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    Murph got a reaction from Nick1368 in 1932 gold Indian head   
    Was it you who beat me to the two of these that hgm sold recently?  They certainly went quickly along with the 5 dollars.
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    Murph got a reaction from Serendipity in Hatton Garden Metals - So what happened?   
    Of course if your coin was popular you’d have to be quick or lucky to see them as coins often go within minutes of appearing on hgm.  Given it may take them a little while to put them on the site as well if you’re just looking after they have paid you you migh have to sit for a while refreshing your page.
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    Murph reacted to whuamai in 20 Francs Advice Please   
    Made some pictures today when I visited my coins in the Bank.
    Very bad light in the basement so the pictures didn't come out very well. In real they look alot better.
     
    20 Lire Italy 1923, 1 year type, Mintage 20k
     

     
    40 Lire Maria Luigia 1815, two year type, Mintage 220 K
    40 Lire Napoleon 1814, Mintage 264 K
     

     
     
     
    20 Pesetas 1889,  three year type, Mintage 875 K
    20 Pesetas 1899, two year type, Mintage  2,1 Million, many melted down
    10 Pesetas 1878 (EMM), two year type, Mintage 90 K

    20 Franga Skanderbeg 1927, two year type, Mintage 5 K
    20 Franga Amet Zogu 1927, two year type, Mintage 6K 
     

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    Murph reacted to augur in 20 Francs Advice Please   
    And here is the complete date run:

    1879/1880 Monnaie de Bruxelles, 1886/1887/1888 Casa de Moneda Caracas 
    1904/1905/1910/1911/1912 Monnaie de Paris
     
    1879/80 and 1904-12 are alloyed with copper and then pickled, 1886-88 are alloyed with silver and from locally sourced gold (Guyana)
    The dies were always made by the Monnaie de Paris; while all coins are reeded, the reeding varies from mint to mint with a finer and slightly higher count in Bruxelles, more of a cogwheel reeding from Paris and a rather rough one from Caracas. (I haven't bothered counting)
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    Murph reacted to augur in 20 Francs Advice Please   
    The different colours gold can display...
    This is indeed an interesting topic and more prevalent in LMU or UML coins than e.g. sovereign or bullion gold. 
    Sometimes it has to do with the pickling: all coins below are 0.900 fine gold alloyed with silver

    Left Chervonetz ("red coin"), middle and right 20 Mark; during the pickling the superficial copper is dissolved from the planchets using a strong acid (e.g. H2SO4). Depending on duration and strength of the acid the result can vary as seen above. And while it looks as if there were no UML coins on the picture, the 20 Mark are most likely made from French Francs (reparations from the Franco-Prussian War 1870). 
     
    The other options is to alter the gold tone more yellow is to use silver in the alloy as in the 1887 Jubilee Sovereigns. In the few years the Mint in Caracas was operating, Venezuela did exactly this with its gold coins.

    the two left coins were minted in Paris and Bruxelles respectively and show the effect of pickling nicely while the two right Ines were minted in Caracas with gold from Guyana, the traces of arsenic in the gold give the greenish tint. 
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    Murph got a reaction from ilovesilverireallydo in Silversmiths marks   
    I'd bet on it being a makers mark.  Perhaps a GC.
     
    Also from what I can see of the lion it looks like a late 1750s onwards to maybe near the end of the 1700s which would fit with the way the marks are made.
     
    There's a George Camper in my big Jacksons under London 1751 but the surrounding lozenge shape doesn't match up.  Not that means the maker didn't use one like yours as well.
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    Murph got a reaction from HighlandTiger in Silversmiths marks   
    I'd bet on it being a makers mark.  Perhaps a GC.
     
    Also from what I can see of the lion it looks like a late 1750s onwards to maybe near the end of the 1700s which would fit with the way the marks are made.
     
