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3 hours ago, Beano said:

Hi im new to stacking, just wanted to know who everyone's trusted online bullion store/stores are? TY in advance for all replies ;)

First rule of buying silver and gold.

Your hard earned money in your wallet, and your own loyalty belong to you and you alone. Stack it to YOUR benefit and nobody else's.

Shop around weighing up the unit prices and shipping (if applicable), then see which dealer does it cheaper. At the moment, that is definitely European dealers such as gs.be and European Mint. If you can pit dealers against one another to get the best deal FOR YOU, then do it.

Also get involved in the forum group buys if you feel the price is good for YOU.

That's who you then give your money to.

Don't forget to always do your OWN research so YOU can understand what's going on to ensure YOU get the best deal for YOU. If you think a deal isn't good for YOU, walk away. Decide what price you are prepared to pay per ounce or per gram and make sure you have the discipline to STICK TO IT. Do not get sucked in to any ebay bidding wars that takes you over that pre set amount you are prepared to pay. Ego and vanity will ensure you fail. Discipline will ensure you only WIN.

Remember, this is YOUR future you are investing in.

Treat it like you are fighting in a war.

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5 minutes ago, LittleJohnSilver said:

First rule of buying silver and gold.

Your hard earned money in your wallet, and your own loyalty belong to you and you alone. Stack it to YOUR benefit and nobody else's.

Shop around weighing up the unit prices and shipping (if applicable), then see which dealer does it cheaper. At the moment, that is definitely European dealers such as gs.be and European Mint. If you can pit dealers against one another to get the best deal FOR YOU, then do it.

Also get involved in the forum group buys if you feel the price is good for YOU.

That's who you then give your money to.

Don't forget to always do your OWN research so YOU can understand what's going on to ensure YOU get the best deal for YOU. If you think a deal isn't good for YOU, walk away. Decide what price you are prepared to pay per ounce or per gram and make sure you have the discipline to STICK TO IT. Do not get sucked in to any ebay bidding wars that takes you over that pre set amount you are prepared to pay. Ego and vanity will ensure you fail. Discipline will ensure you only WIN.

Remember, this is YOUR future you are investing in.

Treat it like you are fighting in a war.

Great advise for someone who said earlier last week they had just taken delivery of their first pieces of silver!

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1 minute ago, BackyardBullion said:

Great advise for someone who said earlier last week they had just taken delivery of their first pieces of silver!

Wow last week? sounds like he's been at it for years :o

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1 minute ago, BackyardBullion said:

Great advise for someone who said earlier last week they had just taken delivery of their first pieces of silver!

Exactly! It's all about the discipline. I think it was one of your videos, another from Another Over Taxed Amercian (or summit like that) and possibly Shadow Stacker's videos discussing how people commencing stacking always tend to make the same newbie mistakes of what they buy as they either haven't learned where to focus their money for maximum effect, or have allowed their initial discipline to be sidelined by vanity.

There was also another youtuber video talking about building the initial foundation stack based on geographical location, but I forget their name.

It's all about the discipline!

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2 minutes ago, LittleJohnSilver said:

Exactly! It's all about the discipline. I think it was one of your videos, another from Another Over Taxed Amercian (or summit like that) and possibly Shadow Stacker's videos discussing how people commencing stacking always tend to make the same newbie mistakes of what they buy as they either haven't learned where to focus their money for maximum effect, or have allowed their initial discipline to be sidelined by vanity.

There was also another youtuber video talking about building the initial foundation stack based on geographical location, but I forget their name.

It's all about the discipline!

I am glad you got something from my videos! I make most of it up as I go along ;)

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1 minute ago, Roy said:

First rule of buying silver and gold - become a Premium member

Haha maybe when i have a few more oz's and i'm a big boy stacker ;)

Just now, LittleJohnSilver said:

Do you have an ebay account?

No i never use ebay

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1 minute ago, Beano said:

Haha maybe when i have a few more oz's and i'm a big boy stacker ;)

No i never use ebay

Get one.

