50 years of 50p sets

[Cornishfarmer]

Explains it all now......... they didn’t know demand would be so high

[Silverstackeruk]

7 hours ago, Sadbuttrue2 said:

Yes! There will be a second part.

This is all the designs!  The highlighted ones are in second part:) b,  d ,  e ,  h ,  I

DESIGNS OF THE COINS

 

4. The design of the said fifty pence gold, silver and cupro-nickel coins shall be either:

 

‘For the obverse impression either:

 

(a) Our effigy with the inscription “∙ ELIZABETH II ∙ DEI ∙ GRA ∙ REG ∙ FID ∙ DEF ∙ 2019”; or

 

(b) Our effigy with the inscription “∙ ELIZABETH II ∙ D ∙ G ∙ REG ∙ F ∙ D ∙ 50 PENCE ∙ 2019”,

 

and for the reverse either:

 

(a) the figure of Britannia, seated beside a lion, with a shield resting against her right side, holding a trident in her right hand and an olive branch in her left hand; and the figure “50” together with the words “NEW PENCE”; or

 

(b) a design representing the D-Day landings of the Allied invasion force heading for Normandy and filling the sea and sky, with the inscription “50 PENCE”; or 

(c) the legs of a running athlete with a stylized stopwatch in the background and, with the inscription “50 PENCE”; or

 

(d) a depiction of the obverse and reverse of a Victoria Cross with the date “29. JAN 1856” in the centre of the reverse of the Cross, with the inscription “VC” “FIFTY PENCE

(e) a depiction of a soldier carrying a wounded comrade with an outline of the Victoria Cross surrounded by a sunburst effect in the background with the inscription “FIFTY PENCE” ; or

 

(f) a fleur-de-lis superimposed over a globe and accompanied by the inscription “BE PREPARED” and the dates “∙ 1907 ∙” and “∙ 2007 ∙”, and the denomination “FIFTY PENCE”; or

 

(g) a design showing the pagoda, a building strongly associated with the Royal Botanic Gardens at Kew, encircled by a vine and accompanied by the dates “1759” and “2009”, with the word “KEW” at the base of the pagoda; or

 

(h) a design showing the scene from the Bayeux tapestry depicting King Harold with an arrow in his eye accompanied by the inscription “BATTLE OF HASTINGS 1066” and the date “2016”

(i) a design showing airmen running to their planes with enemy aircraft overhead accompanied by the inscription “THE BATTLE OF BRITAIN 1940”; or

 

(j) a design which depicts a repeating pattern of the current identity of Girlguiding UK, accompanied by the inscription “CELEBRATING ONE HUNDRED YEARS OF GIRLGUIDING UK” and the denomination “50 PENCE”.

 

The coins shall have a plain edge.’

 

5. This Proclamation shall come into force on the eighth day of November Two thousand and eighteen.

 

Given at Our Court at Buckingham Palace this seventh day of November in the year of Our Lord Two thousand and eighteen and in the sixty-seventh year of Our Reign.

 

Can't see this set being in high demand as the 1st..most people just wanted Kew gardens..I manager to double my money on 2 sets so I'm happy..first time I've ever flipped something..feels good lol..think I could get used to this 😁

[richatthecroft]

I guess it would depend on the mintage.  This sold out latest release exemplified the huge demand and people paying well over three times the release price. There’s a huge amount of people who collect 50p’s out there. 

[h103efa]

1 minute ago, richatthecroft said:

I guess it would depend on the mintage.  This sold out latest release exemplified the huge demand and people paying well over three times the release price. There’s a huge amount of people who collect 50p’s out there. 

There certainly is, and people will pay above face value for some of the on circulation versions. Jemima puddleduck and Newton 50ps are the pricy ones, apart from Kew. 

[shortstack68]

1 minute ago, h103efa said:

There certainly is, and people will pay above face value for some of the on circulation versions. Jemima puddleduck and Newton 50ps are the pricy ones, apart from Kew. 

The thing is, it was the circulation Kew that was the rarity and not the proof. People are buying for the Kew alone in my opinion. I’m sometimes scratch my head at the hype 

[h103efa]

5 minutes ago, shortstack68 said:

The thing is, it was the circulation Kew that was the rarity and not the proof. People are buying for the Kew alone in my opinion. I’m sometimes scratch my head at the hype 

Yep, i wonder about this too. But i guess the Kew design with all the different versions is still a low total amount of coins compared to others. Its the only reason i can think why the BUNC and proofs sell for so much?

