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  1. Welcome to the JANUARY 2019 Group Order! This group order will be from The European Mint https://www.europeanmint.com/ PLEASE READ THE FOLLOWING CAREFULLY AS IT CONTAINS IMPORTANT INFORMATION ABOUT and JOINING THIS ORDER. Also, if you are interested in joining this order please "follow" this thread so as and when I have updates I can more easily share them. Dates for this Group Order This group order will be open for 2 weekends, starting on 5th & 6th January 2019 and closing on Sunday 13th January 2019 @ 6pm UK time. These dates WILL NOT be changed/extended and are fixed. I do however reserve the right to extend/end the order should an extenuating circumstance arrive - but this is unlikely to happen. The delivery estimate for your orders is going to be week commencing 4th February 2019. This is an ESTIMATE only and may be subject to change. Terms and conditions for joining the Group Order Joining this group order is at your own risk. Please make sure you read the following carefully because by joining the group order you are agreeing to the following. 1) I (Backyard Bullion) cannot take financial responsibility for lost/damaged items that are part of this group order. 2) Once payment has been received by Backyard Bullion all orders are final and cannot be refunded. 3) Orders are quoted based on live prices from the dealers website. If these prices change between quotation and payment additional funds will need to be sent (or refunded) where appropriate. 4) You agree that I (Backyard Bullion) will act as an agent on your behalf to purchase items from the above mentioned dealers. 5) Backyard Bullion can only dispatch your order upon successful delivery from the appropriate dealer and only upon payment of a separate postage invoice - which is sent after the order has closed. 6) Any loss or damaged item claims will be initiated and managed by me (Backyard Bullion) and any payouts for claims can only be made upon the successful payout from said claim. Backyard Bullion cannot be held financially responsible for any unsuccessful claims. 7) You are liable for any and all taxes that may be applied to your order for your home country of delivery. 😎 By joining the group order you agree unconditionally to all the above. What is the group order all about? This group order is a way to combine shipping costs for buying silver from Europe. We pay drastically less for our silver because we essentially do not pay VAT. I organise these orders so that people can get cheap silver but also so that I can unbox a large quantity of silver for my YouTube channel. It helps grow my social media, my BYB brand and my reputation within the community. This month, we are going to be using https://www.europeanmint.com/ EUROPEAN MINT PRICE MATCH GUARANTEE - EXCLUSIVE TO SILVER FORUM GROUP ORDERS The EU Mint have offered to price match the following items with GS.be (assuming that they are not already cheaper!) Any coins from the Queen's Beast Series (bullion), 10 oz & 2 oz - including the 10 oz dragon & 2 oz bull Oriental Border Britannias Perth Mint Dragon Bars Regular bullion coins from 2018 AND 2019 - a few examples are: Britannias, Maples, Philharmonicas, kangaroos, koalas, pandas, kookaburras and US eagles. Back dated years is on a case by case basis. Other coins may be price matched upon request - but no guarantee. Other items will have to be on a case by case basis. Some items cannot be price matched because of the volumes that The European Mint buys them in does not allow any room for movement in price. However for the list of coins above we are able to get the same unit price per coin. How do you place an order? The way this works is simple. You will decide what you want by looking at https://www.europeanmint.com/ and send me a private message via the forum WITH CLICKABLE HYPERLINKS PLEASE! to each item and how many you want. Please only message me via The Silver Forum only. I will send you a screen dump of the basket and total on their website and then I will send you another screen dump from www.transferwise.com showing the conversion and total in £. You then send the funds directly to me via Banks transfer and as soon as I get the funds I will place the order. Your order is then locked in and confirmed, you cannot cancel after this stage. WE WILL ONLY BE ORDERING IN STOCK ITEMS - ANYTHING ON PRE-ORDER WILL NOT BE ALLOWED. This is to avoid any delays after the order closes. When to order and pay Backyard Bullion? I will only be placing orders on the weekends and any funds must be with me before 6pm. I will not be able to place orders mid week unless there are extenuating circumstances. This is simply because I am a busy person and organising and keeping track of these orders is difficult. Feel free to send me your shopping lists during the week but understand that I will not be able to lock it in until the weekend - this is just the way it has to be so be aware that prices may fluctuate in the run up to the weekend. I would rather do it like this than potentially forget or miss recording orders and making mistakes. Deadline The order will close on Sunday 13th January 2019 @ 6pm UK time. You will need to have got funds to me by then if you would like to order anything. Should there be any