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    ilovesilverireallydo got a reaction from CadmiumGreen in Today I Received.....   
    Received a stack of hammered coin reproductions that wee done custom for me in 999 silver. The guy does these the old school way with dies hammered onto the blanks. 
    List of what’s on there: 
    Penny sized coins:
    Baldwin Prince of Antioch
    Henry II of England
    Viking York
    Cnut 
    Viking Hedeby “Ship” Penny
    Athelstan
    Tomb of the Holy Sepulcher Denier
    Harold of Wessex
    William the Conquer 
    Charlemagne
    Elizabeth I 
    Alfred
    Robert the Bruce
    Eric Blood Axe
    Ragnald 
    Louis XI Denier
    Venice Grosso
    Almoravid Half Dirham 
    Coenwulf
    Philip II Half Reale
    Groat sized coins:
    Bezant
    French Gros
    Milan Gros
    German Groschen
    Knights of Rhodes
    Mary Queen of Scots
    Florin
    Ducat
    Louis XI Blanc
    James V Place
    Edward I-III Groat
    Omayyad Dirham
    Edward VI 6 pence
    Basil II Nomismata
    Byzantine Miliaresion
    Elizabeth I Crown
    May Queen of Scots Bawbee
    Philip the Good Double Mite
    Philip II of Spain 2 Escudo
    Jetton

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    ilovesilverireallydo got a reaction from nummum in Where should I start?   
    It depends on a range of issues, here are a few things to consider: 
    1. Storage - silver quickly adds up on storage and takes up a lot of space if you keep buying. If you are storing at home, safes will quickly overflow. 
    2. Exit strategy - how are you planning on exit? If you have to sell at a hats drop, then on silver you may take a hit. I always advice starters to buy close to spot whether its gold or silver. silver is harder to get close to spot, unless its junk silver (circulation coins such as British pre 47 coins with silver content from 92.5% to 50% silver in them)
    3. Again, when starting out, if you are in it just for the "store of wealth" argument of PMs then buy the lowest value bullion which can be sold quickly and stored easily - in which case gold sovereigns, cheapest at spot are a good option. 
    4. Understand your reason to buy PMs - as a store of wealth / savings, then low premium, safe buys. If "investment" then [premium coins which have potential to increase in value over time. (general precious metals arent really "investments" - they yield no returns. Usually best to see them as an inflation hedge. 
    5. Understand the prices and buy / sell speeds of various coin types - Britannia will always sell well  - if priced reasonably in the UK for example if silver, and sovereigns will do the same for gold in the UK. 
     
     
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    ilovesilverireallydo got a reaction from richatthecroft in Today I Received.....   
    Received a stack of hammered coin reproductions that wee done custom for me in 999 silver. The guy does these the old school way with dies hammered onto the blanks. 
    List of what’s on there: 
    Penny sized coins:
    Baldwin Prince of Antioch
    Henry II of England
    Viking York
    Cnut 
    Viking Hedeby “Ship” Penny
    Athelstan
    Tomb of the Holy Sepulcher Denier
    Harold of Wessex
    William the Conquer 
    Charlemagne
    Elizabeth I 
    Alfred
    Robert the Bruce
    Eric Blood Axe
    Ragnald 
    Louis XI Denier
    Venice Grosso
    Almoravid Half Dirham 
    Coenwulf
    Philip II Half Reale
    Groat sized coins:
    Bezant
    French Gros
    Milan Gros
    German Groschen
    Knights of Rhodes
    Mary Queen of Scots
    Florin
    Ducat
    Louis XI Blanc
    James V Place
    Edward I-III Groat
    Omayyad Dirham
    Edward VI 6 pence
    Basil II Nomismata
    Byzantine Miliaresion
    Elizabeth I Crown
    May Queen of Scots Bawbee
    Philip the Good Double Mite
    Philip II of Spain 2 Escudo
    Jetton

