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5 minutes ago, JCRJM said:

@sixgun i’m not sure if we live in a matrix or not. Just wondering. In your point of view what is the point in life? Just asking, always interested to here peoples opinion on this. I guess if we were to live in a simulated world there would really be no point to anything i suppose.

You asked and i have done all my trades for today so i have time.....

i have recently started investigating this (so still a lot of work to do)- it is quite compelling as it ties quite a few loose ends off for me.

There is a large body of corroborated evidence to substantiate the accounts given in Near Death Experiences. The consciousness of the person leaves the body. By consciousness you can also read spirit. Example - blind people experiencing Near Death Experiences can see - they are no longer restricted by their physical impediment. They see stuff - they describe stuff that really happened, that is corroborated by independent third parties like doctors and nurses. But how could they see stuff when they cannot see? A genuine investigator would have to treat these accounts seriously.  There are lots of NDE accounts these days. There is so much consistency in abilities like telepathy acquired - knowing what people are thinking and feeling - that is later corroborated.

The second consistent element is they go to another place. They are often greeted by deceased family, friends, pets - loved ones - real or illusions - they are bait i will say. There may be a Jesus or similar figure and there is a warm fuzzy, unconditional love aura to it. There is a light - a tunnel, the doorway. Many will have heard about this type of thing. There is encouragement to agree to go into the light. Those who recover from the Near Death Experience don't go into the light - they come round at some point. They might tell their story.

There is a case of a man with a congenitally deformed hand who had a Near Death Experience. Following the event his hand was 'normal'. There is the case of Anita Moorjani who was riddle with cancer. She had a NDE and her cancer was gone. There are lots of stories. Some inexplicable and corroborated.

There is a widely held belief in certain parts and religions in reincarnation. That when you die you are reborn. It is part of the Hindu religion for example. That you live, you progress hopefully, you become a better person and you are reborn into a higher station in life. If you are reborn this idea is rubbish b/c we are mind wiped. We do not remember our previous lives. We make the same mistakes again. We cannot learn b/c we don't remember what we experienced in the previous lives.

There are examples of people recalling previous lives, some may have phobias tracked back to bad incidents in a previous life. There are accounts recovered from young children of previous lives. Research into these have found likely individual who died who have an injury in the death event. i can think of a man whose fingers were amputated - the child had congenital deformity of the hand. There are examples of birth marks in the same place as the injury. So physical and psychological carryover from a previous life. These cases are looked at by university level researchers and medics - they are looked at seriously and hold together.

There is a body of evidence which if you approach it with an open mind strongly supporting the view that your spirit leaves your body and is reborn into another. Thomas Campbell the author of My Big Toe (My Big Theory of Everything) - a NASA Physicist has had countless OBE - Out of Body Experiences. i have had a couple of these which scared me sh1tless even though i was trying to have them. He talks about the spirit of people going to a transition zone, hanging around, forgetting their previous life and being reincarnated.

As you do not remember one life to the next - as you are mind wiped, there is no point in the life. You are just living. There is no heaven or hell, you just get recycled. So if there is no point why does this happen? Does there need to be a point?

There is a group - i will say i am coming to that view, that we are being exploited. That we are not 'humans' as such, that we are spirits shoe horned into a biological machine with all its restrictions. That we are mind wiped before insertion and then we exist here. That what we see around us is an illusion, a virtual reality. Quantum Physics supports the idea the universe is VR. If we go back to the Gnostics who the early church bent over backwards to exterminate and destroy all knowledge and records of, they believed the creator of our experience and planet was the Demiurge. There is the Demiurge and the Archons. David Icke mentions them. That they feed on low vibrational energy. That this is generated by certain experiences and emotions of the spirit. Icke is seen as a crackpot - he has been right about a lot. He doesn't pluck what he says out of thin air. A lot of knowledge - true knowledge has been buried.

There is a view that we are in a soul recycling plant - we are born, die and then get reborn. That the VR is coded for us to fight to survive. That we are split into opposing groups. The controllers are always doing this - the elite is generally seen as malevolent. If you search youtube for "

A conversation with ex illuminati insider Ronald Bernard and Sacha Stone"

you will hear Ronald Bernard talk about the elite - the 8500 rulers and he says at one point there are non-human entities behind them. The same is said by Icke. The same is said by others.

