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FoolzGold

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  1. I'm reminded of Obi-Wan Kenobi explaining the Jedi mind trick to Luke: "The Force can have a strong influence on the weak-minded." Just replace "The Force" with "YouTube" and it all becomes clear.
  2. In that case at least you still paid less per coin than you would have through any other source at the time. Your only regret is that you could have had an even better deal. As regrets go that's not so bad. Like you I still don't understand why GSBe have their QB monster boxes listed at higher prices than the individual coins. This doesn't seem to be a one-off thing as I've noticed it before and it's still the case today.
  3. At least you've saved me the trouble of asking, as I was looking at the price of the QB Monster Boxes on GSBe when I read a post the other day mentioning them and was wondering why they were priced higher per unit than individual coins. Seemed like a lot for a big plastic box and some small plastic tubes. To be honest I would think this is something you would have checked before buying. Shelling out 7k€ without working out the unit cost and seeing how much you were saving (or in this case paying as a premium) over buying individually seems like it should be a first step rather than an afterthought. In any case in the long run these are likely to appreciate significantly and make the difference largely irrelevant.
  4. Plenty of good sense replies above. Personally I dabbled in various silver bullion coins before coming to the conclusion that currently the 2oz and 10oz QB bullion coins seem to be the best bet at present. At worst they are bullion coins at a very small premium over the bog-standard bullion coins like the kangaroo and maple leaf. And they (imho) look much nicer. At best they appear to be gaining a very healthy semi-numismatic premium as they go out of production, something that will never be the case with the standard bullion coins. There are a couple of other designs I buy because I like the look but otherwise it's QBs all the way for me.
  5. It can definitely be painful paying over the odds for one of the earlier coins but if you put it into perspective many people are happy to pay similar premiums on fairly large run bullion coins. Case in point: 2oz silver QB Griffin on GSBe now is 55.97€, or 27.99€/oz The new Perth Mint Simpsons 1oz Homer Simpsons "D'OH!" coin is priced at 26.18€. It's limited to 25,000 but that's still a bullion coin.
  6. Don't forget the bullion coin mintages (2oz Ag, 1oz and 1/4oz Au) are unlimited. They'll be producing as many as they can sell for one year from the release date. The comments above about selling out are for the proof versions.
  7. This thread is all over the place, but the sub-thread on physical gold/silver holdings is an interesting one. My understanding would be that even if the company is completely legitimate and does really hold 'your' physical gold, if the company goes under your PM is not going to simply get returned to you and off you skip into the sunset. You would simply be one of many creditors of the assets held by the company and if you were lucky enough that the company's assets actually exceeded its debts you might eventually (some years later) be paid off with some portion of your original investment/holding, after all the corporate investors had been paid off of course.
  8. Well @Wonger has certainly achieved something here - he's made @sixgun look like he's just another of the 'sheeple' being deceived by the 'man'. I'd doff my tinfoil hat to you, but I'm afraid it might dislodge my lizard-person mask. 🙄
  9. Gentlemen - it's tin foil hats at dawn. May the most fanatic conspiracy theorist win - or the one the [Rothschilds/Bilderbergs/illuminati/lizard people]* want to win! * insert your choice of world-order secret society here.
  10. Do they control the tinfoil hat market too?
  11. I think I passed you on the M20 the other day...
  12. It probably doesn't help if you've attached sharpened metal scaffolding poles to the sides and spend the day playing a flamethrower electric guitar on top of it.
  13. At this point it might be better to invest in tinned food, toilet paper, and Mad Max style vehicles. Apart from Brexit there doesn't seem to be any need to rush-order these unless you're pretty certain Ag and Au prices are going to keep climbing over the next year. Personally I find the current prices pretty painful to look at. I'll maybe wait for a bit of a drop in spot price to take advantage of before I buy these.
  14. This was always going to be a challenging design given the nature of the beast (so to speak). Personally I think the end result is pretty unattractive as a coin if only because the creature itself is pretty hideous. I'll get one for completeness at least but not for aesthetics. That said, the least attractive coin in a series will often undersell and end up being worth more long-term due to supply and demand as people in future try to put together sets. BTW here's the gold version: https://www.lpm.hk/2019-1-oz-uk-the-queen-s-beasts-the-yale-of-beaufort-9999-gold-bullion-coin.html
  15. I must admit the donut looks great but the pricing is pretty sky high. Might pick up a bullion Homer but it's disappointing they're going to do a run of proof characters instead of BUs.
