**January 2018** Group order from European Mint!

[BackyardBullion]

Hello everyone - Welcome to the JANUARY 2018 Group Order from

https://www.europeanmint.com/

PLEASE READ THE FOLLOWING CAREFULLY AS IT CONTAINS IMPORTANT INFORMATION ABOUT JOINING THIS ORDER.

Also, if you are interested in joining this order please "follow" this thread so as and when I have updates I can more easily share them. 

Disclaimer

Joining this group order is at your own risk. Please make sure you read the following carefully. I (Backyard Bullion) cannot take financial responsibility for lost/damaged items that are part of this order. By joining this group order you agree to this. 

What is the group order all about?

This group order is a way to combine shipping costs for buying silver from Europe. We pay drastically less for our silver because we essentially do not pay VAT. I organise these orders so that people can get cheap silver but also so that I can unbox a large quantity of silver for my YouTube channel. It helps grow my social media, my BYB brand and my reputation within the community.

You may have noticed that we have changed dealers. Previously we have used a Belgian dealer but as https://www.europeanmint.com/ are actually cheaper on most items and have significantly better shipping and customer services it makes sense to use them. 

I have also personally visited their offices and met the manager. I have very high confidence in their ability to do business with the forum members as part of these group orders. 

If you would like to see the videos where I went to Estonia to meet them then please check out the following VLOG and interview:

https://youtu.be/TILyhBWbaoU

https://youtu.be/Ly6kqrsMli4

How will the order work?

The way this works is simple. You will decide what you want by looking at their website and send me a shopping list of what you want. I will send you a screen dump of the basket and total on their website and then I will send you another screen dump from www.transferwise.com showing the conversion and total in £. You then send this via PayPal F&F or Banks transfer and as soon as I get the funds I will pull the trigger with https://www.europeanmint.com/

When to order and pay Backyard Bullion?

I will only be placing orders on the weekend. I will not be able to place orders mid week unless there are extenuating circumstances. This is simply because I am a busy person and organising and keeping track of these orders is difficult. Feel free to send me your shopping lists during the week but understand that I will not be able to lock it in until the weekend - this is just the way it has to be so be aware that prices may fluctuate in the run up to the weekend. I would rather do it like this than potentially forget or miss recording orders and making mistakes. 

Deadlines & Timelines for this order

The order will close on Sunday 21st January @ 8pm UK Time You will need to have got funds to me by then if you would like to order anything. 

I estimate that I will receive the order by no later than 28th January meaning I can get things posted out to you in the week commencing 29th January. Please note this is an estimate and may change. 

Shipping costs & Share of international postage. 

With our previous Belgian dealer, shipping was free if the order was more than €5,000. There was a reason for this - they used cheaper and less reliable shipping providers. European Mint uses the likes of FedEx/TNT/UPS etc. which will be more expensive but provides a much better quality of service and peace of mind. So there will be a share of shipping for people joining the order. Overall thought this will be offset but the cheaper base cost of the coins that the European Mint offer. Also, I have arranged an exclusive 20% off for shipping for this group order so I am confident this will be cheaper than any other dealers in Europe. 

Including the discount their weight/price thresholds are therefore as follows:

Weight	EU	VAT	Total
under 500g	€ 16	€ 3.20	€ 19
500g - 1kg	€ 24	€ 4.80	€ 29
1kg - 2kg	€ 32	€ 6.40	€ 38
2kg - 5kg	€ 48	€ 9.60	€ 58
5kg - 10kg	€ 72	€ 14.40	€ 86
10kg - 20kg	€ 112	€ 22.40	€ 134

Individually we will all pay a % of the total shipping cost based on the value of your individual order. So if your total is £170 and the total value of the order is £5000 you would pay your % (3.4%) of the shipping - which for this size order would likely be €86. This would work out to be €2.92 - as you can see a very small amount in extra shipping. This total will be paid for after the order has closed. 

I will keep an eye on the shipping weight and if we are close to a certain threshold I might advise that some orders be shipped separately or held for future group orders.  

How do I get my coins from Backyard Bullion?

You will have to pay for onwards postage and packaging from me to you. We will sort out the onwards postage and packaging once the order has been completed. Onwards shipping is at your choice and risk via Royal Mail. It is at this stage that we will sort out the share of international postage. Please note that the maximum that you can send via Royal Mail Special delivery for a decent price is 2kg (about 55 oz) . If you would like to order more than this please get in touch to discuss shipping options.  

Is it worth it to join?

Yes - The European Mint is cheaper by quite some margin than the other bullion dealers. Some of their coins may be more expensive (the more collectable type coins) but certainly not by much. A prime example is with Britannias where The European Mint is about 70p cheaper per coin. Even with the additional costs of shipping it is still cheaper! Plus you get a much better quality of service and shipping provider. 

Another reason to join the more you buy the cheaper it gets for everybody! 

Does Backyard Bullion charge for this service?

I do not charge for you to join this group order. But I do ask for an optional £1 "service charge" per person. If you would like to pay more as a "Tip" please feel free but I will not take offence if you don't pay anything at all in the form of a tip. 

