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Did I say you were just talking about bullion? No, because obviously you weren't. My point remains. The bullion is quite straightforward imo. They won't do a 1/4, the design doesn't allow it. A 2oz, a 5 oz? Maybe, but the 1oz is clearly 'the one to have' for the bullion collectors of the set. I only have the Lion and Griffin so bought this coin on its own merits as nice bullion at what I consider to be a pretty reasonable premium.

Isn't it quite straightforward with the Beast bullion gold though? The Beasts themselves 1/4 oz or 1 oz, the Completer 1 oz?

Received today, lovely as always, many thanks!

Is that because they are the only ones to ship to Denmark? What about Royal Mint Bullion? So there are no import taxes for you? Very good! It sounds like you can afford one ounce Beast Completor (available at Atkinsons of London or Chards at the moment, perhaps the Mint too) and one Sov. As you plan to just buy and hold for a long time, but economic troubles may occur very soon, I would agree with @Touvex and say Sovs. 1/10th coins (e.g. Britannias) carry far too high a premium unless you can find a bargain. Chards secondary market Sovs are sometimes very nice ones some people say (which may have a little collectable value or gain some in the future), or you may just wish to buy new ones (which won't). Let us know what you decide and good luck!

The Danes have surely loved their gold and silver throughout history? I bet people buy from the European dealers - you have great choice there. Niue is part of the Commonwealth and their coins are made by the New Zealand mint. Ignore those. I would go for the most recognisable European gold coins so @Touvex may well be right about Sovs for you, especially as your budget means you will need at least two fractional gold coins anyway. Rather than buy an ounce I would buy six or seven Sovs. Then you can add to them in smaller amounts as you can afford in future. If you do want an ounce and two fractionals (e.g. Sovs) the Completor Queen's Beast is out at the moment with a higher premium, but as long as you get the best price it may be worth more in future. What are your reasons for wanting gold? It seems maybe you just want the metal itself. If so you can't go wrong with basic Sovs, if you pay a little extra (as already said) there is a chance the value could grow slightly as a coin as well as the metal content. Do you have import duties or taxes for gold you order from abroad? If so, can you drive to a European dealer or seller on here to collect in person and bring back in your pocket?

I would also look at the coins of neighbouring countries you can drive to with a coin or two in your pocket.

What gold coins does Denmark mint? And what foreign coins are recognised and sell there? That may be a very good thing. Do you have coin shops and dealers in your country? You could be one of the first very sensible ones there! Not sure at all about this advice given where the OP is. Definitely, Sovereigns are one of the most internationally recognised and traded coins, but they fall behind Krugerrands. With the huge uncertainty in the world at present I would not rely on the popularity of what sells best on here, I would rather look to what can be sold from/within Denmark. @SilverFlame how much research have you done into this?

I thought this had a fairly hefty premium for bullion but the coin appeals to me. It's not just one of a 'set' it's desirable in its own right as a standalone. And then I had a look around at the price of a few coins like the Lion of Mortimer - blimey Is it still being minted? Who knows?!! The Royal Mint reps telling people 'no longer available' means it's not is nonsense. That's just their default website/stock selling position (though happy to be corrected here on this one - until then they could be right by accident imo, or they may be wrong). I'm intrigued to see folks pouring into Atkinsons though when Chards have them with a shortish wait at £11 or so cheaper. Is it just the asap delivery?

Any caps are fine to send, it's just you have to pay to get them returned. Some of course are harder to replace than others if you don't pay and think you or a buyer might like one in the future.

Can you get to London? If so NGC will show you how to fill the forms in. Once you've seen this once or twice you'll know how to do it yourself. It seems complicated at first but it's not Yes you can send coins in caps but you have to specify that and pay the $4 (don't know what it is in pounds now - I'm sure it's more!) for them to be returned. Otherwise transfer them carefully to non-PVC coin flips (protect them well if sending by post ofc).

Thanks for clearing up your position. I think I can ignore your posts with confidence now. Also thanks for bringing more attention to this thread and this very serious issue that SGB and Silvertowne are looking into as a matter of urgency.

Thanks! You'd have to compare with an NGC holder of the same size and type, probably much easier/more informative to look up online (although i can only find basic info on mine - weight and mintage). I wasn't even aware these existed, it should look lovely in that kind of size! Mine is something like 1/25th of an ounce - it came in a boxed set with an original stamp (actually not worth very much but very nice to have that kind of presentation!). Looking forward to the replies about your GEM/grading question

I believe GEMs are when NGC take a look at them and they're not 70s (or perhaps even 69s - ?) so you may be looking at between 65 and 68. May I ask how much the coin weighs as I have a similar one, but I believe mine is a 1/25 or similar?

These should be lightsaber proof

I think that scene in The Godfather would have been far more powerful and disturbing if Jack Woltz had woken up to find a pair of @HerefordBullyun's soiled undercrackers in his bed rather than a decapitated horse's head

My goodness, and on a Sunday too!

I'm not saying it's not possible (I'm no expert!) but I've never seen supposedly identical products test so differently on a Sigma (they usually are well within the brackets, and more often than not exactly in the centre), so imvho there is a serious question mark (for now) over either the production of the blank bars or the minting which hopefully will be properly addressed ASAP. Surface should not affect a Sigma (though it might a slide with a VERY deep relief). It's a shame a specific gravity test hasn't been done yet. Some silver coins do weigh more, this threw me off when I started buying. I emailed Perth Mint (about Kooks) and they told me that the weight specifications are a minimum and they can weigh a little more, but not much - there is an acceptable 'tolerance' level. Obviously mints are far more careful with gold than silver on this.

I don't think so - he'd already got the company to test some bars, had tried to buy 'Jenny's' bar to have it melted and tested, so was already very much 'on the case'. I see this 100% as a community service - and a good one. The point is there are very likely to be more, but people are much more likely to test if their attention is drawn to it. We'll see how many turn up. Artisan pourers are a completely different kettle of fish for many reasons. But to put it simply they are not a big company selling a homogeneous product which should be assayed. It's more comparable to the thousands of videos on Youtube about, say, Royal Mint quality issues. I didn't see any ego in SpegTacular's video, in fact I thought he was extremely measured and reasonable about it. The fun he poked at Jim was pretty tame if you asked me. If there was any then it doesn't affect the community service aspect in my book. There was certainly ego in Jim's rude replies, huge arrogance saying you can share these emails in public, and then banning him after saying he wouldn't. He's done the WSB far, far more harm than SpegTacular. How anyone can be that stupid I have no idea!

He was right to highlight it imo and did so in a reasonable and constructive way. If he hadn't then people wouldn't have necessarily tested their bars. The producer tested 3 of their bars so showed they took it seriously (quite rightly) - again I agree with him that this sample size is far too small. It's highly likely to be a batch problem. You don't get just one (say) .958 bar in a run of thousands, with all the rest being .999. Everyone should be testing their bars and imo the company should be contacting everyone who bought one.

A lovely coin and I am glad it exists, but very cheeky of the Mint really to make an 11th coin in a 10 coin set. There won't be a 1/4 gold proof either so I see these somewhat as a separate but obviously connected release. If I had a lovely boxed set like that I'd get the 'Completer' (blooming cheeky name too imo) and just keep it separate. But I do understand those who'd want them all together.

Happy to play mummy!

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My 3 remaining please BYB, just to confirm

I thought Concorde had been de-commissioned?

All that needs to be said imo. I don't know about some of the points (5 and 6 by themselves wouldn't worry me) but number 3 would stop me going ahead myself (with no idea who the member in question is, and casting no aspersions on them - it's just not the way I'm comfortable doing things).