I don't know how these redemption vouchers work or what triggers them but I've only been using ebay since October 2017. During that time I have had 3 £10 redemption vouchers, almost 1 £10 voucher every 2 months. Until I got the silver bug, I generally used such vouchers to get cheaper tools and the like. Now, I will be using said £10 redemption vouchers solely for buying 1 oz coins such as 2018 Brittanias/Maples/Eagles etc for half price. There are plenty of reputable ebay business dealers that specialise in selling 1 oz government minted coins (like the ones previously mentioned) for between £19.99 to £22.99 posted. That £10 redemption voucher allows you to get one of those coins for almost half price. Now imagine you get several of those vouchers each year, you've effectively bought 6 x 1oz coins for the price of 3.

Another angle to maximise your stacking - if you decide to get involved in @BackyardBullion's group buys, namely the one's coming from the European Mint, not only are you likely to get prices matched to gs.be, but if you do an unboxing video and stick it on ye olde youtube, you'll also get a FREE 1/2 ounce coin (I think it's a Shark or something like that - @BackyardBullion can tell you more about that). If these group buys from European Mint pan out like we all hope they will, and there are several during the course of the year, you can earn an extra few ounces per year just from doing unboxing videos.

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4 minutes ago, LittleJohnSilver said:

Get one.

I don't know how these redemption vouchers work or what triggers them but I've only been using ebay since October 2017. During that time I have had 3 £10 redemption vouchers, almost 1 £10 voucher every 2 months. Until I got the silver bug, I generally used such vouchers to get cheaper tools and the like. Now, I will be using said £10 redemption vouchers solely for buying 1 oz coins such as 2018 Brittanias/Maples/Eagles etc for half price. There are plenty of reputable ebay business dealers that specialise in selling 1 oz government minted coins (like the ones previously mentioned) for between £19.99 to £22.99 posted. That £10 redemption voucher allows you to get one of those coins for almost half price. Now imagine you get several of those vouchers each year, you've effectively bought 6 x 1oz coins for the price of 3.

Another angle to maximise your stacking - if you decide to get involved in @BackyardBullion's group buys, namely the one's coming from the European Mint, not only are you likely to get prices matched to gs.be, but if you do an unboxing video and stick it on ye olde youtube, you'll also get a FREE 1/2 ounce coin (I think it's a Shark or something like that - @BackyardBullion can tell you more about that). If these group buys from European Mint pan out like we all hope they will, and there are several during the course of the year, you can earn an extra few ounces per year just from doing unboxing videos.

Thanks for the tip, ill definitely have a look into it. And as for  @BackyardBullion's group buy, i will 100% be taking part in it. I might have to wait though, it falls on the 22nd of April, and i get paid the last Friday of every month which is a bummer :( I've got my eye on some QB Black Bull's B)

And thanks man, i appreciate the time you have taken to pass on some of your new found knowledge in silver :)  

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1 minute ago, Beano said:

Thanks for the tip, ill definitely have a look into it. And as for  @BackyardBullion's group buy, i will 100% be taking part in it. I might have to wait though, it falls on the 22nd of April, and i get paid the last Friday of every month which is a bummer :( I've got my eye on some QB Black Bull's B)

And thanks man, i appreciate the time you have taken to pass on some of your new found knowledge in silve:)  

My increasing knowledge is all thanks to the chaps and chappesses on this forum! All I did was ingest all their existing trials and tribulations!

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Sign up for Premium membership here. You get to see items for sale straight away - you will not regret it. i am not sure how much i have spent here but it is probably £10's of thousands.

You can get silver coins VAT free from Estonia and lower VAT from some other EU countries (it is not VAT free even though they say it is).

A lot here use http://goldsilver.be. i have bought directly. There is a group order Backyardbullion runs. It may work out cheaper for you to join in this if you are only buying a few coins. If you are buying a decent number it is often cheaper to buy direct.

i use transferwise.com or currencyfair.com to change the money if i need.

i also use the price comparison website http://gold.de - you can take a look at different prices around the German dealers.