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    ilovesilverireallydo got a reaction from Big23 in Today I Received.....   
    Received a stack of hammered coin reproductions that wee done custom for me in 999 silver. The guy does these the old school way with dies hammered onto the blanks. 
    List of what’s on there: 
    Penny sized coins:
    Baldwin Prince of Antioch
    Henry II of England
    Viking York
    Cnut 
    Viking Hedeby “Ship” Penny
    Athelstan
    Tomb of the Holy Sepulcher Denier
    Harold of Wessex
    William the Conquer 
    Charlemagne
    Elizabeth I 
    Alfred
    Robert the Bruce
    Eric Blood Axe
    Ragnald 
    Louis XI Denier
    Venice Grosso
    Almoravid Half Dirham 
    Coenwulf
    Philip II Half Reale
    Groat sized coins:
    Bezant
    French Gros
    Milan Gros
    German Groschen
    Knights of Rhodes
    Mary Queen of Scots
    Florin
    Ducat
    Louis XI Blanc
    James V Place
    Edward I-III Groat
    Omayyad Dirham
    Edward VI 6 pence
    Basil II Nomismata
    Byzantine Miliaresion
    Elizabeth I Crown
    May Queen of Scots Bawbee
    Philip the Good Double Mite
    Philip II of Spain 2 Escudo
    Jetton

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    ilovesilverireallydo got a reaction from kimchi in Where should I start?   
    It depends on a range of issues, here are a few things to consider: 
    1. Storage - silver quickly adds up on storage and takes up a lot of space if you keep buying. If you are storing at home, safes will quickly overflow. 
    2. Exit strategy - how are you planning on exit? If you have to sell at a hats drop, then on silver you may take a hit. I always advice starters to buy close to spot whether its gold or silver. silver is harder to get close to spot, unless its junk silver (circulation coins such as British pre 47 coins with silver content from 92.5% to 50% silver in them)
    3. Again, when starting out, if you are in it just for the "store of wealth" argument of PMs then buy the lowest value bullion which can be sold quickly and stored easily - in which case gold sovereigns, cheapest at spot are a good option. 
    4. Understand your reason to buy PMs - as a store of wealth / savings, then low premium, safe buys. If "investment" then [premium coins which have potential to increase in value over time. (general precious metals arent really "investments" - they yield no returns. Usually best to see them as an inflation hedge. 
    5. Understand the prices and buy / sell speeds of various coin types - Britannia will always sell well  - if priced reasonably in the UK for example if silver, and sovereigns will do the same for gold in the UK. 
     
     
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    ilovesilverireallydo got a reaction from h103efa in Where should I start?   
    It depends on a range of issues, here are a few things to consider: 
    1. Storage - silver quickly adds up on storage and takes up a lot of space if you keep buying. If you are storing at home, safes will quickly overflow. 
    2. Exit strategy - how are you planning on exit? If you have to sell at a hats drop, then on silver you may take a hit. I always advice starters to buy close to spot whether its gold or silver. silver is harder to get close to spot, unless its junk silver (circulation coins such as British pre 47 coins with silver content from 92.5% to 50% silver in them)
    3. Again, when starting out, if you are in it just for the "store of wealth" argument of PMs then buy the lowest value bullion which can be sold quickly and stored easily - in which case gold sovereigns, cheapest at spot are a good option. 
    4. Understand your reason to buy PMs - as a store of wealth / savings, then low premium, safe buys. If "investment" then [premium coins which have potential to increase in value over time. (general precious metals arent really "investments" - they yield no returns. Usually best to see them as an inflation hedge. 
    5. Understand the prices and buy / sell speeds of various coin types - Britannia will always sell well  - if priced reasonably in the UK for example if silver, and sovereigns will do the same for gold in the UK. 
     
     
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    ilovesilverireallydo got a reaction from Fastnick in Where should I start?   
    It depends on a range of issues, here are a few things to consider: 
    1. Storage - silver quickly adds up on storage and takes up a lot of space if you keep buying. If you are storing at home, safes will quickly overflow. 
    2. Exit strategy - how are you planning on exit? If you have to sell at a hats drop, then on silver you may take a hit. I always advice starters to buy close to spot whether its gold or silver. silver is harder to get close to spot, unless its junk silver (circulation coins such as British pre 47 coins with silver content from 92.5% to 50% silver in them)
    3. Again, when starting out, if you are in it just for the "store of wealth" argument of PMs then buy the lowest value bullion which can be sold quickly and stored easily - in which case gold sovereigns, cheapest at spot are a good option. 
    4. Understand your reason to buy PMs - as a store of wealth / savings, then low premium, safe buys. If "investment" then [premium coins which have potential to increase in value over time. (general precious metals arent really "investments" - they yield no returns. Usually best to see them as an inflation hedge. 
    5. Understand the prices and buy / sell speeds of various coin types - Britannia will always sell well  - if priced reasonably in the UK for example if silver, and sovereigns will do the same for gold in the UK. 
     
