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  1. I agree officially given reasons cannot be trusted. That is because governments cannot be trusted. Everyone who does, has lost control over his life. So yes, it wouldn't suprise me at all if the real reason was another one.
  2. The officially given reason was it's safer in the US in case of a Soviet invasion of West Germany. Most of the German gold is back by now I think, if not all if it. There was a guy who started an initiative "bring our gold back" or something along these lines, maybe about 10 years ago, asking why it's still not back 20 years after the end of the Cold War. He is now in the Bundestag for the AfD and economically a supporter of the Austrian School of economics, so they do have people that know what a proper monetary system should look like.
  3. Yup, first one right, ca 9000 tonnes which means ca 2.9 ounces per German, in average.
  4. I have heard the figure from the CEO of Germany's biggest gold dealer. He didn't know how many Germans have gold but he stated a figure for the total gold. Not what the Bundesbank has got but the private possesion of it. Have a guess! I will tell the figure after a few guesses or confirm it in case someone else knows it. It would also be interesting to know how much gold the British have and the Americans but unfortunately, I don't know that. Unfortunately, It's certainly considerably less for the UK than for Germany, you can tell from the number of gold dealers in both countries.
  5. I didn't belittle you but wanted to express, I think the crisis is about to come for sure. I tried to say in an understatement, sorry it sound belittling to you. And, no, I won't help the NHS, I would rather have it abolished and replaced with private health care. Then I wouldn't pay for it, get nothing out of it and be asked to work for them for free on top of it and probably it would become more apparent than it is anyway that Corona is a normal seasonal flu. In any case with less government poor people wouldn't be that poor and could afford much better private health care for probably ÂŁ100 a month.
  6. I guess I will need to dig deeper to get the exact reason but it's already clear it's linked to the funeral bans and not based on a high mortality.
  7. If the mortality is lower or the same as in previous years: Government: Because of the measurments. If the mortality is higer, in the next weeks: Without these measurments it would have been even higher It's a win win for them, indeed. I agree, focusing on Sweden (or Brazil or Belarus) that haven't introduced harsh measurments is the way to go, based on logic. Taking into account emotions, addressing the lorries with corpses in Italy, is important too. People can be convinced and then see a video about these lorries on fakebook and out the window it goes, all the reason that was applied before and it's back to panic mode.
  8. "There Are No Funerals:' Death in Quarantine Leaves Nowhere to Grieve The Italian army sent 50 troops and 15 trucks to Bergamo on Wednesday to take bodies to less overwhelmed provinces." It's not entirely clear to me why they are shipping them around but it's clearly linked to the funeral ban. I think it might be so they have more fear porn picures. When I looked it up yesterday, I also saw the spike. When I had looked it up a few days ago, there was no clear spike yet. But as said before, the measurements against the virus will increase the mortality and Italy introduced the harsh measurements first. So, I think we might see a bigger spike in Italy, in the next update.
  9. So, I have collected some important Corona related links, some of which I have posted here before, others are new. I might update it, at later point. @sixgun It contains the links about the banned funerals in Italy. Very low test accuracy: Coronavirus Test Kits Sent to States Are Flawed, C.D.C. Says Some tests distributed by the agency deliver “inconclusive” readings. The C.D.C. will need to ship new ingredients, further delaying results. The accuracy rate of the test is only 30 to 50 per cent, said Wang Chen, president of the Chinese Academy of Medical Sciences Peinlicher Rückschlag für Spanien Das Gesundheitsministerium musste 58.000 Schnelltests an den chinesischen Hersteller zurückschicken. Nachdem die ersten 9000 davon an Kliniken in Madrid verteilt worden waren, stellte das „Instituto de Salud Carlos III.“ fest, dass ihre Zuverlässigkeit nur bei 30 Prozent liege. Sie gehörten zu den neuen 640.000 Schnelltests aus China, die die spanische Regierung angekündigt hat, um endlich seinen internationalen Rückstand aufzuholen. An embarrassing setback for Spain The Ministry of Health had to send 58,000 rapid tests back to the Chinese manufacturer. After the first 9,000 had been distributed to clinics in Madrid, the "Instituto de Salud Carlos III." Found that their reliability was only 30 percent. They were among the new 640,000 rapid tests from China that the Spanish government has announced to finally make up its international gap. Google translation link above doesn't work but you can translate the original paragraph and translate it in google translate. Potential false-positive rate among the 'asymptomatic infected individuals' in close contacts of COVID-19 patients Results: When the infection rate of the close contacts and the sensitivity and specificity of reported results were taken as the point estimates, the positive predictive value of the active screening was only 19.67%, in contrast, the false-positive rate of positive results was 80.33%. The multivariate-probabilistic sensitivity analysis results supported the base-case findings, with a 75% probability for the false-positive rate of positive results over 47%. Are coronavirus tests flawed? Medics, who say it's not as bad as the government: Compared to influenza, the symptoms of coronavirus disease are different, according to Assadian: The medical director of the State Hospital Neunkirchen Ojan Assadian does not believe that the deaths in Italy are only due to the corona virus “Today, after analyzing over 90,000 patients, we know that we have a virus here that causes mild symptoms, if any, at all. Basically like a mild flu-like infection. " Virologist Mölling warns of scaremongering virologist Prof. Dr. Karin Mölling says Corona is not a serious killer virus! The scaremongering is the problem. 