Nazi Silver

[swAgger]

lolll and, simultaneously conflicted, oh dear. I wouldn't use the word comparison and....quick check...whew... i didn't. ? 

As your politicians are very fond of saying over the past year - let me be absolutely clear.....

[SILVERFINGER]

15 hours ago, Jimmock said:

Really am finished with this debate now. ? Main reason being that we could all find and post different links supporting every theory under the sun and what it comes down to is that as individuals,we are all entitled  to believe what we believe, and long may that continue. Mind you interest could be peaked again,if somebody could find a good link to the fact that Nazis were in fact alien spacemen. ?

Its true, they built a base on the moon, it was in the Sunday Sport newspaper

[swAgger]

22 minutes ago, SILVERFINGER said:

Its true, they built a base on the moon, it was in the Sunday Sport newspaper

I heard about that too, wasn't there also an acclaimed documentary "Iron Sky"?

[KDave]

6 hours ago, swAgger said:

lolll and, simultaneously conflicted, oh dear. I wouldn't use the word comparison and....quick check...whew... i didn't. ? 

As your politicians are very fond of saying over the past year - let me be absolutely clear.....

I see now what you mean - discussion and free speech are good, but they should not be free and good at all. Your opinion would be right at home within a totalitarian regime! ?

10 hours ago, swAgger said:

Discussion and debate are all well and good, but there are some things i strongly feel people do not have any rights whatsoever to debate or question

That is why I laughed I thought you were making a joke. ?

[Roy]

Everything should be discussed!

It's interesting that people are suggesting some topics are taboo?

[SILVERFINGER]

19 minutes ago, Roy said:

Everything should be discussed!

It's interesting that people are suggesting some topics are taboo?

Here here,  'Those who do not learn history are doomed to repeat it'  George Santayana, philosopher, essayist, poet, and novelist. 1863 - 1952.

[Roy]

Nothing is taboo.

There are two types of topics, one where you are knowledgable, you talk and people listen.

And one where you know nothing, people talk and you listen.

I do smile though, who knew what a 'Nazi Silver' topic would become?

What about 'Rolf Harris paintings'?

[SILVERFINGER]

1 minute ago, Roy said:

Nothing is taboo.

There are two types of topics, one where you are knowledgable, you talk and people listen.

And one where you know nothing, people talk and you listen.

I do smile though, who knew what a 'Nazi Silver' topic would become?

What about 'Rolf Harris paintings'?

 Oh now you done it, well done thats another can of worms opened.

 

[Roy]

OMG!

[swAgger]

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[swAgger]

1 hour ago, KDave said:

I see now what you mean - discussion and free speech are good, but they should not be free and good at all. Your opinion would be right at home within a totalitarian regime! ?

That is why I laughed I thought you were making a joke. ?

Whatever. Have at it and enjoy yourselves.

[sovereignsteve]

12 hours ago, swAgger said:

but there are some things i strongly feel people do not have any rights whatsoever to debate or question, no matter how educated, entitled, or enlightened we think we are.

seriously?

sounds to me like the "liberal"/"socialist" reaction of shouting opponents down when they dare try to open discussions on topics you don't like. If you disagree with someone just call them fascist, racist, ****phobic etc, just pick one.

I take it you want to be the one who decides what we can all discuss?

[swAgger]

2 hours ago, sovereignsteve said:

seriously?

sounds to me like the "liberal"/"socialist" reaction of shouting opponents down when they dare try to open discussions on topics you don't like. If you disagree with someone just call them fascist, racist, ****phobic etc, just pick one.

I take it you want to be the one who decides what we can all discuss?

I would ask that you not misunderstand my meaning. Or if you did understand my meaning, not to twist it. This topic has not been all harmless and innocent discussion, so don’t try to imply different. The topic is fine. I even liked a post that gave good info on the coinage of the period, and have no objection to anyone having an interest in the coinage (or the period). They’re historical artifacts. And yes, it’s a dark era and needs to be understood and learned from, as someone else said.

