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whuamai

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    whuamai reacted to Kookaburracollector in 20 Francs Advice Please   
    @whuamai you have a lot to answer for! 😂!
    Back in June, I was admiring your beautiful Skanderbegu thinking..I need to get one of those.
    After 3 months of looking..I have managed to grab one (as seen on Today I received)

    As this thread tends to lean on the side of educational, I asked my good friend (and spender of all my money) @augur what he knows about this coin..and this is what he said...
    “Zog I, King of the Albanians (1895–1961), born Ahmet Muhtar Zogolli, taking the surname Zogu in 1922, was the leader of Albania from 1922 to 1939. He first served as Prime Minister of Albania (1922–1924), then as President (1925–1928), and finally as the first and only King (1928–1939).
    This type was struck for Albania 1926-27 at the Rome mint to the standard of the French 20 francs d'or, even tho France had ceased striking such coins in 1914.
    The Franga is an obsolete unit of currency, equal to 5 lek, used in the Albanian Republic and Albanian Kingdom under Zogu. Coins denominated in Franga were in use from 1926 until 1939.
    Engraver: Giuseppe Romagnoli
    George Castriot (1405–1468), known as Skanderbeg (from Turkish Iskender Bey, meaning “Lord Alexander”, or “Leader Alexander”), was an Albanian nobleman and military commander who led a rebellion against the Ottoman Empire in what is today Albania and North Macedonia.
    A member of the noble Castriot family, he was sent to the Ottoman court as part of the Devshirme, where he was educated and entered the service of the Ottoman sultan for the next twenty years. He rose through the ranks, culminating in the appointment as sanjakbey (governor) of the Sanjak of Dibra in 1440. In 1443, he deserted the Ottomans during the Battle of Niš and became the ruler of Krujë, Svetigrad, and Modrič. In 1444, he was appointed the chief commander of the short-lived League of Lezhë that consolidated nobility throughout what is today Northern Albania. Thus, for the first time Albania was united under a single leader. Skanderbeg's rebellion was not a general uprising of Albanians, because he did not gain support in the Venetian-controlled north or in the Ottoman-controlled south. His followers included, apart from Albanians, also Slavs, Vlachs, and Greeks. Despite this military valor he was not able to do more than to hold his own possessions within the very small area in nowadays northern Albania where almost all of his victories against the Ottomans took place. Skanderbeg's military skills presented a major obstacle to Ottoman expansion, and he was considered by many in western Europe to be a model of Christian resistance against Muslims. For 25 years, from 1443 to 1468, Skanderbeg's 10,000 man army marched through Ottoman territory winning against consistently larger and better supplied Ottoman forces, for which he was admired.
    Skanderbeg always signed himself in Latin: Dominus Albaniae ("Lord of Albania"). In 1460–61, he participated in Italy's civil wars in support of Ferdinand I of Naples. In 1463, he became the chief commander of the crusading forces of Pope Pius II, but the Pope died while the armies were still gathering. Together with Venetians he fought against the Ottomans during the Ottoman–Venetian War (1463–1479) until his death in January 1468. He ranks high in that military history, as the most persistent opponent of the Ottoman Empire in its heyday who was also ever-victorious.
    Depicts the Lion of Saint Mark dividing value, country name above, mintmark and date below.
    The Reverse..
    The Lion of Saint Mark, representing the evangelist St Mark, pictured in the form of a winged lion holding a Bible, is the symbol of the city of Venice and formerly of the Venetian Republic.
    The Venetian lion appears in two distinct forms. One is as a winged animal resting on water, to symbolise dominance over the seas, holding St. Mark’s Gospel under a front paw. The other form is known as the lion “in moleca”, in the form of a crab. Here the lion is depicted full-faced with its wings circled around the head resembling the claws of a crustacean. It is emerging from water, so that the lion “in moleca” is associated with the lagoon and the city, whereas the standing winged lion is thought to be more associated with Venetian territory around the Mediterran.
    By the way..When I said I had to get one...I lied...I had to get two...a fine example of the1927 has already been sourced! Pictures to follow in a few weeks!
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    whuamai reacted to augur in 20 Francs Advice Please   
    I wonder if someby at La Poste went through the effort to sum up those stamps since a lot are still in French Francs and not in Euros...

    Anyway, this collage contained an overstrike overload 20 Lire, the 1877. This one is not listed in numista ( @gustavus only resource I would know of) and I can blame @whuamai who brought this coin to my attention:


     
    double 77 on the obverse 

    and double L on the reverse 

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    whuamai reacted to 5huggy in 20 Francs Advice Please   
    Excellent Fellow that @whuamai  - its clearly a serious DOSe of overstrike!!
    nice also to see some else likes using numista!
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    whuamai reacted to augur in 20 Francs Advice Please   
    1866 Napoleon III 20 Francs and its plethora of Roman symbology 


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    whuamai reacted to augur in 20 Francs Advice Please   
    My first circulation 20 Swiss Franc (bought at 30% below spot!)


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    whuamai got a reaction from arcglide in Bars Photo Thread...   
    Today my bars have seen a bit of light after being in the dark for quite a while. 