     
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    ilovesilverireallydo got a reaction from AndrewSL76 in Today I Received.....   
    Received a stack of hammered coin reproductions that wee done custom for me in 999 silver. The guy does these the old school way with dies hammered onto the blanks. 
    List of what’s on there: 
    Penny sized coins:
    Baldwin Prince of Antioch
    Henry II of England
    Viking York
    Cnut 
    Viking Hedeby “Ship” Penny
    Athelstan
    Tomb of the Holy Sepulcher Denier
    Harold of Wessex
    William the Conquer 
    Charlemagne
    Elizabeth I 
    Alfred
    Robert the Bruce
    Eric Blood Axe
    Ragnald 
    Louis XI Denier
    Venice Grosso
    Almoravid Half Dirham 
    Coenwulf
    Philip II Half Reale
    Groat sized coins:
    Bezant
    French Gros
    Milan Gros
    German Groschen
    Knights of Rhodes
    Mary Queen of Scots
    Florin
    Ducat
    Louis XI Blanc
    James V Place
    Edward I-III Groat
    Omayyad Dirham
    Edward VI 6 pence
    Basil II Nomismata
    Byzantine Miliaresion
    Elizabeth I Crown
    May Queen of Scots Bawbee
    Philip the Good Double Mite
    Philip II of Spain 2 Escudo
    Jetton

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    ilovesilverireallydo got a reaction from Ansel in Today I Received.....   
    Received a stack of hammered coin reproductions that wee done custom for me in 999 silver. The guy does these the old school way with dies hammered onto the blanks. 
    List of what’s on there: 
    Penny sized coins:
    Baldwin Prince of Antioch
    Henry II of England
    Viking York
    Cnut 
    Viking Hedeby “Ship” Penny
    Athelstan
    Tomb of the Holy Sepulcher Denier
    Harold of Wessex
    William the Conquer 
    Charlemagne
    Elizabeth I 
    Alfred
    Robert the Bruce
    Eric Blood Axe
    Ragnald 
    Louis XI Denier
    Venice Grosso
    Almoravid Half Dirham 
    Coenwulf
    Philip II Half Reale
    Groat sized coins:
    Bezant
    French Gros
    Milan Gros
    German Groschen
    Knights of Rhodes
    Mary Queen of Scots
    Florin
    Ducat
    Louis XI Blanc
    James V Place
    Edward I-III Groat
    Omayyad Dirham
    Edward VI 6 pence
    Basil II Nomismata
    Byzantine Miliaresion
    Elizabeth I Crown
    May Queen of Scots Bawbee
    Philip the Good Double Mite
    Philip II of Spain 2 Escudo
    Jetton

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    ilovesilverireallydo got a reaction from Zhorro in Today I Received.....   
    Received a stack of hammered coin reproductions that wee done custom for me in 999 silver. The guy does these the old school way with dies hammered onto the blanks. 
    List of what’s on there: 
    Penny sized coins:
    Baldwin Prince of Antioch
    Henry II of England
    Viking York
    Cnut 
    Viking Hedeby “Ship” Penny
    Athelstan
    Tomb of the Holy Sepulcher Denier
    Harold of Wessex
    William the Conquer 
    Charlemagne
    Elizabeth I 
    Alfred
    Robert the Bruce
    Eric Blood Axe
    Ragnald 
    Louis XI Denier
    Venice Grosso
    Almoravid Half Dirham 
    Coenwulf
    Philip II Half Reale
    Groat sized coins:
    Bezant
    French Gros
    Milan Gros
    German Groschen
    Knights of Rhodes
    Mary Queen of Scots
    Florin
    Ducat
    Louis XI Blanc
    James V Place
    Edward I-III Groat
    Omayyad Dirham
    Edward VI 6 pence
    Basil II Nomismata
    Byzantine Miliaresion
    Elizabeth I Crown
    May Queen of Scots Bawbee
    Philip the Good Double Mite
    Philip II of Spain 2 Escudo
    Jetton

