Most consumer safes are garbage and can be opened in seconds

[ilovesilverireallydo]

 

[SILVERFINGER]

Blimey lol, still better than nothing I suppose, just.

[Roy]

Still got to get past the dog first ?

@Bullionbilly knows about locks/security 

[Bullionbilly]

Bloody hell.... no words ?

[Bullionbilly]

18 minutes ago, Roy said:

Still got to get past the dog first ?

@Bullionbilly knows about locks/security 

Even i have no way around that ! 

Just googling police trained Alsatians ? 

[ilovesilverireallydo]

My dog would roll over and ask the thieves for a cuddle first...

[Roy]

Ah...dog hairs, the forensic's favourite. 

Clever ?

[JohnA]

I have a cheap safe. A little smaller than that. I emptied it and put stuff somewhere else. But I have it screwed to the floor from the inside. The batteries went dead and I can't find the emergency key.  At least it's empty and out of the way in my closet.

[Martlet]

Convinces me more that simple key based safes are preferable.  

[AuricGoldfinger]

Those safes look the part but aren’t eurograde, you really need to invest in a dudley or chubb eurograde safe for it to really do its job!

[vand]

https://youtu.be/JMKQVPV1pf0?t=1m21s

[AuricGoldfinger]

I stayed here recently and they have a bar in the unused safe deposit vault. Seriously cool and think you would need more than a few second to get through that door! Unfortunately there wasnt a lock in

[dicker]

As the Ned...interesting place.  Not far away there is a bar with a walk in safety deposit vault. Sadly not used any more. 

[StackerNoob]

4 hours ago, AuricGoldfinger said:

 Unfortunately there wasnt a lock in

I see what you did there ?

[AuricGoldfinger]

32 minutes ago, StackerNoob said:

I see what you did there ?

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[DrKarlMoneys]

Ah, nice to find someone nearly as paranoid as me! I've warned about this myself as the storage questions pops up semi routinely here and I've been weighing my options as well. It seems that old school purely mechanical safes would be more secure than fancy electronic ones. Some safes are so alarmingly trivial to get into that I really think trading standards should get involved as it's a real consumer rights issue. It's even worse in the US as people may also use them for storing firearms. In the meantime I think it's important to educate people so they're not putting their faith and hard earned cash in something which is not fit for purpose.

Obviously locks can be picked but as someone who does lockpicking as a hobby I know that you'd need special tools and skills to open them. Even if you had a proficient lock picker a decent mechanical lock would still slow them down and that's ultimately what the safe's there for-to buy you time. It'd be beyond the ability of a common thief completely. I'd rather take that option over one that can be opened by bashing it with a potato (look it up).

[Goldmick]

Ive got a safe at the shop i work at that was left there when the shop opened. Its so big and heavy that i could no way move it. Its the size of a small fridge lol. And also my flat is about 200 yrds from any road lol. It winds me up not being able to take it home 

[sovereignsteve]

1 hour ago, Goldmick said:

Ive got a safe at the shop i work at that was left there when the shop opened. Its so big and heavy that i could no way move it. Its the size of a small fridge lol. And also my flat is about 200 yrds from any road lol. It winds me up not being able to take it home 

i'm sure if you found a local locksmith they would almost certainly deal in and fit safes. they would move it for you and nail it to the floor as well if you wanted.

it would cost you say £50 - 100 but for a nice secure safe for your PMs, bargain.

[Murph]

Think you'd be lucky to get it for £50.  Years ago you'd have got away with four people lifting an average couple of hundred kilos of safe but health and safety would probably say you can't lift that weight now.

I seem to recall safe shops charging at least £100 to deliver and install even smaller safes that weigh under 100kg.  They also wouldn't install or deliver to anywhere with more than 1 step.

[Blockhead]

On 13/08/2018 at 22:31, Murph said:

Think you'd be lucky to get it for £50.  Years ago you'd have got away with four people lifting an average couple of hundred kilos of safe but health and safety would probably say you can't lift that weight now.

I seem to recall safe shops charging at least £100 to deliver and install even smaller safes that weigh under 100kg.  They also wouldn't install or deliver to anywhere with more than 1 step.

I wonder if this attitude works with thieves nowadays. Maybe they complete a risk assessment before they try to half-inch the safe

[Bullionaire]

8 hours ago, Blockhead said:

I wonder if this attitude works with thieves nowadays. Maybe they complete a risk assessment before they try to half-inch the safe

It's: "try to 1.27cm the safe" these days pal. The thieves have gone metric! 

[Blockhead]

2 minutes ago, Bullionaire said:

It's: "try to 1.27cm the safe" these days pal. The thieves have gone metric! 

Ah, well you've certainly got the measure of me