delays in this it will mean the group order will be delayed and I will communicate any changes out to people via this thread. Shipping costs & Share of international postage. The European Mint has offered a very generous shipping quote for this order - capped at 1.2% of the total value of the order, e.g. If you spend €500 your shipping is €6. How do I get my coins from Backyard Bullion? Once the order has been delivered to me you will receive an "onwards postage invoice" which will include onwards postage and packaging from me to you. We will sort out the onwards postage and packaging once the order has been completed. Onwards shipping is at your choice and risk via Royal Mail. It is at this stage that we will sort out the share of international postage (if any applies). Here is a quick guide as to what the onwards postage costs will be - this is subject to change where appropriate and is meant to give you a guide as to the costs of postage only. Please note that the maximum that you can send via Royal Mail Special delivery for a decent price is 2kg (about 55 oz). If you would like to order more than this please get in touch to discuss shipping options. ****Please also note that there is NO PRECIOUS METALS INSURANCE on any royal mail service other than Special Delivery**** What happens in the event of an issue with delivery? As I said in the disclaimer at the top of this thread, I cannot be held financially responsible for the loss/damage of any items in this group order. The European Mint has insurance for their parcels but I have never had to put a claim in and I do not know how likely it might be that something is refunded should it go missing in transit. There is an intrinsic risk in ordering from any international company but I am confident that we will be able to resolve anything that might happen. Please bear this in mind before joining the order. It is important to note the above terms and conditions and re-iterate that joining this order is at YOUR OWN RISK. I cannot be held responsible if items are lost/damaged when arriving from the European Mint. Should there be any issues I will of course endeavour to work with the dealer to solve them, but I cannot guarantee a resolution. Delivery from me to you is of a postage method of your choosing. As I have mentioned above there is no precious metals insurance for anything other than Royal Mail Special Delivery. In the event an order is missing or damaged any insurance claims will be made by me (Backyard Bullion) and refunds can only be paid upon successful completion and payout from Royal Mail. In the event that a claim by Royal Mail is denied I cannot be held financially responsible. Final Thoughts Is it worth it to join? Yes - buying silver from Europe is the single cheapest way of buying silver. Doing it as part of this group order is cheaper still. Some of their coins may be more expensive (the more collectable type coins) but certainly not by much. Another reason to join the more you buy the cheaper it gets for everybody! Additionally you will be helping support my YouTube channel because being able to unbox a large quantity of silver for my YouTube channel https://www.youtube.com/backyardbullion is always a fun and popular video and it helps grow my brand and business. Does Backyard Bullion charge for this service? I do not charge for you to join this group order - but we do ask you to consider contributing funds in the form of a "tip" or "Service charge". We ask for just £1 (but as many of you frequently do please feel free to donate whatever you feel appropriate! Another great way to say thank you is to purchase my Hand Poured silver. I will happily offer discounts on my items to factor in the combined postage! I will not be offended or angry if you choose not to pay the "tip" or buy my hand poured silver - but bear in mind that proceeds from the tip help feed Mrs BYB a slap up takeaway and keeping her interested in all the hard work of doing these group orders... For those who are interested, our takeaway of choice for this order will be another GIANT Chinese! Combining postage with other BYB items Of course, if you want to combine other orders with this group order we would be more than happy to offer discounts on our hand poured silver. Have you got any questions? If you have any questions or would like any more information then please don't hesitate to ask here or via PM. In the meantime - get me your shopping lists! Backyard Bullion
  2. Barely has the dust settled from the INSANE March group order and we are now ready for the next one! So, welcome to the APRIL 2018 Group Order, this time from https://www.europeanmint.com/ PLEASE READ THE FOLLOWING CAREFULLY AS IT CONTAINS IMPORTANT INFORMATION ABOUT and JOINING THIS ORDER. Also, if you are interested in joining this order please "follow" this thread so as and when I have updates I can more easily share them. Disclaimer Joining this group order is at your own risk. Please make sure you read the following carefully. I (Backyard Bullion) cannot take financial responsibility for lost/damaged items that are part of this order. By joining this group order you agree to this. What is the group order all about? This group order is a way to combine shipping costs for buying silver from Europe. We pay drastically