100g Bar - does not get much better than this!

[BackyardBullion]

So, I made two 100g bars today - and when I say 100g, I mean literally 100g. 

My scales are calibrated pretty accurately - to the extent that they read 31.13 grams for 1 oz gold coins. 

But the dilemma that I face is that not everybody's scales will be calibrated like mine. 

The last thing I want as a seller is for someone to get a 100g bar from me, pop it on the scales and it reads 99.98 or 99.99. 

I would love your guys opinions on these bars - what should I do? I was planning to use them as bars for the 2018 100g Silver Forum bars but as above, I don't want to leave anybody short on silver!

Worst case - I remelt them. But it almost seems a shame!

 

[Roy]

Stamp 007 on one and I'll take it  ?

[BackyardBullion]

1 minute ago, Roy said:

Stamp 007 on one and I'll take it  ?

Sounds like an appropriate solution to me!

I thought that you liked my silver because I have you extra! No extra this time though!

[Roy]

Swings and roundabouts...

I've done well so far, I can take it on the chin ?

 

Tbh, it doesn't really matter. These are premium bars and not only worth their weight. I'll be happy either way.

[kimchi]

You need to get a second set of scales bud just to cover yourself imo - be stupid not to  

[BackyardBullion]

Just now, kimchi said:

You need to get a second set of scales bud just to cover yourself imo - be stupid not to  

I have two sets (1 up to 100g and the other up to 200g) and they are both calibrated to the same degree of accuracy, both give the same results.

Interestingly, both these scales were over calibrated by 0.1 grams when I got them. Consistent readings of 31.25 for 1 Oz gold coins and 31.3 to 31.5 for silver 1 oz.

This is why I recalibrate every set of scales I get hold of to within 0.02 of a 1 Oz gold.

[richatthecroft]

28 minutes ago, Roy said:

Stamp 007 on one and I'll take it  ?

And I will take t’other. Not worried what number is stamped on it ?

[kimchi]

15 minutes ago, BackyardBullion said:

I have two sets (1 up to 100g and the other up to 200g) and they are both calibrated to the same degree of accuracy, both give the same results.

Interestingly, both these scales were over calibrated by 0.1 grams when I got them. Consistent readings of 31.25 for 1 Oz gold coins and 31.3 to 31.5 for silver 1 oz.

This is why I recalibrate every set of scales I get hold of to within 0.02 of a 1 Oz gold.

I'd expect nothing less of your careful and professional self, great stuff!

I haven't actually weighed one single piece from yourself, though as you know I've had plenty of your unique artworks from the last few years! I've trusted what you do, and I don't doubt two sets of scales calibrated exactly the same will deliver excellent precision, I just think the level you aspire to (and should/will reach!) you would ideally buy an industry-setting standard to sit alongside t'others. Tanita's are only £70 or so

[BackyardBullion]

Just now, kimchi said:

Tanita's are only £70 or so

Tanita?

[kimchi]

Just now, BackyardBullion said:

Tanita?

Sorry I meant Tanitas.

And to think I used to be an English teacher

[BackyardBullion]

1 minute ago, kimchi said:

Sorry I meant Tanitas.

And to think I used to be an English teacher

I still don't know what Tanita(s) means ?

[Silverhunter]

It's better to have a reputation as supplying above spec rather than the opposite so if there is any doubt that they are possibly underweight redo to keep your standards above expectations the extra 1/2 g per bar is worth a reputation. More importantly what are the tolerances on any weights and measures laws you might need to apply to your products.

[Roy]

 

£11.99 from Amazon ?

[kimchi]

5 minutes ago, BackyardBullion said:

I still don't know what Tanita(s) means ?

'Tanitas' - the gold standard of scales imvho. It sounds like what you have is 100% bombproof for now, but maybe worth a think long-term (?)

Just a suggestion

[Big23]

In Austria we do have a "Eichamt" what translate to "gauging office" (via dict.cc). Every business has to use scales that are controlled regularly by this office.

Don't know how it works in the UK but as long as you have a scale that fits the British Law it's perfect with 100.00g I think. Especially if you have pictures of every bar on the scale...

[Roy]

I don't think the weight is certified? BYB?

Only purity?

[HawkHybrid]

why not stamp it's weight as 99.9g.

 

HH

[BackyardBullion]

11 minutes ago, Roy said:

I don't think the weight is certified? BYB?

Only purity?

I am not aware of any law governing weights relating to silver selling in the UK.

Purity is guaranteed by the assay office, not weight.

[Roy]

Then carry on my friend.

If you say it's 100g, it's 100g.

[BackyardBullion]

This makes for interesting reading.

No restrictions other than complying with trading standards. As long as nobody complains and I get audited things are all good!

Even if I were to be audited it would be fine, I am using suitable and appropriate equipment and have evidence of the weights too ?

https://www.gov.uk/weights-measures-and-packaging-the-law

[sixgun]

Very lovely cooling lines on that bar.

[BackyardBullion]

Just now, sixgun said:

Very lovely cooling lines on that bar.

Plenty more where that came from. I have about 80 of 150 poured so far. 

I am being a very secret squirrel about them, but announcements to be made in July!

Also, I have to start production now because I am on a self made deadline for a trip to the Edinburgh Assay Office!

[caloundracats]

You may find that you do indeed need a Trading Standards set of scales as you are selling a product to the public. They need to be 'approved' and calibrated to your location.

The cheapest ones, if you have to get them are  made for the retail trade by Adam.

https://www.gov.uk/product-labelling-the-law

https://www.gov.uk/government/organisations/british-hallmarking-council/about

 

The ripples are fabulous - you are tempting me yet again!

[caloundracats]

Can I have 008 reserved for me please. You should open a pre-order as not everyone is always around and might miss the announcement, especially those taking holidays.

It's also a question of reputation. As others have said, better to give away a little and be over than under to keep you good name. I'm sure if you or Mrs BYB were to buy an item and it didn't come up to standard or felt short-changed you would say something, get a refund, be a bit miffed.

I'm sure you wouldn't have a problem with forum members but you should consider the wider public. If you say it is 100g, it must weigh no less than 100g on averaging - see government website for details. Not worth risking your reputation for a gram or so, is it? And if you were unlucky to encounter a 'difficult' customer, it could harm your business in the long run thanks to social media. Just my thoughts.

[SILVERFINGER]

Bar reminds me of the molten lava in Hawaii at the moment.