Comedy Gold "Sovereigns" and an Arabic Guinea

[h103efa]

As i mentioned earlier today in another thread (@NRSovereign, @MickB), its often customary (indian heritage) to receive gold (jewellry and coins) during weddings or birth of children.

Some of the gold received is often in the style of sovereign coins but are not actually real sovereigns, just gold copies. The reason is people just buy for the gold weight, they dont know or care that it is in the form of a sovereign look.

Here is a selection of such coins we have received as gifts. They have been verified as real gold by a jeweller friend of ours. Also ive put a photo of a Full Arabic guinea we received for your interest.

Coins are shown in order of weight
Top ~1g (1/8 sov)
2nd row ~2g (1/4 sov)
3rd row ~4g (1/2 sov)
Bottom ~8g (full sov)

[NRSovereign]

Glad you posted so interesting to see them 👍

[MickB]

Very interesting to see, cheers 

[watchesandwhisky]

This only reaffirms the fact the Sovereigns are recognizable the world over:)

[ilovesilverireallydo]

I love these. I bought a couple 1gm ones when was out in India. 

I would like to point out, unfortunately that your Saudi Guinea is also a restrike. The “MOM 22” on it indicates it as a jewellery piece  

[HighlandTiger]

On 14/11/2018 at 18:49, h103efa said:

As i mentioned earlier today in another thread (@NRSovereign, @MickB), its often customary (indian heritage) to receive gold (jewellry and coins) during weddings or birth of children.

 

I wish the UK had the same custom, it'd be a darn sight better than receiving , towels, toaster or a box of pampers.

[lightjaw]

11 minutes ago, HighlandTiger said:

I wish the UK had the same custom, it'd be a darn sight better than receiving , towels, toaster or a box of pampers.

I am trying to do this for my kids. My daughter got a 1oz 9ct heart and my son a 9ct Lego brick. Like the idea of them having assets in physical form. Been buying/ having them jewellery made from birth too.

It might sound stupid but I think of the Jews who couldn't escape Germany as they didn't have assets to sell or use as bribes. I see it as a get the hell out of dodge card should they or their children ever need it.

Edited June 1, 2019 by lightjaw

[h103efa]

1 hour ago, ilovesilverireallydo said:

I love these. I bought a couple 1gm ones when was out in India. 

I would like to point out, unfortunately that your Saudi Guinea is also a restrike. The “MOM 22” on it indicates it as a jewellery piece  

Cheers, yep realised yesterday after looking at ngc graded ones on interweb! 

Probably reflecting back I think the jeweller checking said it was as a re strike. With current gold prices I might visit hgm and covert all these "fakes" to a real sov or 2. But in do like the weirdness of these Indian and Middle East real gold fakes! 

[ilovesilverireallydo]

3 minutes ago, h103efa said:

Cheers, yep realised yesterday after looking at ngc graded ones on interweb! 

Probably reflecting back I think the jeweller checking said it was as a re strike. With current gold prices I might visit hgm and covert all these "fakes" to a real sov or 2. But in do like the weirdness of these Indian and Middle East real gold fakes! 

If selling pm me, may be interested in a couple and would pay 1% over HGM rates no probs 

[h103efa]

8 minutes ago, ilovesilverireallydo said:

If selling pm me, may be interested in a couple and would pay 1% over HGM rates no probs 

Will do mate. 

[h103efa]

Post revisited!

We have a upcoming family wedding. A small affair due to current goverment guidelines, but it meant some more of these "comedy" jewellery gold sovereigns (fake sovs, real gold) came out of the family woodwork. Soon to be re-gifted to other family members. There's probably a few real full and half sovs in there too?

I tried to show the thinness between the 1g, 2g and half sovereign sizes!

 

Edited August 19, 2020 by h103efa
duplicate photo removed

[Prophecy]

3 hours ago, h103efa said:

Post revisited!

We have a upcoming family wedding. A small affair due to current goverment guidelines, but it meant some more of these "comedy" jewellery gold sovereigns (fake sovs, real gold) came out of the family woodwork. Soon to be re-gifted to other family members. There's probably a few real full and half sovs in there too?

I tried to show the thinness between the 1g, 2g and half sovereign sizes!

 

Can you not ask for genuine sovereigns? If I received fake wedding gifts I'd be pissed. Imagine getting a fake Kitchen Aid haha

[h103efa]

38 minutes ago, Prophecy said:

Can you not ask for genuine sovereigns? If I received fake wedding gifts I'd be pissed. Imagine getting a fake Kitchen Aid haha

Gold is the gift, not what it looks like. As i explained earlier, most givers dont know about sovs etc, they just look to gift a weight of gold. They buy from jewellers, they wouldnt even know about bullion dealers etc. 

