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Barely has the dust settled from the INSANE March group order and we are now ready for the next one! So, welcome to the APRIL 2018 Group Order, this time from https://www.europeanmint.com/ PLEASE READ THE FOLLOWING CAREFULLY AS IT CONTAINS IMPORTANT INFORMATION ABOUT and JOINING THIS ORDER. Also, if you are interested in joining this order please "follow" this thread so as and when I have updates I can more easily share them. Disclaimer Joining this group order is at your own risk. Please make sure you read the following carefully. I (Backyard Bullion) cannot take financial responsibility for lost/damaged items that are part of this order. By joining this group order you agree to this. What is the group order all about? This group order is a way to combine shipping costs for buying silver from Europe. We pay drastically less for our silver because we essentially do not pay VAT. I organise these orders so that people can get cheap silver but also so that I can unbox a large quantity of silver for my YouTube channel. It helps grow my social media, my BYB brand and my reputation within the community. Last month we used GoldSilver.be - one of the cheapest bullion dealers in Europe and ordered over 1000 as a community! This month, we are going to be swapping back to https://www.europeanmint.com/ This does not mean we will never use GS.be again - it is most likely that we will rotate between the two throughout the year. The European Mint is based in Estonia. I have personally met the manager and owner and have an established business relationship with them. Unlike Goldsilver.be they are incredible with their customer services and general ethos on supplying bullion. Their products tend to be newer, of a better standard and also handled better. This leads to a better level of service. I also think it is very good to be able to give other dealers a chance because the only way that GS.be will ever improve is if we act and take our business elsewhere. It is important to note the above disclaimer and re-iterate it again. I cannot be held responsible if items are lost/damaged when arriving from the European Mint. However I have the upmost faith in them as an organisation and the fact that I am in direct contact with the owner means that I am able to ring him to ask questions, sort out issues and we have a very good business relationship already. Int he unlikely event something went wrong feel so much more confident working with The European Mint than with GS.be - and as I am the one taking some of the burden and risk organising this order I think that should count for something! Let's address the ELEPHANT in the room - PRICING! GS.be are known to be the cheapest in Europe. However - The European Mint has offered some exclusive price match guarantees to members of the forum who join this group order. The European Mint has a great ethos. They want to be the next big dealer in Europe. To that end they are always trying to compete. This order is no different. EXCLUSIVE PRICE MATCH GUARANTEE They have offered to price match the following items with GS.be Any coins from the Queen's Beast Series (bullion), 10 oz & 2 oz - including the 10 oz dragon & 2 oz bull Oriental Border Britannias Perth Mint Dragon Bars Regular bullion coins, Britannias, Maples, Philharmonicas, kangaroos, koalas, pandas, kookaburras and eagles (2018 versions). Back dated years is on a case by case basis. The new Royal Mint two dragon coin Other items will have to be on a case by case basis. Some items cannot be price matched because of the volumes that The European Mint buys them in does not allow any room for movement in price. However for the list of coins above we are able to get the same unit price per coin. There is one last thing to mention - The European Mint does not have as wide a selection of coins as GS.be - this is simply down to an economy of scale. As I mentioned earlier in this post we will be going back to GS.be in the future but for this month this is where we are going. How will the order work? The way this works is simple. You will decide what you want by looking at their website https://www.europeanmint.com/ and send me a shopping list of what you want (preferably with hyperlinks to each item!). Now, some of the prices will be different on their website as the price match guarantee is EXCLUSIVE for the silver forum group order. So - once you have sent me a shopping list I will give you a total which is based on the price match to GS.be + any items you want that are not price matched. ***It might be that the 10 oz Dragon is not listed on their site and that some of the 2 oz Queen's beast coins are not in stock. The European Mint will have these items in stock ready for this group order so we can still order them now. I will send you a screen dump of the basket and total on their website and then I will send you another screen dump from www.transferwise.com showing the conversion and total in £. You then send this via PayPal F&F or Banks transfer and as soon as I get the funds I will place the order. Your order is then locked in and confirmed, you cannot cancel after this stage. When to order and pay Backyard Bullion? I will only be placing orders on the weekends. I will not be able to place orders mid week unless there are extenuating circumstances. This is simply because I am a busy person and organising and keeping track of these orders is difficult. Feel free to send me your shopping lists during the week but understand that I will not be able to lock it in until the weekend - this is just the way it has to be so be aware that prices may fluctuate in the run up to the weekend. I would rather do it like this than potentially forget or miss recording orders and