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    ilovesilverireallydo got a reaction from Wolves in Today I Received.....   
    Received a stack of hammered coin reproductions that wee done custom for me in 999 silver. The guy does these the old school way with dies hammered onto the blanks. 
    List of what’s on there: 
    Penny sized coins:
    Baldwin Prince of Antioch
    Henry II of England
    Viking York
    Cnut 
    Viking Hedeby “Ship” Penny
    Athelstan
    Tomb of the Holy Sepulcher Denier
    Harold of Wessex
    William the Conquer 
    Charlemagne
    Elizabeth I 
    Alfred
    Robert the Bruce
    Eric Blood Axe
    Ragnald 
    Louis XI Denier
    Venice Grosso
    Almoravid Half Dirham 
    Coenwulf
    Philip II Half Reale
    Groat sized coins:
    Bezant
    French Gros
    Milan Gros
    German Groschen
    Knights of Rhodes
    Mary Queen of Scots
    Florin
    Ducat
    Louis XI Blanc
    James V Place
    Edward I-III Groat
    Omayyad Dirham
    Edward VI 6 pence
    Basil II Nomismata
    Byzantine Miliaresion
    Elizabeth I Crown
    May Queen of Scots Bawbee
    Philip the Good Double Mite
    Philip II of Spain 2 Escudo
    Jetton

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    ilovesilverireallydo got a reaction from Gildeon in Today I Received.....   
    Received a stack of hammered coin reproductions that wee done custom for me in 999 silver. The guy does these the old school way with dies hammered onto the blanks. 
    List of what’s on there: 
    Penny sized coins:
    Baldwin Prince of Antioch
    Henry II of England
    Viking York
    Cnut 
    Viking Hedeby “Ship” Penny
    Athelstan
    Tomb of the Holy Sepulcher Denier
    Harold of Wessex
    William the Conquer 
    Charlemagne
    Elizabeth I 
    Alfred
    Robert the Bruce
    Eric Blood Axe
    Ragnald 
    Louis XI Denier
    Venice Grosso
    Almoravid Half Dirham 
    Coenwulf
    Philip II Half Reale
    Groat sized coins:
    Bezant
    French Gros
    Milan Gros
    German Groschen
    Knights of Rhodes
    Mary Queen of Scots
    Florin
    Ducat
    Louis XI Blanc
    James V Place
    Edward I-III Groat
    Omayyad Dirham
    Edward VI 6 pence
    Basil II Nomismata
    Byzantine Miliaresion
    Elizabeth I Crown
    May Queen of Scots Bawbee
    Philip the Good Double Mite
    Philip II of Spain 2 Escudo
    Jetton

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    ilovesilverireallydo got a reaction from AgD in Today I Received.....   
    Received a stack of hammered coin reproductions that wee done custom for me in 999 silver. The guy does these the old school way with dies hammered onto the blanks. 
    List of what’s on there: 
    Penny sized coins:
    Baldwin Prince of Antioch
    Henry II of England
    Viking York
    Cnut 
    Viking Hedeby “Ship” Penny
    Athelstan
    Tomb of the Holy Sepulcher Denier
    Harold of Wessex
    William the Conquer 
    Charlemagne
    Elizabeth I 
    Alfred
    Robert the Bruce
    Eric Blood Axe
    Ragnald 
    Louis XI Denier
    Venice Grosso
    Almoravid Half Dirham 
    Coenwulf
    Philip II Half Reale
    Groat sized coins:
    Bezant
    French Gros
    Milan Gros
    German Groschen
    Knights of Rhodes
    Mary Queen of Scots
    Florin
    Ducat
    Louis XI Blanc
    James V Place
    Edward I-III Groat
    Omayyad Dirham
    Edward VI 6 pence
    Basil II Nomismata
    Byzantine Miliaresion
    Elizabeth I Crown
    May Queen of Scots Bawbee
    Philip the Good Double Mite
    Philip II of Spain 2 Escudo
    Jetton