That feelings is the way things are arranged for us to suffer negative emotions much of the time and we have it easy in the West. Pain, fear, sadness, depression, anger, hate etc. Lots of low frequency vibrational energy being created which the 'Archons' feed on. The system is fixed to bleed us dry - created as much distress as possible. There is more than enough food to feed everyone but millions are starving. There is no need for war but there is endless war. There is no need for us to be divided into endless groups which are in constant conflict but we see it everywhere. We are made ill by poisoned food, air and environment. We are drugged and depressed. Lots of that lovely low frequency energy being generated by the human avatars in the VR farm. Remember there is consciousness and wave energy - that all there is. That some consciousnesses want what we would see as negativity is not surprising.

When the spirit leaves the body in the NDE they describe abilities they never dreamt of. They can know and feel everything. They can experience in different times - they are not limited to linear time. They can experience in different places at the 'same time'. They can see more than the normal visible spectrum. If you look into Quantum entanglement particles widely separated interact. If you do something to a particle in one part of the universe this can be an effect to a particle is another part. The notion would be there is no space - space is an illusion. It seems we have fantastic abilities but we are trapped in this human form with the limitations of our five senses. Our body is like a nackered banger trapping our spirit being - a 12 litre, 18 cylinder, supercharged, intercooled Bugatti engine limited down to 40mph on a good day.

It would seem you can escape this prison planet soul recycling plant and refuse to cooperate. You don't go into the light - you think yourself away - in Out of Body you just think something and it happens. No-one comes back to recount not going into the light - so it is a theory.  

Sounds like crazy sh1t but there is quite a lot of stuff to support much of this. Have good life and don't go into the light when you die. ?

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@sixgun you are a few years behind in your research imvho. But you're on the right track (apart from the quantum physics/entanglement stuff - you only entangle yourself, just as you alone can set yourself free), and you have not got the 'trick' yet when the soul recycling trick comes round, because there are now tens of thousands of reports that there are two lights - the one your doppelganger loved ones take you towards, that leads to the soul-recycling, and the other).

Dr Shumuel Asher (ancient Hebrew learning centre) is pretty decent on this stuff imo. Only a few interviews online, skip the Offplanet radio ones and go for the other two.

Disclaimer: I am not religious at all - that is part of the Matrix.

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24 minutes ago, kimchi said:

@sixgun you are a few years behind in your research imvho. But you're on the right track (apart from the quantum physics/entanglement stuff - you only entangle yourself, just as you alone can set yourself free), and you have not got the 'trick' yet when the soul recycling trick comes round, because there are now tens of thousands of reports that there are two lights - the one your doppelganger loved ones take you towards, that leads to the soul-recycling, and the other).

Dr Shumuel Asher (ancient Hebrew learning centre) is pretty decent on this stuff imo. Only a few interviews online, skip the Offplanet radio ones and go for the other two.

Disclaimer: I am not religious at all - that is part of the Matrix.

i am not behind with my research - i am at the stage i am ready for. i follow what you are saying in your other posts - i guess you are talking about the onset of the Mandel Effect when the universe glitched and rebooted in your lifetime.

Behind? How many others on this forum have much if any clue about what you are saying? i expect you are fit for the funny farm to some with sky gazing and magick. i expect i would not need more than the fingers of one hand on a good day to count those who follow your posts here. So where is everyone else? Are they even in the starting blocks? We take these steps when we are ready and many will never be ready in this or any other life.

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3 hours ago, Paul said:

1. The self-serves were new there, The Asda dude saying do you HAVE to scan your own items was the surprise. The option now, is you have no option and no one will serve you. you are forced to serve yourself, it is only a mini weeny Asda not a full-blown superstore.

How do you cope with petrol stations, being self service for decades?  As it is you've happily gone round the shop to pick up your goods, would you prefer shops return to the era of counter service, the shop keep fetching everything for you?

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2 hours ago, JCRJM said:

@sixgun i’m not sure if we live in a matrix or not. Just wondering. In your point of view what is the point in life? Just asking, always interested to here peoples opinion on this. I guess if we were to live in a simulated world there would really be no point to anything i suppose.

I guess if you could ask a dead person it would be to live.  If you could talk to a person who has been dead for a long time and grant them life they would probably jump for joy.  If there is such a thing a dead person.

Nobody can and nobody knows.  I believe anyone that says they do is lying or just guessing.

 

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15 minutes ago, Martlet said:

How do you cope with petrol stations, being self service for decades?  As it is you've happily gone round the shop to pick up your goods, would you prefer shops return to the era of counter service, the shop keep fetching everything for you?