[Silverstackeruk]

25 minutes ago, shortstack68 said:

The thing is, it was the circulation Kew that was the rarity and not the proof. People are buying for the Kew alone in my opinion. I’m sometimes scratch my head at the hype 

That's exactly why I flipped them instead of keeping them 😂 doubt they will increase much from the eBay prices..

[shortstack68]

9 minutes ago, Silverstackeruk said:

That's exactly why I flipped them instead of keeping them 😂 doubt they will increase much from the eBay prices..

And that's exactly what you should do, holding onto a forever memory of a hyped coin will result in it eventually faltering after a while as people move onto the next hyped coin hoping to make a dollar or 5, those who buy at the top will be left holding the baby while others are using their profit to increase their stacks.....

Thats why i continually say, don't get sucked into the hype, there's only so many sets available and only so many people can buy, eventually these things wear off because of the stupid prices which eBay sellers and dealers think they are worth, at the end of the day, it's either 1oz of silver or 1oz of gold and what you will have paid for that will probably get you 3 or 5 Ozs of bullion.........Its crazy how some people react to youtube and TSF hype machine

[Silverstackeruk]

1 minute ago, shortstack68 said:

And that's exactly what you should do, holding onto a forever memory of a hyped coin will result in it eventually faltering after a while as people move onto the next hyped coin hoping to make a dollar or 5, those who buy at the top will be left holding the baby while others are using their profit to increase their stacks.....

Thats why i continually say, don't get sucked into the hype, there's only so many sets available and only so many people can buy, eventually these things wear off because of the stupid prices which eBay sellers and dealers think they are worth, at the end of the day, it's either 1oz of silver or 1oz of gold and you will have paid for that will probably get you 3 or 5 Ozs of bullion.........Its crazy how some people react to youtube and TSF hype machine

Yep I've learnt the hard way...all my coins I've been stacking have decreased in value since 2012 😪 should have sold at the peak.

[shortstack68]

1 minute ago, Silverstackeruk said:

Yep I've learnt the hard way...all my coins I've been stacking have decreased in value since 2012 😪 should have sold at the peak.

You should buy what you like and think of it as a long term investment, paying way over the odds is only going to make the seller a winner and you the loser, remember the release prices and ask yourself how much silver or gold content is actually in what you’re buying.

Remember the Rwanda coins, 100 mintage for the rooster, dealers wanted a bigger piece of the 2nd offering pie and now they are still sitting on their websites unable to sell them because of the greed, now look at the gold set, silly prices, virtually double the release at one dealers website, try selling it to them at their price and they’ll just laugh at you.

[Zhorro]

42 minutes ago, shortstack68 said:

The thing is, it was the circulation Kew that was the rarity and not the proof. People are buying for the Kew alone in my opinion. I’m sometimes scratch my head at the hype 

But the 2009 circulation Kew is not a rare coin:

210,000 went into circulation

128,364 were in BU packs, 

34,438 were in proof sets,

and this ignores the silver and gold versions.

The difficult thing is telling it apart from the "copies".

I think that people just see the word Kew and think it is rare.

The 2019 issue is far rarer than the original 2009 issue.

 

[shortstack68]

A circulation coin wouldn’t go into a proof set, only proofs go in proof sets, that’s why one is called proof and the other circulation, circulation goes into the population of what we use in everyday life. There’s also a difference between BU, circulation and proof

[creative]

To put it out there I wanted the set for the Kew and New Pence coins 

[blackadder]

Wouldn't this new set lower the value of the circulation kew gardens,As there's kinda more out there now in a way.Can see people breaking up the set to grade the more sort after coins in it.

then the rest all selling for £20 in afew months

[creative]

24 minutes ago, blackadder said:

Wouldn't this new set lower the value of the circulation kew gardens,As there's kinda more out there now in a way.Can see people breaking up the set to grade the more sort after coins in it.

then the rest all selling for £20 in afew months

I wouldn’t have thought so. It’s seen as a sort of ‘classic’ collectable. Same ways cars become classics even if they make newer versions.

[ukcoins]

The most recent circulated 2009 date Kew Gardens 50p sale on eBay UK went for £115, seems the value is still going up!