less for our silver because we essentially do not pay VAT. I organise these orders so that people can get cheap silver but also so that I can unbox a large quantity of silver for my YouTube channel. It helps grow my social media, my BYB brand and my reputation within the community. Last month we used GoldSilver.be - one of the cheapest bullion dealers in Europe and ordered over 1000 as a community! This month, we are going to be swapping back to https://www.europeanmint.com/ This does not mean we will never use GS.be again - it is most likely that we will rotate between the two throughout the year. The European Mint is based in Estonia. I have personally met the manager and owner and have an established business relationship with them. Unlike Goldsilver.be they are incredible with their customer services and general ethos on supplying bullion. Their products tend to be newer, of a better standard and also handled better. This leads to a better level of service. I also think it is very good to be able to give other dealers a chance because the only way that GS.be will ever improve is if we act and take our business elsewhere. It is important to note the above disclaimer and re-iterate it again. I cannot be held responsible if items are lost/damaged when arriving from the European Mint. However I have the upmost faith in them as an organisation and the fact that I am in direct contact with the owner means that I am able to ring him to ask questions, sort out issues and we have a very good business relationship already. Int he unlikely event something went wrong feel so much more confident working with The European Mint than with GS.be - and as I am the one taking some of the burden and risk organising this order I think that should count for something! Let's address the ELEPHANT in the room - PRICING! GS.be are known to be the cheapest in Europe. However - The European Mint has offered some exclusive price match guarantees to members of the forum who join this group order. The European Mint has a great ethos. They want to be the next big dealer in Europe. To that end they are always trying to compete. This order is no different. EXCLUSIVE PRICE MATCH GUARANTEE They have offered to price match the following items with GS.be Any coins from the Queen's Beast Series (bullion), 10 oz & 2 oz - including the 10 oz dragon & 2 oz bull Oriental Border Britannias Perth Mint Dragon Bars Regular bullion coins, Britannias, Maples, Philharmonicas, kangaroos, koalas, pandas, kookaburras and eagles (2018 versions). Back dated years is on a case by case basis. The new Royal Mint two dragon coin Other items will have to be on a case by case basis. Some items cannot be price matched because of the volumes that The European Mint buys them in does not allow any room for movement in price. However for the list of coins above we are able to get the same unit price per coin. There is one last thing to mention - The European Mint does not have as wide a selection of coins as GS.be - this is simply down to an economy of scale. As I mentioned earlier in this post we will be going back to GS.be in the future but for this month this is where we are going. How will the order work? The way this works is simple. You will decide what you want by looking at their website https://www.europeanmint.com/ and send me a shopping list of what you want (preferably with hyperlinks to each item!). Now, some of the prices will be different on their website as the price match guarantee is EXCLUSIVE for the silver forum group order. So - once you have sent me a shopping list I will give you a total which is based on the price match to GS.be + any items you want that are not price matched. ***It might be that the 10 oz Dragon is not listed on their site and that some of the 2 oz Queen's beast coins are not in stock. The European Mint will have these items in stock ready for this group order so we can still order them now. I will send you a screen dump of the basket and total on their website and then I will send you another screen dump from www.transferwise.com showing the conversion and total in £. You then send this via PayPal F&F or Banks transfer and as soon as I get the funds I will place the order. Your order is then locked in and confirmed, you cannot cancel after this stage. When to order and pay Backyard Bullion? I will only be placing orders on the weekends. I will not be able to place orders mid week unless there are extenuating circumstances. This is simply because I am a busy person and organising and keeping track of these orders is difficult. Feel free to send me your shopping lists during the week but understand that I will not be able to lock it in until the weekend - this is just the way it has to be so be aware that prices may fluctuate in the run up to the weekend. I would rather do it like this than potentially forget or miss recording orders and making mistakes. Deadlines & Timelines for this order The order will close on Sunday 22nd April 2018 @ 8pm UK Time You will need to have got funds to me by then if you would like to order anything. Please note that this order is going to be dependant on certain items being available for shipping, namely the new 10 oz QB dragons. Should there be any delays in this it will mean the group order will be delayed