Indeed. The supermarket killed the High Street. 

No need to ask for 'fork handles' and poor old Granville on his bike. The butcher, the baker and the candlestick maker either went out of business or became specialised (i.e. expensive).

 

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1 minute ago, Roy said:

Indeed. The supermarket killed the High Street. 

No need to ask for 'fork handles' and poor old Granville on his bike. The butcher, the baker and the candlestick maker either went out of business or became specialised (i.e. expensive).

 

The internet and/or robots are probably going to kill the supermarkets.

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Just now, RoughDog said:

The internet and/or robots are probably going to kill the supermarkets.

Agreed. It's already started hasn't it?

The world will shop at Amazon.corp or something similar. All in the name of cost cutting and/or efficiency, because we are 'too busy' to go to the shops lol

I'm like @sixgun, I prefer to choose my own fruit and veg and, although I do buy supermarket meat, I still enjoy a trip to the butchers (and fishmonger depending on where I am) ?

 

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8 minutes ago, sixgun said:

i am not behind with my research - i am at the stage i am ready for. i follow what you are saying in your other posts - i guess you are talking about the onset of the Mandel Effect when the universe glitched and rebooted in your lifetime.

Behind? How many others on this forum have much if any clue about what you are saying? i expect you are fit for the funny farm to some with sky gazing and magick. i expect i would not need more than the fingers of one hand on a good day to count those who follow your posts here. So where is everyone else? Are they even in the starting blocks? We take these steps when we are ready and many will never be ready in this or any other life.

Absolutely right you are, and I am happy to stand corrected (as always), and my apologies for being 'clumsy' - I am sure you are where you need to be :)

I am pretty sure you already know it, and if so don't waste your 'time' like I did! I spent years on a thesis (for personal progression, nothing else) and where it took me (just on instinct, or perhaps rather being in tune) included sending message back and forth across 'time' to myself. Once you see this stuff you don't forget it!

While the 'world' seems to be crashing around us (and I was caught in that pattern with fear and dread for many years while I tried to 'work things out') I believe there can be only one outcome under universal law (set by Source, by its very nature, at the beginning) and that is the return. It will be beautiful, and there is no stopping it now - slipping towards the/a singularity or not, there is a reset coming. And I don't buy that this has always been a 'digital construct'.

I don't look at the skies (I saw all I needed to there about three or four years ago - alas I still know one or two good souls who are transfixed by them).

I definitely do not engage in 'magick'! Never, ever. If one is tune and really working things out 'magic' happens, it becomes almost inevitable. It can never be selfish, it can never be dark (in my experience, but I have never 'played' with the dark stuff and never will) - that is just what I have observed from others.

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15 minutes ago, RoughDog said:

I guess if you could ask a dead person it would be to live.  If you could talk to a person who has been dead for a long time and grant them life they would probably jump for joy.  If there is such a thing a dead person.

Nobody can and nobody knows.  I believe anyone that says they do is lying or just guessing.

 

There is a large body of solid evidence from Near Death and Out of Body Experiences. The evidence is when people have died but miraculously come back to life or died all but the last gasp and come back, they describe leaving their bodies. The evidence is really solid - they recount stuff they just could not have seen, heard, known but for leaving their body AND having telepathic and other psychic abilities. In the same account they describe going to the light - (kimchi is saying there are 2 lights - i am early in this investigation) - but the accounts i have seen there is a light - these 'people' have not gone to the light. They have not been accepted or something has meant they did not get vacuumed up. i do not know what they evidence is they are soul recycled by entering this portal as i have not read into this enough but those who have looked at this are of the opinion they are recycled and reborn this way. There is a large body of evidence to support reincarnation. Not everything is known i bet but i cannot say as i have not done all my research. in any case it is a long way off guessing.

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21 minutes ago, sixgun said:

There is a large body of solid evidence from Near Death and Out of Body Experiences. The evidence is when people have died but miraculously come back to life or died all but the last gasp and come back, they describe leaving their bodies. The evidence is really solid - they recount stuff they just could not have seen, heard, known but for leaving their body AND having telepathic and other psychic abilities. In the same account they describe going to the light - (kimchi is saying there are 2 lights - i am early in this investigation) - but the accounts i have seen there is a light - these 'people' have not gone to the light. They have not been accepted or something has meant they did not get vacuumed up. i do not know what they evidence is they are soul recycled by entering this portal as i have not read into this enough but those who have looked at this are of the opinion they are recycled and reborn this way. There is a large body of evidence to support reincarnation. Not everything is known i bet but i cannot say as i have not done all my research. in any case it is a long way off guessing.