12 experts question the coronavirus panic I have just added this section above last, there are many more, so I might add a few more, in a later version Vaccinations can cause flu like symtomps - possible explanation of North Italian figures (apart from false positives and the fact that the Italian mortality rate is lower than last year) Nirgendwo in Italien sterben so viele Menschen an den Folgen des Coronavirus wie in den Provinzen Bergamo und Brescia im Nordosten der Lobardei Nowhere in Italy do so many people die from the consequences of the corona virus as in the provinces of Bergamo and Brescia in the north-east of Lobardei Google translation link doesn't work but you can translate the original paragraph and translate it in google translate. Reported on Jannuary 18th 2020: Men Meningitis emergency, 34 thousand people vaccinated between Brescia and Bergamo "Last year 154,000 doses of flu vaccine were purchased and about 141,000 doses of vaccine were administered, of which approximately 129,000 to subjects over the age of 65, with a vaccination coverage of 56.2% - explains Dr. Giancarlo Malchiodi , Director of the UOC Preventive Medicine in the Communities, Department of Hygiene and Health Prevention, Bergamo ATS - 185,000 doses of vaccine have been ordered this year. The calendars with places and times for vaccinations are being defined by the ASST and will be available shortly on the ASST sites themselves ". Coronavirus: Vaccination can make the course of infection worse researchers suspect that vaccinations worsen the course of the infection. The consequences are severe inflammation and organ failure. Flu Vaccine Increases Coronavirus Risk 36% Says Military Study A recent military study shows military personnel evaluated who received the flu vaccine were at 36 percent increased risk for coronavirus with varied benefit in preventing some strains of the flu. Receiving influenza vaccination may increase the risk of other respiratory viruses, a phenomenon known as virus interference. Vaccine derived virus interference was significantly associated with coronavirus and human metapneumovirus; Examining non-influenza viruses specifically, the odds of both coronavirus and human metapneumovirus in vaccinated individuals were significantly higher when compared to unvaccinated individuals (OR = 1.36 and 1.51, respectively) Italy: High antibiotics resistance, "corona death cases" died for different causes The agency's Surveillance Atlas of Infectious Diseases contains, among other things, interesting information about the antibiotic resistance of residents of individual EU countries (Antimicrobial Resistance). The comparison between Italy and Germany is striking: Germany has a ratio of 0.4, while Italy offers an impressive 26.8. In plain language, this means that antibiotic resistance is problematically high in Italian patients, in other words: almost a third of Italians do not respond to antibiotics in the event of an emergency. 99% of Those Who Died From Virus Had Other Illness, Italy Says The Rome-based institute has examined medical records of about 18% of the country’s coronavirus fatalities, finding that just three victims, or 0.8% of the total, had no previous pathology. Almost half of the victims suffered from at least three prior illnesses and about a fourth had either one or two previous conditions. Italy: Low capacities of intensive care beds before Corona, transport of corpses in military vehicles because of funeral ban Austria and Hungary are also comparatively well positioned. Statistically, there are only around 3.2 hospital beds per 1,000 inhabitants in Italy. The world leaders are Japan with around 13 beds and South Korea with around 12.3 beds. It is important to note the density of intensive care care. In severe corona courses, patients must be treated in an intensive care unit and often artificially ventilated. According to the Ministry of Health, there are around 28,000 beds in intensive care units in Germany - and around 5,000 in Italy. Reported in Jannuary 2018: Milan, intensive care to collapse for the flu: 48 seriously ill patients already postponed operations Giuseppe Conte declares Italy a restricted zone Monday evening and announced the new regulation, which will come into effect this Tuesday morning The churches are also affected: Masses, weddings, baptisms and funerals are prohibited. 'There Are No Funerals:' Death in Quarantine Leaves Nowhere to Grieve The Italian army sent 50 troops and 15 trucks to Bergamo on Wednesday to take bodies to less overwhelmed provinces. A ban on gatherings has shattered the vital rituals that help us grieve, said Andy Langford, the chief operating officer of Cruse Bereavement Care, a British charity providing free care and counseling to those in grief. Electromagnetic waves causing “flu like symptoms” - high 5G coverage in North Italy and Whuan 5G network coming to Wuhan China officially launches 5G networks on November 1 [2019] US library of medicine: EUROPAEM EMF Guideline 2016 for the prevention, diagnosis and treatment of EMF-related health problems and illnesses. It seems necessary now to take "new exposures" like electromagnetic fields (EMF) into account. On the one hand, there is strong evidence that long-term exposure to certain EMFs is a risk factor for diseases such as certain cancers, Alzheimer's disease, and male infertility. On the other hand, the emerging electromagnetic hypersensitivity (EHS) is more and more recognized by health authorities, disability administrators and case workers, politicians, as well as courts of law. Common EHS symptoms include headaches, concentration difficulties, sleep problems, depression, a lack of energy, fatigue, and flu-like symptoms. Huawei installs 5G network in Wuhan’s Huoshenshan hospital Italy first in race to declare its 5G city TIM nominates Turin as “EU 5G Action Plan” city
  10. My defence will be, "at least I didn't committ Wonger Think"
  11. I think, I might be wrong but I think we are heading for rain somewhere in the UK, in 2020/2021. But I might be wrong.
  12. You assume it. It will look into how widespread it is. Maybe in South Koreas they use them a lot (the mortality there is also within the range of the normal seasonal flu), but I doubt they use them a lot in Italy, for example
  13. I certainly wouldn't believe the Chinese government a word (not many governments, to be sure) but there is no indication they have downplayed their numbers. Rather they created a panic based on nothing, see the discussion about the test. Why would they create a panic out of nothing...maybe because it gives them more power, so for the same reason as the European governments Coronavirus could be a 'catalyst' for China to boost its mass surveillance machine, experts say
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