  16. I am offering a mint boxed unopened example of the legendary Perth Mint Back to the Future 30th anniversary 1oz silver proof coin set. This was released in 2015 in a limited edition of 7,500 and sold out on the day of release. The coin itself is 1oz proof silver (Tuvalu). It is presented with a superb scale model of the Back to the Future DeLorean, complete with lighting effects. Price: 149 Euros (or £130). Shipping at cost to Europe (inc UK) 17 Euros (£15). For reference, an example of this set was sold on eBay.co.uk by The London Coin Company last week for £239.95.
  17. It would certainly be interesting to see how the later sales hold up against the earlier versions. I'm sure there's some fatigue that sets in as some buyers lose interest over such a long series. However, I also think there are quite a few new collectors that have discovered this series part way through its 5 year run and who will be readily buying the later issues but struggling to back-fill the older versions. In terms of rarity these are clearly bullion coins but they do have a semi-numismatic appeal. The Kookaburra is a bullion coin but despite being minted in 500,000 examples and being an unlimited run (over the years) they're still considered to have some numismatic value.
  18. In terms of designs it's not clear how much that has affected demand/sales. Personally I like the lion, but I like the griffin and dragon even more as coins, and the falcon is not far behind (particularly seen in person). I'm less keen on the unicorn but it's not bad looking. The bull is the only one I really don't much like and would only buy to complete a set. I would also note that the upcoming Yale is going to be a serious challenge for the designers...
  19. As posted above by jultorsk (and then subsequently ignore by everyone else?) the clue is in the mintages. There are nearly twice as many Gold 1oz Lions out there as Griffins, Dragons, and probably of the subsequent coins too. In silver 2oz it's more like 30 to 40% more Lions vs Griffins or Dragons but that still makes it a far more common coin. For anyone looking to put together a complete set of either gold or silver the Lions are going to be the most readily available. Supply vs demand means there's no reason the common-all-garden Lions should retain a higher premium in the long run. I can't really comment on how many coins have been minted after the Dragon as we don't have the completed figures although partial sales looked similar to the Griffin and Dragon. @jultorsk
  20. It might also be worth your while considering some of the semi-numismatic products out there, with the Queen's Beasts series being an obvious standout. The margin on the latest 2oz bullion coin in the QB series (the falcon) is 20.1% vs 18.2% for the 2019 Britannia. Not a huge difference and the QB is a beautiful coin. However, you do need to consider how you might eventually resell the coins. If you're going to sell to a dealer who will only pay you spot whatever you give them then you're better off going for the lowest margin. However, it should be possible to sell a QB coin for more (perhaps much more) than spot in the future if you don't go the dealer route.
  21. Indeed, no changes for the last 67 years versus 5 changes of monarch in the 51 years from 1901 to 1952 inclusive. Back then they were a dime a dozen. 👑👑👑👑👑
  22. Out of interest, what happens to Royal Mint bullion coinage in the event of the death of a monarch? The Queen's beasts series is scheduled to carry on to September 2020 when the Queen will be 94. Now I wish her no ill will, and she shows no sign of keeling over any time soon, but just for the sake of argument lets say she has the Duke of Edinburgh drive her to the local Aldi and the worst happens... 🚙🔃💥 For bullion coins still being minted in the current year - e.g. the 2019 QB Falcon - presumably they would be obliged to switch the obverse design for a new one with King Charles and continue minting with those for the remainder of the year, meaning there would be two versions of the QB Falcon with different obverses. Presumably this might also apply to a second coin still being produced in the same year - e.g. today the 2018 Bull is still theoretically being minted up until March of this year. If they sold the existing stock of QEII Bull coins would they be obliged to mint further coins with King Charles's head until the end of the 1 year production deadline? I'm the first to admit I know nothing about this, so I'd be interested to hear from the experts.
  23. Once all animals have been officially used up they'll have to move on to microbes. 2020 E. Coli, 2021 Ebola... endless possibilities. 😉
  24. Good advice, but even if you want to, who can forget The Hurd?
  25. I would say if you're buying under an ounce sovereigns are a better bet due to the ease of selling. If your budget stretches to an ounce I'd have to recommend looking at the Queen's Beasts series rather than a Britannia. No matter when you sell it a 1oz Britannia is onl;y really going to fetch spot at best but any of the QB coins are likely to fetch a premium after the first year. Indeed at least at this stage the earlier out of production coins are selling for well over spot and this is likely to remain the case for the next few years as the series continues. It's difficult to say how these coins will be selling in 25 years but at worst they will do at least as well as Britannias.