The basic idea is that when you pass there are two lights. Someone (a loved one) will come to you and guide you to one of the two lights. you love them and you trust them, so you go. When you get there you get a thorough grilling going over all the mistakes you made (a trial) and then you're offered a chance to go back to try to be 'a better soul' next time around and 'do things right'. Of course you want to learn your lessons. You're also put near your previous family - who could say no to that? However, you're then mind-wiped and sent back to repeat the same/similar/other mistakes. Hence the soul-recycling.

Clif High says your mind is wiped because you simply couldn't live with all the memories of your past lives and it would fry your brain. I love a lot of Clif's stuff but I think he is 100% wrong on this - the only reason your mind is wiped is to continue the cycle.

 

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I think the reason near death experiences are so similar is because biologically everyone's brains are so similar, they work in the same way, they produce the same results based on the hardware. The brain fires on all cylinders at the point of death - but the experience if you are lucky enough to come back from it is just that - an experience. It may be based on outside influences in part, people hearing the conversations of doctors (hearing is the last thing to go apparently), people seeing what is going on around them (your brain is good at using information to build pictures, look into it). The light thing though, if everyone is 'seeing' that, then its an internal based process. I would rather apply some occams razor and jump to that conclusion than the idea there is a group of aliens behind the event. Ultimately I think it is all in the head.

For example, just because I see a 5 star film and everyone agrees it was a 5 star film, its not proof there is a greater meaning behind the 5 star film. It proves to me that people are wired up in similar ways, our eyes and ears see the same things and our brain processes what we are seeing and makes the same judgement. 

Same applies to everyone having the similar near death experience. All of these people are seeing the same stuff - it is just proof the hardware is the same across the board generally speaking, and we all see the same '5 star event' at the point of death because we all have eyes, ears and our brain processes what we experience in the same way - its a hardware based experience and nothing more.  

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I concur.

Besides the absinthe and the mescaline days, I've also had an out of body experience.

It was 1980, I'd had a motorcycle accident and was in hospital in a coma.

I can remember seeing my mother. I wasn't floating or anything like that but perhaps I was besides her and I could clearly see her face and mine, which wasn't pretty.

I could tell her after what she was wearing.

I could hear music. It was my favourite band- Blondie. I did not see any lights.

I was in a coma for 15 days.

Once I'd recovered enough and was allowed to go home, I discussed this with my family.

I was surprised about a few things. I was correct in what my mother was wearing but it was just her uniform. She worked retail and came to visit before and after her shift. 

At the nurses' request, my mother was asked to bring in some music tapes that they could play to me. She brought my favourite tapes. Blondie.

 

 

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3 minutes ago, kimchi said:

The basic idea is that when you pass there are two lights. Someone (a loved one) will come to you and guide you to one of the two lights. you love them and you trust them, so you go. When you get there you get a thorough grilling going over all the mistakes you made (a trial) and then you're offered a chance to go back to try to be 'a better soul' next time around and 'do things right'. Of course you want to learn your lessons. You're also put near your previous family - who could say no to that? However, you're then mind-wiped and sent back to repeat the same/similar/other mistakes. Hence the soul-recycling.

Clif High says your mind is wiped because you simply couldn't live with all the memories of your past lives and it would fry your brain. I love a lot of Clif's stuff but I think he is 100% wrong on this - the only reason your mind is wiped is to continue the cycle.

Memories cannot be located to any specific part of the brain, (long term memories are stored 'throughout the brain' = code for no idea where they are stored but they must be in the brain or else science starts to go woo woo and we could never have that).
i will question whether memories are in the brain at all. That you can detect activity in parts of the brain when accessing memory does not mean the memories are there, the brain could simply be processing them after download.

If we accept the spirit, memories intact, has flown the body which is dead, was memory ever in the brain.  i will say it wasn't and Clif is making stuff up.

Next.....the 'soul recycling' - reincarnation. There is good evidence to support this happening so let's go with it. This is about making us better soul/people? We have a trial to answer for our sins and then get sent back (mind wiped - aka memory wiped) to do a better job next time. Learning requires you remember and use those memories to affect future decisions. But hey you got mind wiped.  The whole thing falls flat immediately. There is clearly planning, powers beyond that which we can comprehend but those at the helm decide to mind wipe you so you cannot learn from previous mistakes. Your family is there to help and guide you. Did they miss recycling - they decided to miss a trip and act as welcoming party. Next there will be Jesus with his beard trimmed at the right hand. i need to do a shed more research but this bird does not sound like it can fly.