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    ilovesilverireallydo got a reaction from h103efa in Today I Received.....   
    Received a stack of hammered coin reproductions that wee done custom for me in 999 silver. The guy does these the old school way with dies hammered onto the blanks. 
    List of what’s on there: 
    Penny sized coins:
    Baldwin Prince of Antioch
    Henry II of England
    Viking York
    Cnut 
    Viking Hedeby “Ship” Penny
    Athelstan
    Tomb of the Holy Sepulcher Denier
    Harold of Wessex
    William the Conquer 
    Charlemagne
    Elizabeth I 
    Alfred
    Robert the Bruce
    Eric Blood Axe
    Ragnald 
    Louis XI Denier
    Venice Grosso
    Almoravid Half Dirham 
    Coenwulf
    Philip II Half Reale
    Groat sized coins:
    Bezant
    French Gros
    Milan Gros
    German Groschen
    Knights of Rhodes
    Mary Queen of Scots
    Florin
    Ducat
    Louis XI Blanc
    James V Place
    Edward I-III Groat
    Omayyad Dirham
    Edward VI 6 pence
    Basil II Nomismata
    Byzantine Miliaresion
    Elizabeth I Crown
    May Queen of Scots Bawbee
    Philip the Good Double Mite
    Philip II of Spain 2 Escudo
    Jetton

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    ilovesilverireallydo got a reaction from kneehow2018 in Today I Received.....   
    Received a stack of hammered coin reproductions that wee done custom for me in 999 silver. The guy does these the old school way with dies hammered onto the blanks. 
    List of what’s on there: 
    Penny sized coins:
    Baldwin Prince of Antioch
    Henry II of England
    Viking York
    Cnut 
    Viking Hedeby “Ship” Penny
    Athelstan
    Tomb of the Holy Sepulcher Denier
    Harold of Wessex
    William the Conquer 
    Charlemagne
    Elizabeth I 
    Alfred
    Robert the Bruce
    Eric Blood Axe
    Ragnald 
    Louis XI Denier
    Venice Grosso
    Almoravid Half Dirham 
    Coenwulf
    Philip II Half Reale
    Groat sized coins:
    Bezant
    French Gros
    Milan Gros
    German Groschen
    Knights of Rhodes
    Mary Queen of Scots
    Florin
    Ducat
    Louis XI Blanc
    James V Place
    Edward I-III Groat
    Omayyad Dirham
    Edward VI 6 pence
    Basil II Nomismata
    Byzantine Miliaresion
    Elizabeth I Crown
    May Queen of Scots Bawbee
    Philip the Good Double Mite
    Philip II of Spain 2 Escudo
    Jetton

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    ilovesilverireallydo got a reaction from Abyss in Today I Received.....   
    Received a stack of hammered coin reproductions that wee done custom for me in 999 silver. The guy does these the old school way with dies hammered onto the blanks. 
    List of what’s on there: 
    Penny sized coins:
    Baldwin Prince of Antioch
    Henry II of England
    Viking York
    Cnut 
    Viking Hedeby “Ship” Penny
    Athelstan
    Tomb of the Holy Sepulcher Denier
    Harold of Wessex
    William the Conquer 
    Charlemagne
    Elizabeth I 
    Alfred
    Robert the Bruce
    Eric Blood Axe
    Ragnald 
    Louis XI Denier
    Venice Grosso
    Almoravid Half Dirham 
    Coenwulf
    Philip II Half Reale
    Groat sized coins:
    Bezant
    French Gros
    Milan Gros
    German Groschen
    Knights of Rhodes
    Mary Queen of Scots
    Florin
    Ducat
    Louis XI Blanc
    James V Place
    Edward I-III Groat
    Omayyad Dirham
    Edward VI 6 pence
    Basil II Nomismata
    Byzantine Miliaresion
    Elizabeth I Crown
    May Queen of Scots Bawbee
    Philip the Good Double Mite
    Philip II of Spain 2 Escudo
    Jetton

