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Living here I feel a sense of socialised affection for the city is in operation, what with all the "❤ London" stickers on people's cars, social media posts saying how "gorgeous" the sunset is on the dingy grey London skyline, and the force feeding of how wonderful the overrated diversity is in the city.

I think the place is grey, it's packed with people like sardines, it smells bad, it's crime ridden, it's pretentious, it's priced to the moon, and I don't get really excited about the diversity thing - if the population is rude and impersonal, what do I care about how ethnically diverse those rude and impersonal people are? So what's left? Loads of 'trendy' coffee shops? Meh.

I realise things like these are in the eye of the beholder, and perhaps I'm more cut out for a rural life, but am I missing something? Can anyone with a different point of view (maybe with one of those ❤ London stickers) explain why it is great living here today?

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It's just about okay to visit for day trips and travel outside rush hours... I've travelled daily to London too much to enjoy the city.

I like the parks, Borough Market, South Bank, Camden Market, other markets, Brick Lane for a meal.  Worked in 'The City' and Westminster rather than the West End...

Don't like Leicester Sq, Covent Garden and don't go when there are too many tourists.

 

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I think London is a great place to live...   for a little while. I moved from living just outside Toronto to living in central London back in 2008. I loved living there the first couple of years but burned out and enjoyed the last two years a lot less. Some of the positives - it is a great place to network and meet people. Most people who are there are not from there and usually feel quite lonely so are looking for folks of like mind to get together with. This works both professionally and socially. The life of the city can be a lot of fun if you throw yourself in to. I loved that there was always something going on. The city also allows for things to be much more accessible and in reach - you often don't have to travel far to find what you want/need. Culturally important destinations are pretty much everywhere and usually free to visit - Natural History Museum and the British Museum were always great places to spend an afternoon. There are a lot of really nice - I'd go as far as to say beautiful - and quiet places in the city. Holland Park was a favourite of mine. Exchange Square which is close to where I used to work was another real favourite.

The above being said I really wouldn't recommend London as a place to live to many people. It is good to be there for a while but it is an easy environment to burn out in. When I was there I pretty much worked all the time and when I wasn't working I was out drinking with co-workers and random people we seemed to gather up along the way. It was fun for a while but that lifestyle becomes a problem quickly. I also found myself focusing more on the negative aspects of the city you mention above as opposed to what I liked about it so left. I live in quite a rural location now and am much happier overall though I miss the buzz and excitement every now and then.

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I grew up in London. I’m proud to be a Londoner. For young people it’s an excellent place to live - vibrant with lots to do. 

But we moved out 7 yrs ago to a smaller, quieter and prettier part of the world. Economic reasons made us sell up, getting more for our money elsewhere.

I still commute into London every day so feel I have the best of both wolds  

 

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When I graduated 2000 joined IT outsourcing company with my base office in Manchester but the majority of the decent projects were in London so I moved to London into a brand new 4 bedroom detached house purchased by friends of the family and the elderly couple who I moved in with had no kids to work as IT Graduate and I loved it (22 years old) and on full expenses (travel (included every fortnight back to Manchester via virgin trains)/accommodation /meals). I was only paying £50 per week in rent included all bills and meals and was treated as their own son. I was made redundant 2006 moved back to Manchester and on advice of my late father investment money saved in London into rental properties instead blowing it on a brand new top of the range BMW at the time.

I loved my time in London (even though had 3 hours overground and underground commuting per day) and it is because of the time I spent in London that has allowed me to be mortgage and debt free now. Everyone's circumstances different and unique. At this juncture in my life I would not want to move and work in London (not a young 20 year old anymore) and have settle down with family enjoying spending time with my 2 year old son and I work from home as often as I can.

London brilliant and very enjoyable if all you are doing is visiting friends and family 3 or 4 times a year which is my case.

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been living in London for the last 8 years  running my own business and I can't wait to be able to get out and move to the countryside.

it is a great place to work and study, full of opportunities, if you are a young hard working person and want to do well in life London is the place for you, but there comes a time that you are sick of it and no matter how much money you are making,  you just want to get out and that's me right now.

I think it's an awful place for kids and teenagers to grow, education system is terrible, I do not know what they are teaching these kids at school because when you talk to them they can't even form a sentence and that's embarrassing.

yes there are some good things about London as well, shopping centres, musuems , public transport, very multi cultrual etc but the quality of life is really bad.

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I absolutely love the place. One of my favourite cities.

I don't live there but me and the wife try to spend one weekend per month down there to coincide with the monthly meeting of a club I belong to. Granted, I only go as a "tourist" but my first purchase following a lottery win would be a place in London. She likes Camden, I prefer Soho.

It seems to me that people who live there don't make the most of what's on their doorstep. 

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I've lived in London for 7 years now and I honestly hate it now. At first it was an adventure, and I initially came here to study. But the misses' mum lives here and shes reluctant to move away. We cant ever afford to buy here so we don't really have any choice but to leave, and I couldn't be happier about that.

It wasn't actually a very good place to be a student at all. Its far too big and everything is miles away from each other. 20 miles in London is a two hour journey easily. Plus, when I was studying there was no night tube, so getting home after a heavy sesh was awful.

Now that I'm a professional I am forced to interact with the rudest and most inconsiderate group of people you will ever meet; the rush hour commuter. I actually despise 50% of people who use the tube in the mornings. 

