on a credit card via PayPal, in which case section 75 (?) doesn't apply 

Does PayPal ever work for Section 75?

There could be circumstances where the necessary relationship may exist. For example, larger retailers may use it as a “merchant acquiring service”, which means it acts as a traditional payment processor. Yet, it's very difficult to tell – so to be on the safe side, assume not.

If you’re going to get really nerdy on this (ignore this bit if you don’t want nerd-dom), it’s worth noting there are some court rulings which can be read as contradicting the Ombudsman’s view. In other words, that Section 75 does apply to PayPal, most notably if the retailer has entered into a commercial entity agreement with PayPal.

 

From Moneyexpert

[Mcgrimes]

@HighlandTiger - from the same article:

 - As the Ombudsman route is easier (and allows you to go to court after if you don’t like what it says, but it doesn’t work the other way round) my preference is to stick with it – which means following its interpretation, which is pretty clear that in most cases it won’t uphold Section 75 claims via PayPal.

But, you can chargeback (generally):

- If your card is used directly through PayPal. If there’s no money loaded and your card is used directly to make a transaction through PayPal then chargeback should apply.

[zeusss4]

I was scammed on gumtree buying coins.

Paypal refused to do anything. Luckily I used my Barclaycard who refunded me within 7 days. 

Just had to print out the transaction details and send it to them. 

[Guest]

The Buckingham collection have started a company called INSURE MY LIFE LTD (Director Nurul Islam Uddin) lol.

https://www.companieslist.co.uk/11486926-insure-my-life-limited

 

 

 

[Mcgrimes]

Well, no update yet, think I'm getting led on! Well, felt like that for a while 

[ilovesilverireallydo]

I do hope people get their coins or money back. I for one am glad I didn’t buy from these guys, just felt too fishy from the start. 

I am 100% sure they are not connected to H&B. The directors of H&B have been involved in numismatics for a while. 

My only advice is to always check the company out before you buy. 

[TonyS]

I’ve followed this thread with interest even though I only collect silver. Is there any way the members of the forum that have been stung could get together and take out a joint action against Buckingham Collections?

[Mcgrimes]

2 hours ago, TonyS said:

I’ve followed this thread with interest even though I only collect silver. Is there any way the members of the forum that have been stung could get together and take out a joint action against Buckingham Collections?

I've escalated to a claim through PayPal, as all I've been getting is empty promises. I'll get in touch with my bank about a charge back. 

Failing that I'll open a claim through my legal cover 

[pricha]

I been reading this thread with interest , i don't normally contribute to the forum but enjoy reading it. I would advise people owed money to push very quickly for a settlement before this company files for bankruptcy . It seems they have been running some sort of a ponzi scheme , and now with the sudden rise in gold it's about to collapse. It looks very likely that is were they are heading, and once they do i'm afraid that's that regards to making a claim. I'd obviously recommend no one else deals with this company.    

[Goldflinger]

This is terrible tbh. I really hope you all get sorted with refunds at least. If I'd have seen at least one picture post in 'today I received' from the BC, I'd have likely been in the same boat, as that's what eventually prompted me into trying out H&B.

As RichRock has posted from companies house, they seem to have a fishy record of regularly changing company names and addresses all round Bournemouth, and hardselling things like washing machine insurance.

I found a couple more interesting links from sites I'd use myself when I don't recognise a phone number coming up on the display. The Royston middle name makes googling a bit easier, where people mention it.

https://www.unknownphone.com/search.php?num=03332120815

https://who-called.co.uk/Number/03332128954

 

 

 

 

 

[Goldflinger]

I found another relatively recent link from companies house, only published on 10 June it says, that doesn't make for good reading either and kind of backs up what you're saying there @Pipers

https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/media/5cf8f3a4e5274a5f1a84ca37/Mr_G_Webb_v_The_Buckingham_Collection_Limited_-_1401239.2019_-_Judgment_-_6.6.19.pdf

[goldmember44]

Seems not his email is even working anymore. I just tried to send off a message, to see if he would sell me a 1937 Sovereign  

 

[Mcgrimes]

I’ve escalated my claim to PayPal to see what happens. Time to ring the bank I think

[HighlandTiger]

1 hour ago, Mcgrimes said:

I’ve escalated my claim to PayPal to see what happens. Time to ring the bank I think

Snap

[Mcgrimes]

Just now, HighlandTiger said:

Snap

I’ve also formally raised it with my CC provider

[Pipers]

With all the falled  businesses how does this man get away with it, how is he able to to get facilities with PayPal and credit cards. 

[richatthecroft]

2 minutes ago, Pipers said:

With all the falled  businesses how does this man get away with it, how is he able to to get facilities with PayPal and credit cards. 

Like him- these financial institutions cheat, lie and screw us all- they just do it out in the open

 

[Oldun]

Any come from nowhere company that uses titles like "Buckingham" etc to try to affiliate with status rings alarm bells in my book from the start....

 

This is the only place I could find this clip

https://www.thesun.co.uk/video/tv/bottling-peckham-springs-water-in-classic-only-fools-and-horses-clip/

[HighlandTiger]

8 hours ago, Pipers said:

With all the falled  businesses how does this man get away with it, how is he able to to get facilities with PayPal and credit cards. 

Lets just say, once the members on this forum have finished with him, he'll struggle to get a co-op loyalty card. 

[Roy]

I can picture HT putting together a folder of documentation as thick as a dictionary. 😡

'Hell hath no fury like a stacker stung!'

I wish you all the best, let's see how good 'buyer protection' really is.

 

[goldmember44]

Is Yasmin Thomas our new heroine? 😛