The UK dealers are often best for gold - http://atkinsonsbullion.com http://hattongardenmetals.com  the various websites of chard in Blackpool. There are other dealers here -

i have bought a few bits off ebay but not that much. i feel confident buying off the forum and the dealers i have mentioned but i am always wary about ebay. i am actually surprised how many post items they have bought on ebay. If you know the ebay seller well then i guess it is fine but then i talk to them off ebay and we do a deal which helps both of us.

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Hi Beano and welcome.

You need to decide what bullion you want to collect, coins, bars, a particular mint, or do you just want to stack as cheap as you can physical ounces..it makes a difference.

i stack (1kilo Pamp bars of silver) but also collect and have numismatic interest in a fair few different coins. There are different markets for each of my indulgences and many places to go to...

The good news for you is that you have found the right place for advice very early on...read, learn and ask, but also do you own research...the forum appreciates people that research for themselves before asking..

Above all, be patient...no decision is usually better than a hasty decision...if in doubt ask the forum members here...

Wish You well..

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One very important thing to bear in mind when comparing prices, whether it's from online dealers or eBay, is the extras.

You've got to check the shipping costs, credit card or PayPal handling fees, and any other fees that might be applied to that base price, then apply that to the order you're thinking of making to see how much you're really going to be paying for each item.

Sometimes a list price that looks cheaper ends up costing more after all the fees are applied.

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I've had 3 orders from Silver-To-Go, all items were shipped quickly and arrived safely, very happy with their service and will definitely be buying from them again. Silver-To-Go charge for postage and 2% Credit Card fees (for which you also get priority service, items in stock if ordered before 4pm are posted the same day), they do not charge VAT on Silver Coins. Just recieved my first order from The Royal Mint Bullion, very happy with the swift service and will be buying from them again too. The Royal Mint Bullion has free postage, no Credit Card fees, but does charge 20% VAT on Silver.

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2 hours ago, Provvidenza said:

I've had 3 orders from Silver-To-Go, all items were shipped quickly and arrived safely, very happy with their service and will definitely be buying from them again. Silver-To-Go charge for postage and 2% Credit Card fees (for which you also get priority service, items in stock if ordered before 4pm are posted the same day), they do not charge VAT on Silver Coins. Just recieved my first order from The Royal Mint Bullion, very happy with the swift service and will be buying from them again too. The Royal Mint Bullion has free postage, no Credit Card fees, but does charge 20% VAT on Silver.

I Have used silver to go once and was really impressed with the price and shipping. I ordered on a Wednesday and got my stuff on the Friday which was amazing (I hate waiting). I've also had some stuff from Bullion By Post and was really really happy with how fast it was and how well everything was packed. The fact it was in the UK was the only downside with the dreaded VAT. I think I'll be sticking to STG as my No1 site. Thank you for the reply, I now have peace of mind about how good STG actually are.

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I wonder if Silver To Go would price match with GS.BE?

Shipping for GS.BE and STG looks to be the same.

Does STG's 2% fee for Credit Card payments also for Debit Card's? Doesn't seem to be clear.



Has @BackyardBullion thought of seeing what these chaps do for group buys? https://www.silver-to-go.com/en/wholesale/

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6 minutes ago, LittleJohnSilver said:

I wonder if Silver To Go would price match with GS.BE?

Shipping for GS.BE and STG looks to be the same.

Does STG's 2% fee for Credit Card payments also for Debit Card's? Doesn't seem to be clear.



Has @BackyardBullion thought of seeing what these chaps do for group buys? https://www.silver-to-go.com/en/wholesale/

Last time I asked they would not price match - in theory we could use them for group orders in the future.

For the moment it is the EU mint, then probably back to GS.be next month.

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I've always been pretty happy with STG and if you speak to them when there's a problem they try to be helpful. I did have a discoloured/toned batch of Perth Roos last time which was strange (as they were brand new coins so the blanks must have been discoloured - never seen that before!) but they were great bullion only prices at the time.

I don't think I'll ever order from Goldsilver again after getting poor premium coins a few times. On my blacklist along with Bullionbypost.

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