Roy

I've reported dubious coins to @ChrisSilver and the moderator team before and the sales posts have been hidden pending the seller's response. The system works well.
Remember, the admin team are enthusiasts, not experts, as are the sellers. I'm sure there is no malice involved, it's easy to make mistakes.
It's how the mistakes are rectified that matters. As Steve said,
That's what makes this forum the best.
 
As for the 'other' problem,
I completely agree, it's annoying. 

But wait...
Duncan is now a platinum business seller, his listings are comprehensive, well written, with great photos, specifications and reasonably priced. He's an asset to the forum as his many customers will testify.
Perhaps, and it's only a suggestion, he should have a dealer sub-forum or indeed become a forum sponsor? He needs his own space!
😊 👍

I've reported dubious coins to @ChrisSilver and the moderator team before and the sales posts have been hidden pending the seller's response. The system works well.
Remember, the admin team are enthusiasts, not experts, as are the sellers. I'm sure there is no malice involved, it's easy to make mistakes.
It's how the mistakes are rectified that matters. As Steve said,
That's what makes this forum the best.
 
As for the 'other' problem,
I completely agree, it's annoying. 

But wait...
Duncan is now a platinum business seller, his listings are comprehensive, well written, with great photos, specifications and reasonably priced. He's an asset to the forum as his many customers will testify.
Perhaps, and it's only a suggestion, he should have a dealer sub-forum or indeed become a forum sponsor? He needs his own space!
😊 👍

Made my day that 👍

Its only in the last year as the forum has grown and business members are charged higher fees  that it has become a big problem and unharmonious in my opinion.
Personally I only see it going one way if left unfettered, private individuals will just list elsewhere and stop looking in and the sales forum will simply become pages filled with dealers stock lists.

Interesting thread. 
 
As someone who's recently made the transition from collector/stacker to amateur trader to dealer, I am reading with interest and hearing what people are saying wrt the trade section, which is an important extension of the community, and can see that having it flooded with posts from a small number of members at the expense of other members is not conducive to the community spirit. 
I am always keen to hear feedback on my listings in the trade section, whether that be on the frequency, content, quality of offerings, pictures and price. I'll certainly be taking some advice from the comments here. I do feel it's excessive to list lots of items in individual listings so try to group items into listings to reduce the flooding. 
 
On the topic of the sections, I do totally agree that the current split of ungraded/graded is poor, and a more logical and even split to me would be:
Silver
Gold
Other metals (platinum, palladium, copper etc etc)
 
The ungraded section is way too busy. It is a jumble sale. But where ungraded is jumble, graded is tumble weed.
Split it more evenly as per the above and each section will strike a better balance of busyness. Posts won't be swamped out within an hour, and sections will get visited by buyer's according to what metal they're in the market for. 
Dealer sub forums I don't agree with, as they tend to be mostly ignored and under-utilised with a couple of notable exceptions

2022 1oz Bullion Ronseal   Nothing to get too excited about in this wee collection, although it is good to see that both the Elephants' legs all reach the ground. So much more fortunate than several African leaders who disagreed with the 'flu-like pandemic that never wrought havoc across the continent. Their refusal to deceive their own people most certainly did not result in their assassinations. Just accidents, coincidences and "covid". They were not hanged for their opposition.   The Kook is good but does lend more than a nod to the 2020 RAM WMF 1oz coin. The vast majority of both 2021/22 Kookaburras are believed to have badly damaged and deformed, this following encounters with Queensland Police when the coins were being transported across State boundaries. Just doing their job.   It is well worth picking up a New Zealand 2020 Penguin. I agree with many that it the pictures do not to its 3-d effect justice. At around £30 and with a mintage of just 25,000 it is considerably better value than most 2022 bullion. Having been under 25,000 miles from somebody who coughed in 2020, most of the issue still have another 12 years quarantine still to complete. Coins are not legally allowed to be reimported to NZ due to the menacing risk of mass extermination of the already extinct bird.   The Maples continue to portray ERII in the most beguiling of fashions. She must be well chuffed. The only surprising element is that fascist Dictator Justin Castro didn't insist on the coin bearing his own portrait. This before he went into hiding from the Canadian people.   The Philly is yet one more Austrian Enigmatic Variation and can now only be purchased upon production of a vaccine passport, the sporting of a fylfot and the bellowing of three "Sieg Heils". Rumours of a forthcoming "Yellow Star privy" edition have not been confirmed.  