This place is not what I imagined. London being such a draw for all peoples has suffered from importing the less admirable qualities of other cultures and the place is now full of inwardly looking people who only think of themselves. Queue? What queue? Elderly or pregnant lady needs a seat? Forget about it. 

 Wow, that was a rant and a half, maybe I needed to get that out of my system!

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Love the place, spent near 15 years living there and work there another 7.  I can use another office now and I dont care enough for the commute, but when i go up i really do miss the place.  The pace, the hustle, the building and layout, the history. I wouldn't want to raise kids in central or northern boroughs, (hence moving out) but i'd live there again if i could. Only down side is the ridiculously priced property, a mid-terrace in old working class area half a million or more, 1 bed flats in ex-authority blocks for £300k?  Bonkers. 

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As many others have mentioned the costs can be daft (housing is a joke) the tourist areas are a test of patience so I avoid them whenever possible and I will only go there if work demands it. Many view London as certain specific areas. There are plenty of places that are reasonably quiet (Depending on your perception of quiet). It does have crime but what big city doesnt?

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Like any big city, its great for when you are young, dumb and full of c-u-m.

When you're a bit older and especially if you have a family then there are other considerations to take on board.

 

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I find london a great place to visit as a tourist but never had any desire to move there myself. Coming from Manchester I’m a bit envious of the infrastructure and continued investment in the city when so many other cities desperately need it. I have friends and family who have lived and worked there, some love it some hate it, guess it’s one of those marmite kind of places!

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I've been working in London now for the past eleven years and had a six year stint over 20 years ago as well. As I get free travel on the railway and can come and go as I please, I tend not to bother that much visiting on days off. I prefer the countryside as crowded tube trains don't appeal to me as well as catching a peak time train to get home. I don't mind the odd visit to London once in a while. I have promised my wife that one day we'll spend a day as tourists visiting the sights which tourists from abroad would visit but I probably take London for granted and not get too excited, unlike my missus who loves seeing the sights.

 

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London is a great place to visit - less to to live in. 

Now in my 40’s I work in London but don’t like living in London

There is a magic to it when you are in your twenties and I think it wears off after that. Well for me anyway!

 

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Tonight I went to the Tower of London to see the; 'Beyond the Deepening Shadow' display and I have to say that I was impressed in the way it was organised.

I managed to get a couple of tickets for the moat walkabout, that soon after had all sold out for every remaining day.

I said I probably take London for granted but when events like this come around, you can't beat London for putting on a great display. It is quite moving if you take in the atmosphere. I'm glad I went.

London has the history, the sights, tourism & public transport that makes it easy to get around. Great place to go but for me, the crowds is something I could do without.

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On 05/11/2018 at 19:15, dicker said:

London is a great place to visit - less to to live in. 

Now in my 40’s I work in London but don’t like living in London

There is a magic to it when you are in your twenties and I think it wears off after that. Well for me anyway!

 

I agree with your sentiment.

I was a student in London (Imperial College) from 1993 to 1996 and had the good fortune to live in halls of residence on Exhibition Road in South Kensington. I could see the Natural History Museum, Science Museum and V & A from my bedroom window and my degree award ceremony was held in the Albert Hall.

It felt like the centre of the world to a backward Cumbrian and I would walk around the famous sights for hours every weekend. You could almost feel the history. Lots going on at that time too, great live music most nights (the height of Britpop - not all good), the fag end of the IRA bombing campaign, Euro 96 and Prince opening a purple based clothing shop in Camden!

I still get a buzz and very sentimental whenever I visit, but the thought of working there never appealed.

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8 hours ago, dicker said:

May I humbly suggest that the Ceremony of the keys at the Tower of London is very special experience. Google it.  

Tickets are free but fully booked up to a year in advance. Best get my name down now.

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There are pros and cons to everything. Honestly, London has a lot going for it:

You will be hard pushed to find anywhere else where you can get so much choice in good quality, reasonably priced restaurants. Food is life.

There is a lot of open spaces in the parks and commons. Except East London, which is a $h1thole.

There is a lot you can do for free or very little cost. Not everything you do in the city has to cost an arm and a leg. Museums, etc. 

There are a lot charities you can get involved in, if you believe that helping others is something fulfilling and rewarding.

The density of population means that if you want, you can always find groups with common interests. For example went on a local NCT course and girls now spend a lot of their maternity time doing common stuff. It would be hard to get that sort of thing going if you live in a small rural area.

One of the ironies of life is that the more choices you have, the more narrow your tastes tend to become and the less you make of the opportunities in front of you. I do feel that is one of the paradoxes of living in a big city, most people simply go about their daily business. You are not going to change who you are just by living in or out of London.

 

 

 

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29 minutes ago, dicker said:

Pleasure Mick. You are going at just the right time - very atmospheric in the winter, and you get to go to the beefeaters bar which is an added bonus!

 

all the best

dicker

My dad was a Grenadier Guard who has carried out the ceremony of the keys back in the late sixties as the sentry. He carried out quite a few ceremonial duties as well as a few tours of Northern Ireland and loved every minute of it.

There's a saying; 'Once a Grenadier, always a Grenadier', and that sums him up.

I should add that although he loved his time in the Guards, as a kid, I was never once taken to see any ceremonies in London like trooping the colour or even visited Buckinham Palace. All the stuff that tourists love to see I missed out on. Tight git he was.

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