What happens in the event of an issue with delivery from the European Mint?

As I said in the disclaimer at the top of this thread, I cannot be held financially responsible for the loss/damage of any items in this group order. The European Mint has their own business insurance to cover the loss/damage of parcels and I will act as a point of contact for sorting this out - but as I said I cannot be held financially responsible for the loss of items. 

Have you got any questions?

If you have any questions or would like any more information then please don't hesitate to ask here or via PM. 

If this was all too much to take in I will be making a video explaining this all in more detail which I will share here on Saturday so make sure you "follow" this thread and get that update when it is ready!

In the meantime - get me your shopping lists!

Backyard Bullion

 

[Thelonerangershorse]

I'm in, will sort an order at weekend.

[Ansel]

Sounds like a good time to get involved with a group order. 

[Thelonerangershorse]

As an additional thought, if 4 separate people each order a tube of Brits, do we get the 100 off price break?

[BackyardBullion]

52 minutes ago, Thelonerangershorse said:

As an additional thought, if 4 separate people each order a tube of Brits, do we get the 100 off price break?

You would have to organise yourselves to all pay for it over one weekend so that when I place the order the discount tracks through. But in theory yes.

[Martlet]

Do you know if/when they'll be updating their stock?  Their selection is light in some areas and there's a lack of 2018 editions on the site currently.

[PansPurse]

17 minutes ago, BackyardBullion said:

You would have to organise yourselves to all pay for it over one weekend so that when I place the order the discount tracks through. But in theory yes.

I'm probably not up for a full tube, but if anyone wants to coordinate a big Britannia purchase I'll happily throw my lot in for a few

[BackyardBullion]

26 minutes ago, Martlet said:

Do you know if/when they'll be updating their stock?  Their selection is light in some areas and there's a lack of 2018 editions on the site currently.

Don't know about 2018's as yet. Hopefully at some point soon but I will probably be organising another order in Feb/March so if not now, then. 

[FlorinCollector]

Hi byb i know before you didnt order individual capsules but would you allow for us to buy the capsules that come in a box? 

Thanks

56 minutes ago, PansPurse said:

I'm probably not up for a full tube, but if anyone wants to coordinate a big Britannia purchase I'll happily throw my lot in for a few

Hi mate id probably be looking to buy a couple brits so let me know when u plan on purchasing  

[BackyardBullion]

4 minutes ago, JCRJM said:

Hi byb i know before you didnt order individual capsules but would you allow for us to buy the capsules that come in a box? 

Thanks

As long as they aren't individual capsules that should be fine

[PansPurse]

5 minutes ago, JCRJM said:

Hi mate id probably be looking to buy a couple brits so let me know when u plan on purchasing  

Ok, to coordinate as many folks as possible, I suggest we aim to do the buy on the 20th. @BackyardBullion would that be ok or would you prefer us to finalize sooner?

[BackyardBullion]

Just now, PansPurse said:

Ok, to coordinate as many folks as possible, I suggest we aim to do the buy on the 20th. @BackyardBullion would that be ok or would you prefer us to finalize sooner?

Sounds good to me.

[JunkBond]

Count me in! Coz when Brexit happens....

[Foolssilver]

Hey BYB - I would like to be in for my first group order

[BackyardBullion]

3 minutes ago, Foolssilver said:

Hey BYB - I would like to be in for my first group order

 

6 hours ago, JunkBond said:

Count me in! Coz when Brexit happens....

We will sort it all out over the weekend boys! 

Just send me your shopping lists!

[smithy117]

hi 

 

i would like to get into the order too 

 

when will you be placing the order??

 

[blab]

hi 
 
i would like to get into the order too 
 
when will you be placing the order??
 

It says in the main post

[BackyardBullion]

34 minutes ago, smithy117 said:

hi 

 

i would like to get into the order too 

 

when will you be placing the order??

 

Any time over the next 3 weekends - just send me a shopping list and we will get it sorted as early as today if you like!

[smithy117]

9 minutes ago, blab said:

35 minutes ago, smithy117 said:

hi 
 
i would like to get into the order too 
 
when will you be placing the order??
 

It says in the main post

oh sorry that went right over my head

im lucky its 2 days after payday

 

i will get the list to you when i can 

[BackyardBullion]

 

[BackyardBullion]

The first orders are already in and we are at 500 EURO. 

[Broadlegs]

Where are you based BYB? Any possibility of collection (depending on where you are) [emoji3]

[BackyardBullion]

1 minute ago, Broadlegs said:

Where are you based BYB? Any possibility of collection (depending on where you are)

South of England for a start - is that anywhere near you!?

[BackyardBullion]

We are up to 1000 EURO now if anyone was curious. 

My estimate for shipping costs if you ordered 50 Euro of items would be about 2 Euros. 

But I fully expect the total order to go up before the end of the 3 weeks!

[BackyardBullion]

1500 EURO now!

You guys love shiny things...who knew!