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  1. I understand, one doesn't beget the other. However you have to work with some numbers somewhere. I don't know how Tether was funded so I'll take a stab and say most Tether holders aren't equity holders. This bodes well for Kinesis. On the flip side surely Tether users know of this stable coin that has yields and actual auditing and the ability to buy into the actual system. Where are the nearly 3000 wanting to pick up KVTS?
  2. Martlets said 627 but where does that info come from? https://etherscan.io/token/0xdac17f958d2ee523a2206206994597c13d831ec7 Says 2884 holders?
  3. 231 holders (let's call it a 3rd) hold 10kvt or more. I'm impressed!
  4. According to https://etherscan.io/token/0x3a859b9ea4998d344547283c7ce8ebc4abb77656 Kinesis now has 629 holders. That's positive!
  5. Can someone please explain the tables on pg 33 of the blueprint by way of words and an example? Im thinking that to 'revolve' that $50k say 5 - 50! times a month is the province of high volume traders. I'm not understanding this correctly I'm sure. Thanks in advance.
  6. Can someone please spell out the purpose of the wholesale currency? KWG and KWS? Is it just a beneficial price? ie ABX pick it up cheaper and pass through the savings or is there some actual function to it?
  7. With $61k KVT sold in what I am thinking are fairly small lots, could it be the case that Kinesis already has more than 627 holders and therefore could be said to be 'bigger' than Tether already on this thin metric? The assumption is built in that the KVT holders will be actual users of the system, not purely just KVT speculators.
  8. Yes! Kinesis can be used as a part of a trading platform/strategy in crypto's. i guess it can be used as well for trading stocks as a temporary safe haven but with the slight complication of having to convert in and out but I guess it's just keystrokes in another system to get it in (transfer from my bank to Kinesis and then I have to go to Kinesis and mint?). It's opening my eyes to other uses (not just the way I think I would use it)!
  9. I want to look at transaction assumptions made on pg 39 of the blueprint. Average Market Capitalization (USD) 7,824,194,352 45,862,973,550 105,595,759,080 233,394,791,580 384,265,166,400 Velocity 1 30% 30% 30% 30% 30% Days in Year 365 365 365 365 365 Yearly Volume (USD) 856,749,281,544 5,021,995,603,725 11,562,735,619,260 25,556,729,678,010 42,077,035,720,800 Transaction Fee % 0.45% 0.45% 0.45% 0.45% 0.45% Transactions Fees (USD) 3,855,371,767 22,598,980,217 52,032,310,287 115,005,283,551 189,346,660,744 Commercial Centre Transactions Share of Total Transactions (%) 0.5% 1.0% 2.0% 3.0% 3.0% Share of Total Transactions ($) 4,283,746,408 50,219,956,037 231,254,712,385 766,701,890,340 1,262,311,071,624 Average Commission Rate 5% 5% 5% 5% 5% Total Commission Income 214,187,320 2,510,997,802 11,562,735,619 38,335,094,517 63,115,553,581 KVT Share % 20% 20% 20% 20% 20% KVT Transaction Revenue (USD) 771,074,353 4,519,796,043 10,406,462,057 23,001,056,710 37,869,332,149 KVT Commission Revenue (USD) 42,837,464 502,199,560 2,312,547,124 7,667,018,903 12,623,110,716 Projected KVT Revenue (USD) 813,911,817 5,021,995,604 12,719,009,181 30,668,075,614 50,492,442,865 KVT Issued 300,000 300,000 300,000 300,000 300,000 Per KVT 2,713.04 16,739.99 42,396.70 102,226.92 168,308.14 Cost per KVT 1000 1000 1000 1000 1000 Yield NPV* (5% Discount rate) 271.30% 1674.00% 4239.67% 10222.69% 16830.81% 256,636.08 Below is from page 31 (Tether figures) Jan 17, 2018 1.03 1.07 0.997739 1.01 5,588,840,000 1,671,280,000 334.40% Looking at market cap in red, it shows an average market cap 4 x greater then Tethers. How is this justified? Having said that, the velocity value given (in blue) is 10x less for this day although average is somewhere between about 100 to 200% (ish). Given the large discrepancy on the velocity, is this recognition of what Martlet has said? Just to get this straight. On Jan 17 Tether had 1.67B USD in the bank (supposedly) and it got turned over 3.3x? That's A LOT of trading (buying and selling). Is the Kinesis comparison saying I might have deposited say $50k and spend about $15k a year? If the system had 365 users this works out to a velocity of 30% ??
  10. Well done Martlet! Very good insight of the 627 holders. I like facts. My understanding of what you just said.... KAU and KAG are touted as a means of moving fundsfor real world purposes. KAU / KAG transactions volumes are based on Tether transactions. However, Tether is only really being used in the crypto world by a few largeish players to buy and sell crypto - not sending money to ma and pa back home.
  11. I'm the wrong guy to ask. Part of my problem is that I'm not in the crypto space and I'm not qualified to answer. Sorry.
  12. No! My intention is to understand what is being offered to evaluate risk. Ref my post on Telegram. The sheeple operate on Faith, Trust and being Positive of the Fed, BoJ, ECB, RBA etc etc and look where that got us. The trouble with the blueprint is that the assumptions are not fully explained. So now I have to start asking questions. New post coming on that. I WANT to believe Kinesis is THE alternative. I WANT to buy KVT's but I NEED to be satisfied on some of the finer unexplained details.
  13. I know but a decision to buy KVT is based on KAU / KAG turnover. Good point. mmm I thought I had to have a Kinesis account to receive your Kinesis for me to eventually cash out as AUD? That's what stops you. This goes back to the point of the employees who just want AUD and don't give a terrible about it going to zero cos they don't have any to worry about. Now, if we could get KAU / KAG to appear as AUD in say a CBA account (as you just implied) the doors would be blown off this sucker! Don't need to convert the converted! Just evaluating risks in the proposed alternatives. I wonder if the fiat is audited as well? Don't need a Tetheresque fiasco even if it's just the side game. Best to keep Kinesis squeaky clean. Maybe I'll buy 10 soon and if the offer gets close to being fully subscribed I'll pick up 5 more. The research and understanding continues...