 

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Yes people have what they describe as out of body experiences and it has nothing to do with being near death. If you want a good example of why it is a hardware or rather, a biological event there are plenty of them involving drugs and poisons that interrupt the biological workings of the brain - drugs in particular are very heavily studied and can provide all the research you need to lead you to the conclusion that the brain is a chemistry machine. 

Our ancestors used to eat psychedelic plants and poison themselves with treefrog venom to have these outer body experiences and meet the gods (or the ancestors or whatever). Its not significant that all the people taking them had the same experiences, it is more logical to look at the reason as 'we have all evolved the same moving parts'. Our ancestors didn't know any better, we have many more tools to help us draw our conclusions, scientific method and theory being a good starting point, no fourth dimensional beings required. 

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You are right memories are not located in a part of the brain. It is interesting that people who have had heart transplants are sometimes able to recall memories of the donor accurately. There is a lot about the brain, the body, the workings of cells, DNA and its relation to memory (instinct), we don't understand or know. That doesn't mean we should go looking to the soul as the explanation as first port of call.

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6 minutes ago, sixgun said:

Next.....the 'soul recycling' - reincarnation. There is good evidence to support this happening so let's go with it. This is about making us better soul/people?

Not at all, quite the opposite. The rest of your post I can't accept either (apart from Clif High talking shite!).

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35 minutes ago, KDave said:

I think the reason near death experiences are so similar is because biologically everyone's brains are so similar, they work in the same way, they produce the same results based on the hardware.

There is some logic in this idea.

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The brain fires on all cylinders at the point of death -

i have seen 100's if not 1000's of people die. It would be unusual for their brains to be firing on all cylinders at death. They are usually in a coma.

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The experience if you are lucky enough to come back from it is just that - an experience. 

Well it is an experience - that's why it is called a Near Death Experience.

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It may be based on outside influences in part, people hearing the conversations of doctors (hearing is the last thing to go apparently), people seeing what is going on around them (your brain is good at using information to build pictures, look into it). The light thing though, if everyone is 'seeing' that, then its an internal based process. I would rather apply some occams razor and jump to that conclusion than the idea there is a group of aliens behind the event. Ultimately I think it is all in the head.

Blind people who have NDE often say they could see - they never saw before. I wondered if they see when they dream. Seems they don't. If you have never been able to see before you cannot imagine what to imagine. There experience is not the same as hypoxia - not the same as imagination - not the same as anything other than Out of Body Experience. i have experienced that so i know it happens and that is not like anything i ever had ever experienced before or since. These NDE have many similarities to OBE. People describe stuff they could not have seen or known. You have to look into this stuff completely open minded. Since i got slipped the blue pill whilst not looking my views on almost everything is up for grabs. As i say almost everything we have been told is a lie.

https://www.theepochtimes.com/in-near-death-experiences-blind-people-see-for-first-time_2128726.html

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4 minutes ago, kimchi said:

Not at all, quite the opposite. The rest of your post I can't accept either (apart from Clif High talking shite!).

Well glad we can agree Clif is off beam on this. i am going to dig through lots of NDE accounts and then i will report back. Funny how this thread start off at Asda and then ended up with the Book of the Dead.

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22 hours ago, Paul said:

Speaking of banking, notice how the next push is seriously culling and reducing the number of Link machines here in UK 

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-42872438

Of course, we will be it is "What The People" want "Everyone now Loves contactless and card"

Slowly the push for you HAVING to now start to use the card instead of cash

Tick Tock Tip Toe in we go to the cashless society 

Hey but what I but a bitter old conspiracy theorist and all of this is not preplanned from the start

The cashless society is good for us or so we are told, 

It will make millions of people unemployed. From the staff at royal mint production to everyone associated with the transport packaging and baking of cash like cash office workers.

Anyone associated with Cash machines there production and components. Cash in transit employees the vehicles and equipment used to count weigh and bag money.

The list is endles the knock on effect will be a very big.

Conspiracy theory a secret plan by a group to do something unlawful. The bankers have never done this right ?

If you mention something like this to most folk you are a tin foil hat case. But its ok to talk Bollock* about some stupid soap on TV ?

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