[Prophecy]

15 minutes ago, h103efa said:

Gold is the gift, not what it looks like. As i explained earlier, most givers dont know about sovs etc, they just look to gift a weight of gold. They buy from jewellers, they wouldnt even know about bullion dealers etc. 

I guess as long as they aren't sold brass all good !

[dicker]

The 1958 looks genuine enough (on my iPhone screen anyway)

Best

Dicker

[HGr]

6 hours ago, h103efa said:

Post revisited!

We have a upcoming family wedding. A small affair due to current goverment guidelines, but it meant some more of these "comedy" jewellery gold sovereigns (fake sovs, real gold) came out of the family woodwork. Soon to be re-gifted to other family members. There's probably a few real full and half sovs in there too?

I tried to show the thinness between the 1g, 2g and half sovereign sizes!

 

Why are they between your teeth? Were you checking for authenticity? 

[Prophecy]

6 hours ago, HGr said:

Why are they between your teeth? Were you checking for authenticity? 

If those aren't teeth then what the hell are they!?

[h103efa]

11 hours ago, Prophecy said:

If those aren't teeth then what the hell are they!?

Bumpy Groove edged jewellry boxes with pink sponge/cotton wool inside of them!

[Prophecy]

22 hours ago, h103efa said:

Bumpy Groove edged jewellry boxes with pink sponge/cotton wool inside of them!

That was going to be my second guess... naturally🤣

[sstrrs]

On 01/06/2019 at 09:39, lightjaw said:

and my son a 9ct Lego brick

Just imagine, a lego brick that brings as much joy to your heart as it does pain to your foot every time you step on it.

[LawrenceChard]

On 14/11/2018 at 18:49, h103efa said:

As i mentioned earlier today in another thread (@NRSovereign, @MickB), its often customary (indian heritage) to receive gold (jewellry and coins) during weddings or birth of children.

Some of the gold received is often in the style of sovereign coins but are not actually real sovereigns, just gold copies. The reason is people just buy for the gold weight, they dont know or care that it is in the form of a sovereign look.

Here is a selection of such coins we have received as gifts. They have been verified as real gold by a jeweller friend of ours. Also ive put a photo of a Full Arabic guinea we received for your interest.

Coins are shown in order of weight
Top ~1g (1/8 sov)
2nd row ~2g (1/4 sov)
3rd row ~4g (1/2 sov)
Bottom ~8g (full sov)

All quite entertaining, but it is astounding how many people who own these think they are genuine...

... and there is at least one well-known dealer who might not know the Saudi Guinea is fake.

😎

[LawrenceChard]

On 14/11/2018 at 20:55, watchesandwhisky said:

This only reaffirms the fact the Sovereigns are recognizable the world over:)

These are hard to recognise as sovereigns!

😎

[LawrenceChard]

On 01/06/2019 at 08:30, ilovesilverireallydo said:

I love these. I bought a couple 1gm ones when was out in India. 

I would like to point out, unfortunately that your Saudi Guinea is also a restrike. The “MOM 22” on it indicates it as a jewellery piece  

 

On 01/06/2019 at 10:00, h103efa said:

Cheers, yep realised yesterday after looking at ngc graded ones on interweb! 

Probably reflecting back I think the jeweller checking said it was as a re strike. With current gold prices I might visit hgm and covert all these "fakes" to a real sov or 2. But in do like the weirdness of these Indian and Middle East real gold fakes! 

"Restrike" is a euphemism, for fake!

https://www.chards.co.uk/blog/restrike-gold-sovereigns-and-other-coins/168

😎

[LawrenceChard]

On 01/06/2019 at 08:35, HighlandTiger said:

I wish the UK had the same custom, it'd be a darn sight better than receiving , towels, toaster or a box of pampers.

You didn't get a Chards Mystery Box did you?

https://www.chards.co.uk/chards-xmas-mystery-box/15477

😎

On 19/08/2020 at 15:36, dicker said:

The 1958 looks genuine enough (on my iPhone screen anyway)

Best

Dicker

Never trust an iPhone!

😎

[LawrenceChard]

On 19/08/2020 at 13:34, Prophecy said:

I guess as long as they aren't sold brass all good !

They could be "Abyssinian Gold"

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