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    whuamai reacted to augur in 20 Francs Advice Please   
    Also thanks to @whuamai for hooking me up with a german contact who sold this 5 Venezolanos from a spanish source. 


    5 Venezolanos = 25 Bolivares/Francs
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    whuamai got a reaction from ilovesilverireallydo in 20 Francs Advice Please   
    Nice one!
    Those Austrian and Hungarian Florins are very nice to pick up. There are plenty of different years with quite low mintages compared to the most other french francs.
    I am trying to gather many different dates, with patience the collection grows over time while paying only fairly small premiums.
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    whuamai got a reaction from augur in 20 Francs Advice Please   
    Nice one!
    Those Austrian and Hungarian Florins are very nice to pick up. There are plenty of different years with quite low mintages compared to the most other french francs.
    I am trying to gather many different dates, with patience the collection grows over time while paying only fairly small premiums.
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    whuamai reacted to augur in 20 Francs Advice Please   
    This 1888 is in a pretty good nick considering that the fields wear quite easily due to the flat design and rim


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    whuamai got a reaction from AlL in Good Gold close to spot   
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    whuamai got a reaction from Alex in World Gold Fractionals   
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    whuamai reacted to augur in Another fake?   
    Interestingly the coin on @whuamai link uses a 1906 gold double crown (20 Mark) as reference coin for a genuine Prussian gold coin; and this coin also has a wider rim in the obverse...
    However:
    your 1906 rim isn't flat but convex, there is even a little ledge on the reverse at 12 o'clock
    your edge inscription has a too small font, isn't sharply struck and isn't centred but varies from top to the bottom of the edge
    Therefore I would conclude that this is not a genuine 20 Mark but a copy. Subject to the correct dimensions it should still have the correct amount of gold and should therefore be worth the spot price you paid. 
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    whuamai got a reaction from AlL in World Gold Fractionals   
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    whuamai got a reaction from Murph in 20 Francs Advice Please   
    40 Francs Louis XVIII 1828 W, 352k Mintage
    20 Francs Luxemburg (Medal) 1953, 25,6k Mintage
    10 Dinara Serbia 1882 V, 1 year Type, 300k Mintage
     

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    whuamai got a reaction from augur in 20 Francs Advice Please   
    40 Francs Louis XVIII 1828 W, 352k Mintage
    20 Francs Luxemburg (Medal) 1953, 25,6k Mintage
    10 Dinara Serbia 1882 V, 1 year Type, 300k Mintage
     

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    whuamai got a reaction from mr1030 in 20 Francs Advice Please   
    40 Francs Louis XVIII 1828 W, 352k Mintage
    20 Francs Luxemburg (Medal) 1953, 25,6k Mintage
    10 Dinara Serbia 1882 V, 1 year Type, 300k Mintage
     

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    whuamai got a reaction from Murph in 20 Francs Advice Please   
    Made some pictures today when I visited my coins in the Bank.
    Very bad light in the basement so the pictures didn't come out very well. In real they look alot better.
     
    20 Lire Italy 1923, 1 year type, Mintage 20k
     

     
    40 Lire Maria Luigia 1815, two year type, Mintage 220 K
    40 Lire Napoleon 1814, Mintage 264 K
     

     
     
     
    20 Pesetas 1889,  three year type, Mintage 875 K
    20 Pesetas 1899, two year type, Mintage  2,1 Million, many melted down
    10 Pesetas 1878 (EMM), two year type, Mintage 90 K

    20 Franga Skanderbeg 1927, two year type, Mintage 5 K
    20 Franga Amet Zogu 1927, two year type, Mintage 6K 
     

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    whuamai got a reaction from ilovesilverireallydo in 20 Francs Advice Please   
    40 Francs Louis XVIII 1828 W, 352k Mintage
    20 Francs Luxemburg (Medal) 1953, 25,6k Mintage
    10 Dinara Serbia 1882 V, 1 year Type, 300k Mintage
     

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    whuamai got a reaction from Kookaburracollector in 20 Francs Advice Please   
    40 Francs Louis XVIII 1828 W, 352k Mintage
    20 Francs Luxemburg (Medal) 1953, 25,6k Mintage
    10 Dinara Serbia 1882 V, 1 year Type, 300k Mintage
     

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    whuamai got a reaction from SilverTanner in 20 Francs Advice Please   
    40 Francs Louis XVIII 1828 W, 352k Mintage
    20 Francs Luxemburg (Medal) 1953, 25,6k Mintage
    10 Dinara Serbia 1882 V, 1 year Type, 300k Mintage
     

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    whuamai got a reaction from AlL in 20 Francs Advice Please   
    Yea, I have seen it. I really like that channel and he's descriptions are very well done. 
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    whuamai got a reaction from HelpingHands in 20 Francs Advice Please   
    40 Francs Louis XVIII 1828 W, 352k Mintage
    20 Francs Luxemburg (Medal) 1953, 25,6k Mintage
    10 Dinara Serbia 1882 V, 1 year Type, 300k Mintage
     

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    whuamai got a reaction from AlL in 20 Francs Advice Please   
    4 Florins Austria / Hungary, weighing the half of the 8 Florins (20 Francs size and weight)
    The Hungarian ones are quite rare and carry a high premium.
    The Austrian ones are even rarer and carry very high premiums.