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2 hours ago, DoubleEagle said:

Do you like the Oyster style bracelet, or the Jubilee style? I have had and like both.

Here's Oyster style Hamilton.

I found on UK site here: https://www.firstclasswatches.co.uk/hamilton-mens-khaki-field-auto-40mm-swiss-made-h70595133-p-38152/

 

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Yes I prefer the oyster over jubilee, that is a beautiful watch

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So, thinking of investing in a watch.     Thought would be as good to post here rather than a new thread.

rolex is the make that everyone knows and respects.  But open to other makes    So for £6k odd. Which watch would people recommend?

cant say it would be an everyday wear but would be something that I would like to leave for my son.

looked at some of the resale sites and some are more expensive than buying new is that because they have gone up in value or that the site is adding a fair profit

advice gratefully received  

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If looking to invest, at that price point a Rolex is a sure winner. Some Rolex watches especially the Sub, Sea Dweller and the new Daytonas are going above retail as you just can't get them at the AD without a place on the waiting list...

A good quality Sub maybe even a vintage one in a full set (especially if it's in great shape with a Tritium dial) might be a good 1st investment. Pre 1990 rollies seems to still be cheap-ish but with a T<25 dial will surely appreciate nicely as an investment.

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Rolex are pretty much the best known watch to hold their money dependent on model. But that is currently - right now if you want certain stainless steel models you have to pay over the retail price on the resale sites like chrono24 - or have a good relationship with the Authorized Dealer (usually a case of buying lots of the slower selling watches, being put on a waiting list and waiting for a call) This has not always been the case and probably will not always be the case. 

Personally I could not be doing with all that so bought 2 omega watches (planet ocean and a seamaster 300. They dont hold their value as well as rolex, but if you buy used (and many are mint never worn) this can go in your favor. 

Seriously consider used, for instance im currently selling a mint condition 2016 omega planet ocean XL, serviced in fab last year by omega and boxed with all paperwork. for a third less than retail.

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2 hours ago, Cornishfarmer said:

So, thinking of investing in a watch.     Thought would be as good to post here rather than a new thread.

rolex is the make that everyone knows and respects.  But open to other makes    So for £6k odd. Which watch would people recommend?

cant say it would be an everyday wear but would be something that I would like to leave for my son.

looked at some of the resale sites and some are more expensive than buying new is that because they have gone up in value or that the site is adding a fair profit

advice gratefully received  

Not sure if your wanting to invest in a watch or to buy something as an heir loom? 

Or maybe you could do both, buy 2 at about 3000 each, one for wearing and keep the other unworn on a winder. Some decent omega, breitling, Tudor watches for 3k, id stay away from the lower end in the premium watch market like tag heuer, nice to wear but i doubt you would ever make a decent return on selling it (ive owned 2 tags and made no profit at all when selling them, where as ive sold an omega for double what i paid for it and i wore it almost daily) 

Another good one is if you could buy a premium none working watch at a low price then make a project getting it working again and making it sparkle, you would just need a specialist for the movement and seals etc. 

 



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If buying used and your wanting to sell it at some point then original box and papers are a good idea as well 

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45 minutes ago, trp said:

@Cornishfarmer, I’d recommend Patek Philippe. Entry level models are a little more then some other brands, the right models appreciate very well. 

Ive been on the waiting list for close to 4 years now for a aquanaut and probably will not get one in the next 4. Absolutely no chance of someone getting on the list now unless your going to drop 50k and upwards on a bunch of overpriced jewellery to get on the ADs good books.

 

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@MrGeorge, some of those particular models are pretty pricey - though not as bad as a Grand Complication. May I ask which list you are on? There are several good models in the Aquanaut series I have seen (depending on which you are after) starting from just over £10,000 - though they are second hand. 

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1 hour ago, R2DANIO2 said:

Another good one is if you could buy a premium none working watch at a low price then make a project getting it working again and making it sparkle, you would just need a specialist for the movement and seals etc. 

 



That's how i got into vintage Omegas, some major deals to be had. I bought my first Flightmaster for 300€, another 300€ later I have a 3k€ watch...

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I noticed this in a shop window, anyone know what it is?

I suspect it’s one of the earlier Rolex Daytonas. Or maybe just called a chronograph? A quick search from the internet found some old Daytona models for a very high price, I couldn’t seem to find one with a round bezel like this though.

I wouldn’t be surprised if this had a price tag close to or over £100k (not in my price range for a watch, but nether the less a very interesting piece with history)

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1 hour ago, trp said:

@MrGeorge, some of those particular models are pretty pricey - though not as bad as a Grand Complication. May I ask which list you are on? There are several good models in the Aquanaut series I have seen (depending on which you are after) starting from just over £10,000 - though they are second hand. 

Laings in glasgow, 5167A there around £15k new and sell for at least £10k over retail. Its the older models you see for cheaper that no one really wants.

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24 minutes ago, MrGeorge said:

5167A

😬 Yup I know the one, most of the ones I’ve seen have been +£30k. Feel free to message me exactly what it is you are after as sourcing things for people is pretty much what I do, if I know the specifics I can keep an eye out for you. 

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For a budget of around £6k I would consider one or more of the following if buying new:

Tudor Black Bay 58

IWC Portugieser Chronograph - the new one with in-house movement and display caseback

Tag Heuer Monaco - possibly the new one with the 02 movement

Omega Seamaster

Rolex Oyster Perpetual 39

Any Farer Automatic Chronograph or World Timer

Maybe a Nomos - quirky things, not to everyone's taste but I like some of them

In essence, I would buy the watch(es) I like and then just enjoy wearing them!

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10 hours ago, Cornishfarmer said:

looked at some of the resale sites and some are more expensive than buying new is that because they have gone up in value or that the site is adding a fair profi

Ooh good question. Some older models are popular. Also some sellers mark the used ones higher than what they will sell them for as well.And then again some are simply too expensive all of the time. You need  watch to figure out if the price is a firm one, or if they actually expect haggling.

When you say invest in a watch, Rolex comes to mind right away. Any Rolex. Whereas with many other brands you would want certain models.

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Go for a rolex. It will last and is something great to pass on. Do your research though. For that price maybe an explorer, air king or milgauss? Its a real shame you can’t buy a ceramic steel sub for that kind of money now as it’s such an iconic watch

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