Silver Diddlers- under 24mm dia. - Edward VII 3d's

[Caratacus]

Thought it would be interesting to run a topic/posting on the Bob size or smaller silver coins less than 24mm dia. (the Diddlers) out there just for general interest........   hope thats ok?

Many remain very collectable, particularly for budding school age collectors;  fairly cheap (not always) & may get overlooked by the 1oz/larger coin collectors.

So to kick-off here are 3 circulated silver (.925 sterling silver) 3d (threepences) old money; for many years the smallest silver circulated British coin-16.2mm.dia..   There were 4 to each shilling.  Issued: 1902-1910 & perfect for a collector short of cash, but has a matchbox for "secure" storage.  These are interesting coins and even today have a use in Christmas Puddings (just don't swallow them).

 

[SouthCoastInvestor]

I think I paid £1 each for these from an antiques shop, only 50% silver content:

[Caratacus]

1892 The original Silver Kruger"sixpence"!  A nice interesting  .925 Sterling Silver Diddler dia. 19.35mm. Produced from about 1892-7 in the Suid Africaansche Republiek - ZAR with the date and value surrounded by two olive branches. I understand 1892 year coins have better quality detail. ( I wonder what the future has in store for RSA?)

I think originally these may have been minted in the Royal Prussian Mint, Berlin; with Otto Schultz the engraver whose initials (OS) were removed from 93 onwards.

 

 

 

 

[Seasider]

I am not sure we have got to George VII yet.😀

[Caratacus]

Now corrected

[Seasider]

A few WW1 vintage and a penny ha'penny which I think is West Indian

[Caratacus]

To complement a Canadian 10cent - here is a circulated sterling silver .925  Victorian 1891 5cent. A bit worn.  Has a reeded edge.   Engraver- LC Wyon??

Quite a pretty little coin- the "young" Victoria (surely she was about 70 by now!) with, I guess, an "olive branch" crown

 

[Goldhooked]

I have an 1850 Swiss 10 Rappen.  Quite worn and only 10% silver but a nice design.

https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces172.html

[Goldhooked]

I also stumbled across this 1935 Australian George V six pence.  Apparently it’s a key date as it was the lowest mintage year with 392000 struck.  It is Sterling silver.

https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces1563.html

[CarlosSilver]

I've got a few well worn Victorian groats (four pence). I'll get a picture when I have more time. Same size as the 3d 

I've got loads of pre 1920 thrupenny bits. In fact I use one as my golf ball marker. 

[Caratacus]

3 hours ago, Goldhooked said:

I have an 1850 Swiss 10 Rappen.  Quite worn and only 10% silver but a nice design.

https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces172.html

You never think of the Swiss being short of precious metal and skimping on silver;  but it might be because that's the first year they produced coins under the Swiss  Federal Coinage Act - so 1850 is quite a historic coinage date; (maybe also because it was worth a 10th of a Franc?)

[Caratacus]

Thick rimmed Indian Emperor George VI  Silver (.500) 1/4 Rupee.  Bombay mint as dot below Lotus flower? There is a lot of symbolism jostling on the reverse

Now here's an interesting question.....what happened to the Indian quarter Rupee in 1943/5?   I believe they were still .500 silver until 1946.

The coin looks double thickness like a sandwich with ?silver in between the two sides  weighs 2.93g approx

Does anyone know why this occurred please??

 

[Goldhooked]

10 minutes ago, Caratacus said:

Thick rimmed Indian Emperor George VI  Silver (.500) 1/4 Rupee.  Bombay mint as dot below Lotus flower? There is a lot of symbolism jostling on the reverse

Now here's an interesting question.....what happened to the Indian quarter Rupee in 1943/5?   I believe they were still .500 silver until 1946.

The coin looks double thickness like a sandwich with ?silver in between the two sides  weighs 2.93g approx

Does anyone know why this occurred please??

According to Numista - “During 1943 the edge changed from reeded to security edge”

Here’s the 1942/3 reeded edge - https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces22399.html

And here’s the 1943/5 security edge - https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces4854.html

[Caratacus]

Whereas Indian Emperor George V quarter Rupee 1913 is .925 sterling and typically a thin coin - like a sixpence

[Caratacus]

9 minutes ago, Goldhooked said:

According to Numista - “During 1943 the edge changed from reeded to security edge”

Here’s the 1942/3 reeded edge - https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces22399.html

And here’s the 1943/5 security edge - https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces4854.html

Thankyou- I had heard about a security edge but thought they meant  something about the milling but Numista makes it very, very obvious .... thank you ....... its still an odd little coin...    only half a billion had a security edge during this 3 yr period!!

[ilovesilverireallydo]

I have a stupid amount of diddlers, here is one partially filled box...

[Caratacus]

Impressive collection that embarrassed my small wallet!

[Caratacus]

Empress Victoria on an 1891 quarter Rupee - .917 silver. One of several millions! (I only have one)

The fine engraving (engraver William Wyon) on this coin is impressive in my view. I guessminted in Calcutta but I am unsure- anyone know?

 

[Caratacus]

Emperor's : Edward VII  1902 &  George V 1914 Ceylon 10cents. Silver .800

Relatively low numbers minted of these but surprisingly still quite a lot around. Sorry but camera struggled with the Emperors

 

[Martlet]

On 10/03/2019 at 12:14, ilovesilverireallydo said:

I have a stupid amount of diddlers, here is one partially filled box...

 

Where do you gather such a quantity from?  Ebay?  I rarely see lots with low enough premium to beat regular bullion, a few here and there in very poor condition.  Would like a stack of these sorts of coins, more interesting, not a whole box though.

[ilovesilverireallydo]

10 minutes ago, Martlet said:

Where do you gather such a quantity from?  Ebay?  I rarely see lots with low enough premium to beat regular bullion, a few here and there in very poor condition.  Would like a stack of these sorts of coins, more interesting, not a whole box though.

I have dealer contacts I buy from...

[ilovesilverireallydo]

11 minutes ago, Martlet said:

Where do you gather such a quantity from?  Ebay?  I rarely see lots with low enough premium to beat regular bullion, a few here and there in very poor condition.  Would like a stack of these sorts of coins, more interesting, not a whole box though.

If you pm me what you looking for then I can check for you. The guy had 500 pre20 three pence coins last week, some guy beat me to them...

[Seasider]

22 hours ago, Caratacus said:

I guessminted in Calcutta but I am unsure- anyone know?

Yes - it has a C mint mark in the flower below the date.

[Caratacus]

28 minutes ago, Seasider said:

Yes - it has a C mint mark in the flower below the date.

Grief, I would never have spotted that on the coin! Thanks  Seasider for confirming that; I'm off to Specsavers.....

[RacerCool]

On 20/03/2019 at 16:41, Caratacus said:

Empress Victoria on an 1891 quarter Rupee - .917 silver. One of several millions! (I only have one)

The fine engraving (engraver William Wyon) on this coin is impressive in my view. I guessminted in Calcutta but I am unsure- anyone know?

 

Oh that's a pretty little thing. It would be sweet to stack a roll/tube of these.