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jonrms

My Gold and Silver Refining workshop.

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My Workshop is nearly finished!!!! yes that's right, I have more than enough safety gear and new kit that makes me very happy.

I am about to be ordering a NEW furnace thanks to the help of BYB who pointed me in a direction I would not have looked.

I am still in need of a few more things to make my new venture different. I am looking at custom molds, but so far the ones I were pointed to were VERY expensive for what I wanted. Although I guess I know they are there.

I have a new Chemical storage facility, which is vented for safety. And I can continue with my wood working and restoration of my motorcycle and of course my other hobbies. IE RC aircrafts and cars etc.

But now despite having all the chemicals I need. I find myself looking and realising that Nitric Acid is off the list. I am yet to determine a solution or chemical method to dissolve Silver without. I don't know what to do with my left over Silver containers which have been in another storage awaiting the treatment. And all the Silver scrap I have.

So if anyone has any ideas. BESIDES selling it. I would be interested to know. Thank you all again. Jon.

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17 minutes ago, JunkBond said:

We need pictures! 😀

Not yet!!! I still have my sparky coming back to do some more wiring for my fumehood. Also I have my friend who is a mechanic running airlines around the workshop.  And I still need to sort the tempature control out. It might be a full insulation job. 

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I am preying it will be very soon because I have only made 2 quick things in the mist of chasos.... but I am sure you will see these soon

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What is the issue with nitric acid ?
When I was a kid I had bottles of the stuff ( perhaps 500mL ) in my home chemistry set including the concentrated fuming acid in a ground-glass stoppered brown bottle. At school we had litres of concentrated nitric acid and discovered the reaction when we emptied a large quantity down the classroom sinks which had just been fitted with new copper pipes - who would think copper drain pipes in a chemistry lab was a good idea ?

Hydrochloric acid will dissolve silver but only nitric acid will provide a water soluble salt which is what I assume you want.

Oops - sorry for this error - must be the heat of summer !!

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5 minutes ago, Pete said:

What is the issue with nitric acid ?

Nitric acid has (amongst many other useful uses) its purposes in synthesising explosives, which is presumably the reason it got banned. 

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1 hour ago, jonrms said:

I am preying it will be very soon because I have only made 2 quick things in the mist of chasos.... but I am sure you will see these soon

Those who pray and preyed upon -

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38 minutes ago, Pete said:

[...] At school we had litres of concentrated nitric acid and discovered the reaction when we emptied a large quantity down the classroom sinks which had just been fitted with new copper pipes - who would think copper drain pipes in a chemistry lab was a good idea ?

:lol:

 

40 minutes ago, Pete said:

Hydrochloric acid will dissolve silver [...]

No, it doesn't. To the contrary, you can remove patina using hydrochloric acid. But who would want this, unless it is not homogenous.

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Yes Nitric acid is now under licence for buisness.  I am not a buisness and do this as a hobby. 

I know Sulfuric acid will disolve silver as well. 

I want to get it to a state of Silver Chloride and then put it under a UV light. 

Gold is not a issue as it's easier to work with. But I have at least 2 10L buckets to refine of silver from last year. 

The Government's have zero clue, they class things as dangerous when In fact if you know how to use chemicals as a weapon than you will know it's VERY EASY to still make simple things, but moving to firearms which I find funny they banned hand guns, but then allowed long barrel pistols. Under section 1 you can own like me a semi automatic shotgun that can chamber more than 3 shots, below that is a section 2.   But that means I could buy a semi automatic AK47 with a 50/ 100 round drum and under my licence restrictions I could have slugs. Really??? Why??? I didn't buy one, I owned a i pump action with 8 shots. 

Sorry rant over, it just cracks me up.

I am using Potassium Nitrate and HCL ( Poor man's aqua Regia) for gold and silver. Tes ting with a pinch of salt before dropping the gold. 

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What are you processing for the precious metals?  I regularly get hold of lots of old PCs and laptops.  Some working components I sell on but hold on to things like old motherboards, memory sticks, CPUs etc.  Not sure whether to keep stacking them for a project later on or sell them to someone who can process them.

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10 minutes ago, Goldhooked said:

What are you processing for the precious metals?  I regularly get hold of lots of old PCs and laptops.  Some working components I sell on but hold on to things like old motherboards, memory sticks, CPUs etc.  Not sure whether to keep stacking them for a project later on or sell them to someone who can process them.

I have many, It's quite complex and I feel OCD in my methods. 

I disassemble say a pc. I strip the parts into categories such as hard drives cables pcbs etc. I then break them down further, removing all cpu  chips any ML chips etc wires are stripped put in a box ie Cooper,  alloy from heat sinks etc are separated and then I deal with the pins and boards. I take the ram fingers and bag them. I later disassemble the Hard drives. 

Very Labour intensive but it's a hobby for me. I have 2 sheds full of computers all separated. Just waiting to start refining again. 

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22 hours ago, jonrms said:

I have many, It's quite complex and I feel OCD in my methods. 

I disassemble say a pc. I strip the parts into categories such as hard drives cables pcbs etc. I then break them down further, removing all cpu  chips any ML chips etc wires are stripped put in a box ie Cooper,  alloy from heat sinks etc are separated and then I deal with the pins and boards. I take the ram fingers and bag them. I later disassemble the Hard drives. 

Very Labour intensive but it's a hobby for me. I have 2 sheds full of computers all separated. Just waiting to start refining again. 

I’ve done a bit of that.  I have a fair bit of copper and almost a large wheely bin full of aluminium (mostly heat sinks).  I started pulling gold pins, MLCCs and the little crystal diode things but found it too time consuming alongside running a full time business.  For the time being I sell on what I can and make more money that way than the value in metals I could get out of them.  I only tend to hang on to things that nobody wants to buy.

I can certainly see it becoming a hobby later on in life when I have more time.  I do find it very satisfying breaking everything down.

I take it you have seen eWaste Ben from Australia on YouTube?

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