Kew Gardens 50p worth

[blackadder]

10 minutes ago, creative said:

I wouldn’t have thought so. It’s seen as a sort of ‘classic’ collectable. Same ways cars become classics even if they make newer versions.

Fair enough 👍 I might have picked up the normal set and the silver one.But never got a chance ☹️

[ukcoins]

11 minutes ago, blackadder said:

Fair enough 👍 I might have picked up the normal set and the silver one.But never got a chance ☹️

You are not alone, I missed it too! We are tracking prices now to see if they drop enough to be tempted. Picked up the original 2009 Executive Proof Set on eBay yesterday for less than the new one so there are still opportunities, you just need to track prices and be patient. This stuff gets adddictive!

[shortstack68]

43 minutes ago, ukcoins said:

The most recent circulated 2009 date Kew Gardens 50p sale on eBay UK went for £115, seems the value is still going up!

Kew Gardens 50p worth

Probably due to the new sets adding the interest again

[blackadder]

59 minutes ago, ukcoins said:

You are not alone, I missed it too! We are tracking prices now to see if they drop enough to be tempted. Picked up the original 2009 Executive Proof Set on eBay yesterday for less than the new one so there are still opportunities, you just need to track prices and be patient. This stuff gets adddictive!

Or you have no idea something is coming out,or they give release dates of anywhere between now and march.So you have to be lucky or sit at the pc for 3 months 😂I think a more staggered release on some items would work better.

[ukcoins]

Just now, blackadder said:

Or you have no idea something is coming out,or they give release dates of anywhere between now and march.So you have to be lucky or sit at the pc for 3 months 😂I think a more staggered release on some items would work better.

The first thing they should do is make it 1 per household, to stop people buying multiples just for eBay resale.

Seems they do releases on Monday’s so you only need to check Sundays and stay up all night!

The Royal Mint keep using The Gruffalo pop ups on their site the past couple days so I guess that one is coming soon. 1st March?

[mina2500]

4 hours ago, ukcoins said:

The first thing they should do is make it 1 per household, to stop people buying multiples just for eBay resale.

Seems they do releases on Monday’s so you only need to check Sundays and stay up all night!

The Royal Mint keep using The Gruffalo pop ups on their site the past couple days so I guess that one is coming soon. 1st March?

I get it would rely upon the mintage. This sold out most recent discharge exemplified the gigantic interest and individuals paying great more than multiple times the discharge cost. There's a colossal measure of individuals who gather 50p's out there.Brazzers Youporn Xhamster

[blackadder]

19 minutes ago, ukcoins said:

The first thing they should do is make it 1 per household, to stop people buying multiples just for eBay resale.

Seems they do releases on Monday’s so you only need to check Sundays and stay up all night!

The Royal Mint keep using The Gruffalo pop ups on their site the past couple days so I guess that one is coming soon. 1st March?

I'm not that bothered by it,But i bet most people buying them a day later on ebay for £300/£400 are collectors that just couldn't get them.

Due to how these things are released,I think you are right on the release times etc.Remember seeing the snowman at like 3am lol But that was only due to someone on here posting about it late at night.

[ukcoins]

2 minutes ago, blackadder said:

I'm not that bothered by it,But i bet most people buying them a day later on ebay for £300/£400 are collectors that just couldn't get them.

Due to how these things are released,I think you are right on the release times etc.Remember seeing the snowman at like 3am lol But that was only due to someone on here posting about it late at night.

That’s why’s i joined here recently, to get better info from others when stuff is released. We should set up an early warning * coin release alert * email group!

[Zhorro]

40 minutes ago, ukcoins said:

The first thing they should do is make it 1 per household, to stop people buying multiples just for eBay resale.

Seems they do releases on Monday’s so you only need to check Sundays and stay up all night!

The Royal Mint keep using The Gruffalo pop ups on their site the past couple days so I guess that one is coming soon. 1st March?

It would be useful if Royal Mint produced a list of issue dates - then we would know what to expect.  Does anyone know when the second set of 5 fifty pences is due out?

The Royal Mint web site does seem to announce issues early on Monday mornings just after midnight - but with this issue they were not taking orders until 9am when a lot of people would be at work!

Even when something has been issued, the Royal Mint web site is not that user friendly - you may not be able to access it, or if you are able to, there is a queue, and then at the end, the transaction may or may not go through.  This is frustrating.