You have taken my quote and ran with it as a general disapproval of any discussion of the period. In fact i was referring to some things within such discussions that nobody has a right to put up for debate or question. “some”. And yes i stand by that. Specifically, debating the finer points of whether statistically the holocaust was really all that it was made out to be. Or after all, were they so bad really when you compare and contrast to these other guys. Because it comes across as attempted revisionist. Topics then cease to be about respectful discussion, and instead dive into deliberate baiting. People ask why does this era invoke such emotion and can’t be discussed rationally. It’s because it may begin rationally, but always ends up straying down that distasteful path by some. There is no discussion that should be worth your efforts defending which has within it suggestions to entertain or muse whether a regime got handed an unfair rap, for "discussion" sake. The weight of generations of scholars and historians and most importantly the survivors, is there, and that's the imperative.

[KDave]

I strongly disagree, everything should be open for debate. The truth is more important than hurt feelings, there should be no safe spaces, nothing should be off limits. Steve is correct your position is entirely political.  

 

[FriedrichVonHayek]

4 hours ago, swAgger said:

I would ask that you not misunderstand my meaning. Or if you did understand my meaning, not to twist it. This topic has not been all harmless and innocent discussion, so don’t try to imply different. The topic is fine. I even liked a post that gave good info on the coinage of the period, and have no objection to anyone having an interest in the coinage (or the period). They’re historical artifacts. And yes, it’s a dark era and needs to be understood and learned from, as someone else said.

You have taken my quote and ran with it as a general disapproval of any discussion of the period. In fact i was referring to some things within such discussions that nobody has a right to put up for debate or question. “some”. And yes i stand by that. Specifically, debating the finer points of whether statistically the holocaust was really all that it was made out to be. Or after all, were they so bad really when you compare and contrast to these other guys. Because it comes across as attempted revisionist. Topics then cease to be about respectful discussion, and instead dive into deliberate baiting. People ask why does this era invoke such emotion and can’t be discussed rationally. It’s because it may begin rationally, but always ends up straying down that distasteful path by some. There is no discussion that should be worth your efforts defending which has within it suggestions to entertain or muse whether a regime got handed an unfair rap, for "discussion" sake. The weight of generations of scholars and historians and most importantly the survivors, is there, and that's the imperative.

Nobody is suggesting that certain regimes got a bad rap.

I personally find it strange that  Nazi symbols such as the Swastika are reviled but the Hammer and Sickle or the Red Star are somehow acceptable or less bad than a Swastika.

[Oldun]

I think maintaining a healthy open debate is the very foundation of a world in which we all wish to live. And the ability to listen to others is as valuable a skill as having one’s own opinion and retaining the right to be flexible and see things from the other side. Carry on:)

 

As an aside, I once spent a month surfing without any access to the world other than what was in front of me and when I finally hooked back in, nothing had changed and I had not missed a single thing of any importance......best month of my life ! Scored some nice waves, beers, stories, suntan, smiles and friends along with some epic bbqs :)

 

I applaud everyone on this thread for keeping it civil and interesting.

[Sherabnamdhak]

So on a totally different subject should we not collect Victorian sovereigns minted in South Africa because if I am not wrong WE the British started a wee war with the Boer or Afrikaners and it was us who invented the concentration camp as well. Bad Brits. Lol. 

[JunkBond]

16 minutes ago, Sherabnamdhak said:

Victorian sovereigns minted in South Africa

Pretoria mint was opened in 1923

[FriedrichVonHayek]

43 minutes ago, JunkBond said:

Pretoria mint was opened in 1923

How about Apartheid Kruggerands?

[JunkBond]

1 minute ago, FriedrichVonHayek said:

How about Apartheid Kruggerands?

Yeah, they definitely exist. )

[mondy41]

@PansPurse - this has turned into a straw man argument - I have never heard this expression before very interesting.  I am always intrigued by such things. My new thing for the day

[SILVERFINGER]

50 minutes ago, mondy41 said:

@PansPurse - this has turned into a straw man argument - I have never heard this expression before very interesting.  I am always intrigued by such things. My new thing for the day

 

Here's three more for you that we have a huge problem with in society these days, snowflake generation,  virtue signallers and SJW's  ?

[caloundracats]

Excuse me ignorance but what are SJWs?

 

[PansPurse]

Saint John's Wort, a herb occasionally used as an alternative to antidepressants.

[mondy41]

6 minutes ago, caloundracats said:

Excuse me ignorance but what are SJWs?

 

I think its Social Justice Warrior