making mistakes. Deadlines & Timelines for this order The order will close on Sunday 22nd April 2018 @ 8pm UK Time You will need to have got funds to me by then if you would like to order anything. Please note that this order is going to be dependant on certain items being available for shipping, namely the new 10 oz QB dragons. Should there be any delays in this it will mean the group order will be delayed and I will communicate any changes out to people via this thread. It is therefore likely that you will not receive your coins before the end of April at the earliest - I am happy to combine shipping with 1 oz Forum bars in May. Shipping costs & Share of international postage. With our previous Belgian dealer, shipping was free if the order was more than €5,000. There was a reason for this - they used cheaper and less reliable shipping providers. European Mint uses the likes of FedEx/TNT/UPS etc. which will be more expensive but provides a much better quality of service and peace of mind. So there will be a share of shipping for people joining the order. I have agreed an exclusive 20% off for shipping for this group order so whilst the shipping will be a little more - it won't be that much of an increase for a decent sized order. So - even with the discount the shipping will be a little more than people are used to. But, split out between all the orders it will not add up to much. As I have said before the risk and burden of this group order lies with me - I would prefer to pay a little more for that peace of mind than have my parcel left in a bin or in the neighbours garden. So, here are the prices based on the weight of the order. How do I get my coins from Backyard Bullion? You will have to pay for onwards postage and packaging from me to you. We will sort out the onwards postage and packaging once the order has been completed. Onwards shipping is at your choice and risk via Royal Mail. It is at this stage that we will sort out the share of international postage (if any applies). Here is a quick guide as to what the onwards postage costs will be. THE BELOW TABLE IS NOT UP TO DATE WITH THE NEW POSTAGE INCREASES - I will update it when I have some more time! Please note that the maximum that you can send via Royal Mail Special delivery for a decent price is 2kg (about 55 oz). If you would like to order more than this please get in touch to discuss shipping options. Is it worth it to join? Yes - buying silver from Europe is the single cheapest way of buying silver. Doing it as part of this group order is cheaper still. Some of their coins may be more expensive (the more collectable type coins) but certainly not by much. Another reason to join the more you buy the cheaper it gets for everybody! Does Backyard Bullion charge for this service? I do not charge for you to join this group order. But I do ask for an optional "service charge" in the form of a tip, the suggested amount is £1 per person. I will not be offended or angry if you choose not to pay the "tip" - but bear in mind that proceeds from the tip help feed Mrs BYB a slap up curry as a thank you for helping to package up all of your orders! The main benefit for me is to be able to unbox a large quantity of silver for my YouTube channel https://www.youtube.com/backyardbullion which helps grow my channel, brand and reputation. What happens in the event of an issue with delivery? As I said in the disclaimer at the top of this thread, I cannot be held financially responsible for the loss/damage of any items in this group order. The European Mint and their delivery partner company have insurance for their parcels but I have never had to put a claim in and I do not know how likely it might be that something is refunded should it go missing in transit. There is an intrinsic risk in ordering from any international company but I am confident that we will be able to resolve anything that might happen. Please bear this in mind before joining the order. Have you got any questions? If you have any questions or would like any more information then please don't hesitate to ask here or via PM. In the meantime - get me your shopping lists! Backyard Bullion
I’ve been around the Forum for a few weeks now, following various postings, watching videos, buying the odd coin or bar, signing up to all sorts of Bullion sites, scrutinising the rise and fall of spot prices on an hourly basis, learning basic German, keeping an eye on EBay and going quietly fretful and frighteningly obsessive as the days go on. My wife has even begun to use phrases like: I don’t know you any more...... Why do we never eat together? Like we used to....... If you mention the words BU, proof or low mintage once more....I won’t be responsible for my actions..... I realise this could take over the whole of my life, alter my ability to reason, affect relationships, destroy my bank balance. I need a sound, reasonable strategy to the business of collecting or stacking, which will be acceptable to a wife who is growing more suspicious and dubious. Tell me, those of you who have successfully negotiated this dilemma.....What is your strategy?
Hi Everyone, My name is Shelley; some know me as Silver Shell. I live in the heart of Bonny Scotland and I have been stacking silver for over 2 years now and I have also been hand-pouring silver for the same amount of time. All the silver I pour is available for sale and I can arrange postage worldwide just get in contact with me. My passion is for hand poured silver although I do seem to have a lot of coins in my stack but my heart and my money belong to hand poured silver. Some say it’s a weakness I say it’s a passion ;-) I am really looking forward to chatting to like-minded people and getting to know you all. Hope you all have a wonderful day/night.