Surely the 'dealers sub forum' was conceived to solve this?
The trade section is for private sales, no matter your membership status.

Surely the 'dealers sub forum' was conceived to solve this?
The trade section is for private sales, no matter your membership status.

Anyone have any counter argument or foresee any problems with this simple format ?  

As someone has already mentioned, its should be limited to x amount of posts in x amount of time, a bump being allowed once a day as it currently is, in my opinion.
however, if I were a dealer having paid what they are asked to pay id want my money’s worth too and that sort of limit would not be acceptable.
The sales format just isn’t geared up to handle the loading a few dealer can easily put on it, never mind once the normal members are added in, it’s no wonder people get annoyed and push the bumping rules.
The forum needs to decide what it wants to be or do something significantly different like an eBay type environment for sales.
Edit: I also agree about splitting out the metals for what its worth. But I also remember when the highest paying members at the time were asked their opinion @richatthecroft and most were on a similar page to what you propose, but were basically told no and something quite different happened.

Surely the 'dealers sub forum' was conceived to solve this?
The trade section is for private sales, no matter your membership status.

I've reported dubious coins to @ChrisSilver and the moderator team before and the sales posts have been hidden pending the seller's response. The system works well.
Remember, the admin team are enthusiasts, not experts, as are the sellers. I'm sure there is no malice involved, it's easy to make mistakes.
It's how the mistakes are rectified that matters. As Steve said,
That's what makes this forum the best.
 
As for the 'other' problem,
I completely agree, it's annoying. 

But wait...
Duncan is now a platinum business seller, his listings are comprehensive, well written, with great photos, specifications and reasonably priced. He's an asset to the forum as his many customers will testify.
Perhaps, and it's only a suggestion, he should have a dealer sub-forum or indeed become a forum sponsor? He needs his own space!
😊 👍

It would be much tidier and more consistent to follow the discussion section, yes.
Precious Metals Trading
Silver
Gold 
Platinum

It would be much tidier and more consistent to follow the discussion section, yes.
Precious Metals Trading
Silver
Gold 
Platinum

For Platinum, perhaps call it the PGM section to fill it up a bit?

Its reasonably popular Steve-  5,200 posts since March 2020 however, its still pointless separating ungraded and graded coins- coins are coins.  
 
 
Perhaps not in terms of volume and throughput of Platinum however,  @ChrisSilver decided to organise the Forum into distinct sections- Silver, Gold & Platinum and the Platinum discussion section certainly lags behind the Gold and Silver.
The main discussion sections are separated out-  yet the sales section is a complete mess- akin to a jumble sale.  
I feel like I'm the only person that has drunk from the Well here- doesn't it make perfect sense to split sales into the respective metal?
 
 

Yes, I remember seeing pictures of folk queuing up at gold dealers in Germany (or maybe Austria?)
I think they are just quiet about it. Who can blame them?

They own gold from the day they are born 😊

What is this data? I think it's practically impossible to quantify how much gold is held privately.
Do Czechs have to declare their holdings by law?
I think these are nothing more than estimates and most likely inaccurate.
No-one but me knows how much I hold and I'm sure you are all the same!
I would estimate that private gold ownership is very low in the UK- we care too much for other assets. Private gold ownership in Asia is another matter and we know that he who holds the most gold makes the rules.
Nothing funny to add, sorry 😊

I stay in the sticks where prices almost touch the cities of Scotland. A pint of imported eg moretti is £4.50. I don’t mind this as I don’t go out very often, every weekend would be another matter. 
Sticking to the thread, just ordered this set as really like it, cheers forum and OP

Is it your round?

8pm...4th pint...
Easy mistake!
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8pm...4th pint...
Easy mistake!
🤣

8pm...4th pint...
Easy mistake!
🤣

Sorry. I am a div.