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    ilovesilverireallydo got a reaction from Agpanda in Today I Received.....   
    Received a stack of hammered coin reproductions that wee done custom for me in 999 silver. The guy does these the old school way with dies hammered onto the blanks. 
    List of what’s on there: 
    Penny sized coins:
    Baldwin Prince of Antioch
    Henry II of England
    Viking York
    Cnut 
    Viking Hedeby “Ship” Penny
    Athelstan
    Tomb of the Holy Sepulcher Denier
    Harold of Wessex
    William the Conquer 
    Charlemagne
    Elizabeth I 
    Alfred
    Robert the Bruce
    Eric Blood Axe
    Ragnald 
    Louis XI Denier
    Venice Grosso
    Almoravid Half Dirham 
    Coenwulf
    Philip II Half Reale
    Groat sized coins:
    Bezant
    French Gros
    Milan Gros
    German Groschen
    Knights of Rhodes
    Mary Queen of Scots
    Florin
    Ducat
    Louis XI Blanc
    James V Place
    Edward I-III Groat
    Omayyad Dirham
    Edward VI 6 pence
    Basil II Nomismata
    Byzantine Miliaresion
    Elizabeth I Crown
    May Queen of Scots Bawbee
    Philip the Good Double Mite
    Philip II of Spain 2 Escudo
    Jetton

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    ilovesilverireallydo got a reaction from sovereignsteve in Today I Received.....   
    Received a stack of hammered coin reproductions that wee done custom for me in 999 silver. The guy does these the old school way with dies hammered onto the blanks. 
    List of what’s on there: 
    Penny sized coins:
    Baldwin Prince of Antioch
    Henry II of England
    Viking York
    Cnut 
    Viking Hedeby “Ship” Penny
    Athelstan
    Tomb of the Holy Sepulcher Denier
    Harold of Wessex
    William the Conquer 
    Charlemagne
    Elizabeth I 
    Alfred
    Robert the Bruce
    Eric Blood Axe
    Ragnald 
    Louis XI Denier
    Venice Grosso
    Almoravid Half Dirham 
    Coenwulf
    Philip II Half Reale
    Groat sized coins:
    Bezant
    French Gros
    Milan Gros
    German Groschen
    Knights of Rhodes
    Mary Queen of Scots
    Florin
    Ducat
    Louis XI Blanc
    James V Place
    Edward I-III Groat
    Omayyad Dirham
    Edward VI 6 pence
    Basil II Nomismata
    Byzantine Miliaresion
    Elizabeth I Crown
    May Queen of Scots Bawbee
    Philip the Good Double Mite
    Philip II of Spain 2 Escudo
    Jetton

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    ilovesilverireallydo got a reaction from CoinStruck in Today I Received.....   
    Received a stack of hammered coin reproductions that wee done custom for me in 999 silver. The guy does these the old school way with dies hammered onto the blanks. 
    List of what’s on there: 
    Penny sized coins:
    Baldwin Prince of Antioch
    Henry II of England
    Viking York
    Cnut 
    Viking Hedeby “Ship” Penny
    Athelstan
    Tomb of the Holy Sepulcher Denier
    Harold of Wessex
    William the Conquer 
    Charlemagne
    Elizabeth I 
    Alfred
    Robert the Bruce
    Eric Blood Axe
    Ragnald 
    Louis XI Denier
    Venice Grosso
    Almoravid Half Dirham 
    Coenwulf
    Philip II Half Reale
    Groat sized coins:
    Bezant
    French Gros
    Milan Gros
    German Groschen
    Knights of Rhodes
    Mary Queen of Scots
    Florin
    Ducat
    Louis XI Blanc
    James V Place
    Edward I-III Groat
    Omayyad Dirham
    Edward VI 6 pence
    Basil II Nomismata
    Byzantine Miliaresion
    Elizabeth I Crown
    May Queen of Scots Bawbee
    Philip the Good Double Mite
    Philip II of Spain 2 Escudo
    Jetton

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    ilovesilverireallydo got a reaction from Jamesd in 10oz britania bar capsule. Where to buy.   
    maybe @SilverStan can hook you up
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    ilovesilverireallydo reacted to universalcurrency in Ancient silver   
    Speaking to a coin dealer at a local antiques market he was of the opinion thatt there are a lot of good fake hammered coins, eg english post roman.  So I am not surprised that the scrap dealer sold them for spot.
    Lovely pieces by the way!
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