and I will communicate any changes out to people via this thread. It is therefore likely that you will not receive your coins before the end of April at the earliest - I am happy to combine shipping with 1 oz Forum bars in May. Shipping costs & Share of international postage. With our previous Belgian dealer, shipping was free if the order was more than €5,000. There was a reason for this - they used cheaper and less reliable shipping providers. European Mint uses the likes of FedEx/TNT/UPS etc. which will be more expensive but provides a much better quality of service and peace of mind. So there will be a share of shipping for people joining the order. I have agreed an exclusive 20% off for shipping for this group order so whilst the shipping will be a little more - it won't be that much of an increase for a decent sized order. So - even with the discount the shipping will be a little more than people are used to. But, split out between all the orders it will not add up to much. As I have said before the risk and burden of this group order lies with me - I would prefer to pay a little more for that peace of mind than have my parcel left in a bin or in the neighbours garden. So, here are the prices based on the weight of the order. How do I get my coins from Backyard Bullion? You will have to pay for onwards postage and packaging from me to you. We will sort out the onwards postage and packaging once the order has been completed. Onwards shipping is at your choice and risk via Royal Mail. It is at this stage that we will sort out the share of international postage (if any applies). Here is a quick guide as to what the onwards postage costs will be. THE BELOW TABLE IS NOT UP TO DATE WITH THE NEW POSTAGE INCREASES - I will update it when I have some more time! Please note that the maximum that you can send via Royal Mail Special delivery for a decent price is 2kg (about 55 oz). If you would like to order more than this please get in touch to discuss shipping options. Is it worth it to join? Yes - buying silver from Europe is the single cheapest way of buying silver. Doing it as part of this group order is cheaper still. Some of their coins may be more expensive (the more collectable type coins) but certainly not by much. Another reason to join the more you buy the cheaper it gets for everybody! Does Backyard Bullion charge for this service? I do not charge for you to join this group order. But I do ask for an optional "service charge" in the form of a tip, the suggested amount is £1 per person. I will not be offended or angry if you choose not to pay the "tip" - but bear in mind that proceeds from the tip help feed Mrs BYB a slap up curry as a thank you for helping to package up all of your orders! The main benefit for me is to be able to unbox a large quantity of silver for my YouTube channel https://www.youtube.com/backyardbullion which helps grow my channel, brand and reputation. What happens in the event of an issue with delivery? As I said in the disclaimer at the top of this thread, I cannot be held financially responsible for the loss/damage of any items in this group order. The European Mint and their delivery partner company have insurance for their parcels but I have never had to put a claim in and I do not know how likely it might be that something is refunded should it go missing in transit. There is an intrinsic risk in ordering from any international company but I am confident that we will be able to resolve anything that might happen. Please bear this in mind before joining the order. Have you got any questions? If you have any questions or would like any more information then please don't hesitate to ask here or via PM. In the meantime - get me your shopping lists! Backyard Bullion
  3. Hello everyone - Welcome to the JANUARY 2018 Group Order from https://www.europeanmint.com/ PLEASE READ THE FOLLOWING CAREFULLY AS IT CONTAINS IMPORTANT INFORMATION ABOUT JOINING THIS ORDER. Also, if you are interested in joining this order please "follow" this thread so as and when I have updates I can more easily share them. Disclaimer Joining this group order is at your own risk. Please make sure you read the following carefully. I (Backyard Bullion) cannot take financial responsibility for lost/damaged items that are part of this order. By joining this group order you agree to this. What is the group order all about? This group order is a way to combine shipping costs for buying silver from Europe. We pay drastically less for our silver because we essentially do not pay VAT. I organise these orders so that people can get cheap silver but also so that I can unbox a large quantity of silver for my YouTube channel. It helps grow my social media, my BYB brand and my reputation within the community. You may have noticed that we have changed dealers. Previously we have used a Belgian dealer but as https://www.europeanmint.com/ are actually cheaper on most items and have significantly better shipping and customer services it makes sense to use them. I have also personally visited their offices and met the manager. I have very high confidence in their ability to do business with the forum members as part of these group orders. If you would like to see the videos where I went to Estonia to meet them then please check out the