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ikeonet1

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    ikeonet1 got a reaction from Lindeman in Your views on 1/10 gold coins?   
    I agree with Numistacker.. I've focused primarly on 1/4 and 1/10 mainly due to affordability. During the recent spike, I've traded a few of my gold pieces back to silver or larger pieces of gold. I try to stick with gold that I can get where the premiums are flexible. I recently did a trade of a $10 indian 1/2 AU Details, $2.5 indian, and 1/10 Lunar horse + a little cash for a  2015 1 oz libertad, although with rim dings. 
    In another case I sold off a 2006 1/4 panda (damaged) and a 2012 1/10 panda and picked up 6 x 10 oz JM bars. I leverage the premiums and demand to do a conversion. My total input $925 for a conversion to 60oz of premium bullion ~$15.42/oz.
    This is not the case for a lot of 1/4's, definitely not for eagles, philharmonics, etc. The bullion value is just the price floor. The premium is the demand that can be leveraged in a trade deal or sale. In the case for the indians, I would've never got the full cash value because they were AU details, but now I have a full 1 oz which can be realized for full bullion value at anytime, same with the JM bars or use the premium to do it again.
    The 1/10-1/4 has some of the biggest premium gains out of the fractionals. The more in demand the better, like the 1/4 QB which also did well for me. I try to buy at spot, very close too it, or trade under it (with existing inventory). If you do pandas, DO NOT remove them from OMP. They lose 10-20% unless they are graded and slabbed. I sold off my 2006 because it had a little mark and left $150 on the table. The premiums are all in the condition or grade for the collectors.
    One other note with the semi-numi, if spot went down I would've been able to convert at much better ratios, but considering spot went up I got less. 
    Btw, i don't know the performance of the 1/10th brits that could be a locality thing. Pandas though are world wide. I also like the somali elephant but the premium is too high for me right now.
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    ikeonet1 got a reaction from oliversw5 in Your views on 1/10 gold coins?   
    I agree with Numistacker.. I've focused primarly on 1/4 and 1/10 mainly due to affordability. During the recent spike, I've traded a few of my gold pieces back to silver or larger pieces of gold. I try to stick with gold that I can get where the premiums are flexible. I recently did a trade of a $10 indian 1/2 AU Details, $2.5 indian, and 1/10 Lunar horse + a little cash for a  2015 1 oz libertad, although with rim dings. 
    In another case I sold off a 2006 1/4 panda (damaged) and a 2012 1/10 panda and picked up 6 x 10 oz JM bars. I leverage the premiums and demand to do a conversion. My total input $925 for a conversion to 60oz of premium bullion ~$15.42/oz.
    This is not the case for a lot of 1/4's, definitely not for eagles, philharmonics, etc. The bullion value is just the price floor. The premium is the demand that can be leveraged in a trade deal or sale. In the case for the indians, I would've never got the full cash value because they were AU details, but now I have a full 1 oz which can be realized for full bullion value at anytime, same with the JM bars or use the premium to do it again.
    The 1/10-1/4 has some of the biggest premium gains out of the fractionals. The more in demand the better, like the 1/4 QB which also did well for me. I try to buy at spot, very close too it, or trade under it (with existing inventory). If you do pandas, DO NOT remove them from OMP. They lose 10-20% unless they are graded and slabbed. I sold off my 2006 because it had a little mark and left $150 on the table. The premiums are all in the condition or grade for the collectors.
    One other note with the semi-numi, if spot went down I would've been able to convert at much better ratios, but considering spot went up I got less. 
    Btw, i don't know the performance of the 1/10th brits that could be a locality thing. Pandas though are world wide. I also like the somali elephant but the premium is too high for me right now.
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    ikeonet1 reacted to morezone in Your views on 1/10 gold coins?   
    1/10th definitely worth picking up if you ever see them at close to spot.
    On new issues, expect to pay around 15%.  I buy one of each as I collect them but I wouldn't stack them at that price.  The Panda and Somali Elephant however would be worth buying and holding as investments.  The premium on those should go up over the years.
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    ikeonet1 reacted to HelpingHands in Your views on 1/10 gold coins?   
    The coins which change designs are a better longer term hold than the brits and phils.
    @ikeonet1 did a good video on fractional gold a month or so ago if you can search it out on youtube.
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