following VLOG and interview: https://youtu.be/TILyhBWbaoU https://youtu.be/Ly6kqrsMli4 How will the order work? The way this works is simple. You will decide what you want by looking at their website and send me a shopping list of what you want. I will send you a screen dump of the basket and total on their website and then I will send you another screen dump from www.transferwise.com showing the conversion and total in £. You then send this via PayPal F&F or Banks transfer and as soon as I get the funds I will pull the trigger with https://www.europeanmint.com/ When to order and pay Backyard Bullion? I will only be placing orders on the weekend. I will not be able to place orders mid week unless there are extenuating circumstances. This is simply because I am a busy person and organising and keeping track of these orders is difficult. Feel free to send me your shopping lists during the week but understand that I will not be able to lock it in until the weekend - this is just the way it has to be so be aware that prices may fluctuate in the run up to the weekend. I would rather do it like this than potentially forget or miss recording orders and making mistakes. Deadlines & Timelines for this order The order will close on Sunday 21st January @ 8pm UK Time You will need to have got funds to me by then if you would like to order anything. I estimate that I will receive the order by no later than 28th January meaning I can get things posted out to you in the week commencing 29th January. Please note this is an estimate and may change. Shipping costs & Share of international postage. With our previous Belgian dealer, shipping was free if the order was more than €5,000. There was a reason for this - they used cheaper and less reliable shipping providers. European Mint uses the likes of FedEx/TNT/UPS etc. which will be more expensive but provides a much better quality of service and peace of mind. So there will be a share of shipping for people joining the order. Overall thought this will be offset but the cheaper base cost of the coins that the European Mint offer. Also, I have arranged an exclusive 20% off for shipping for this group order so I am confident this will be cheaper than any other dealers in Europe. Including the discount their weight/price thresholds are therefore as follows: Weight EU VAT Total under 500g € 16 € 3.20 € 19 500g - 1kg € 24 € 4.80 € 29 1kg - 2kg € 32 € 6.40 € 38 2kg - 5kg € 48 € 9.60 € 58 5kg - 10kg € 72 € 14.40 € 86 10kg - 20kg € 112 € 22.40 € 134 Individually we will all pay a % of the total shipping cost based on the value of your individual order. So if your total is £170 and the total value of the order is £5000 you would pay your % (3.4%) of the shipping - which for this size order would likely be €86. This would work out to be €2.92 - as you can see a very small amount in extra shipping. This total will be paid for after the order has closed. I will keep an eye on the shipping weight and if we are close to a certain threshold I might advise that some orders be shipped separately or held for future group orders. How do I get my coins from Backyard Bullion? You will have to pay for onwards postage and packaging from me to you. We will sort out the onwards postage and packaging once the order has been completed. Onwards shipping is at your choice and risk via Royal Mail. It is at this stage that we will sort out the share of international postage. Please note that the maximum that you can send via Royal Mail Special delivery for a decent price is 2kg (about 55 oz) . If you would like to order more than this please get in touch to discuss shipping options. Is it worth it to join? Yes - The European Mint is cheaper by quite some margin than the other bullion dealers. Some of their coins may be more expensive (the more collectable type coins) but certainly not by much. A prime example is with Britannias where The European Mint is about 70p cheaper per coin. Even with the additional costs of shipping it is still cheaper! Plus you get a much better quality of service and shipping provider. Another reason to join the more you buy the cheaper it gets for everybody! Does Backyard Bullion charge for this service? I do not charge for you to join this group order. But I do ask for an optional £1 "service charge" per person. If you would like to pay more as a "Tip" please feel free but I will not take offence if you don't pay anything at all in the form of a tip. What happens in the event of an issue with delivery from the European Mint? As I said in the disclaimer at the top of this thread, I cannot be held financially responsible for the loss/damage of any items in this group order. The European Mint has their own business insurance to cover the loss/damage of parcels and I will act as a point of contact for sorting this out - but as I said I cannot be held financially responsible for the loss of items. Have you got any questions? If you have any questions or would like any more information then please don't hesitate to ask here or via PM. If this was all too much to take in I will be making a video explaining this all in more detail which I will share here on Saturday so make sure you "follow" this thread and get that update when it is ready! In the meantime - get me your shopping lists! Backyard Bullion