    There's a George Camper in my big Jacksons under London 1751 but the surrounding lozenge shape doesn't match up.  Not that means the maker didn't use one like yours as well.
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    Murph got a reaction from Serendipity in George III sovereigns   
    Some dealers or auction houses offer to do free valuations via high res pictures or as others have said you can visit them and most will examine a few coins for free.  They will also come to your house but then you have to pay their expenses for a start.
    I can't recall which do this but I have seen it offered as I was looking for such a service to please insurance companies who seem to require you to do this every three years so if your valuation or receipts are older they won't cover you.
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    Murph got a reaction from Serendipity in Pieces of 8   
    Seemingly they grind the edges on some fakes to round them off because the casting leaves evidence.  This makes the edges rounded and often brighter as it's done after the fake aging. 
    Yours looks a bit rounded at the edges and shinier than the rest.
    This would make me a little suspicious.
     
    Fakes are often edged after the coin has been cast and real ones are edged prior to striking afaik so damage to the denticles can also be evidence of a fake.  The problem is there are so many different fakes of these and some are silver and some were made in the same time period as the real ones.  You'd really need to ask a collector who has experience with these.
     
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    Murph reacted to Hugo in Ancient silver   
    Nice
     
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    Murph got a reaction from Bullionaire in Pieces of 8   
    Seemingly they grind the edges on some fakes to round them off because the casting leaves evidence.  This makes the edges rounded and often brighter as it's done after the fake aging. 
    Yours looks a bit rounded at the edges and shinier than the rest.
    This would make me a little suspicious.
     
    Fakes are often edged after the coin has been cast and real ones are edged prior to striking afaik so damage to the denticles can also be evidence of a fake.  The problem is there are so many different fakes of these and some are silver and some were made in the same time period as the real ones.  You'd really need to ask a collector who has experience with these.
     
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    Murph got a reaction from Toshunya86 in Ukraine Bullion Coin - 1 Hryvnia Archangel   
    There's a difference between believing or respecting that someone has strength and the ability to use it politically and actually respecting them as a leader.  At least that's how I see it.
    That Western leaders back down more quickly than the likes of Putin shouldn't be surprising and I think Putin expects this and that's exactly why he uses intimidation.  He doesn't have to worry about keeping his position as much as European leaders and could probably do almost anything and still have considerable support at home.  Especially once the misinformation has been spread.
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    Murph got a reaction from Seasider in World War I Coins   
    I think his first wife was perhaps the great granddaughter of Charles X 
    As for the KIng of France or French I think it depends on their idea of Monarchy (supporting a constitutional monarchy) Orleanist being King of the French.
    While France was what the traditional, conservative senior branch Bourbons used iirc.
    At least iirc it's something along those lines.
     
    How many more have you got to get Augur?  Are you going for countries that came in later and didn't take a very big role like Brazil?
     
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    Murph got a reaction from DarkChameleon in Ancient silver   
    Some more ancient coins recently received.
    An Athenian owl, Justinian part stater, a Phoenician coin with Baal and a Macedonian Alex type.
    Sorry for the poor quality but they were taken with a phone but if anyone wants a better look I can try again.
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    Murph reacted to augur in World War I Coins   
    Romnia was split as to whom to side with during the war. With a Hohenzollern King (same House as the King of Prussia/German Emperor) the monarchy sided with the Central Powers while the people favoured the Entente Cordiale; to avoid a rupture Romania therefore remained neutral. Only after great promises (which mostly remained that) of war loans, supplies and troops did Romania finally enter the war on the side of the Entente on the 31/8/1916. The Romanian Army suffered heavy losses and Russia had to divert a third of her troops just to secure her own flank. As feared by Russian strategists, bringing Romania into the war was more of a burden than a relief and Romania had to sign a peace treaty with Germany only a year later. Germany on the other hand benefited from wool, grain and oil from occupied  Romania which kept the German war efforts going until the end. Only a day before the German capitulation did Romania re-enter the war and was able to secure large territories of Romanian ethnic majority. 
     


    1914 Romania 2 Lei (MS64) featuring king Carol I, who died the same year. He was succeeded by Ferdinand I. No currency was issued until the point of entry into the war. 
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    Murph got a reaction from Gildeon in Ancient silver   
    Some more ancient coins recently received.
    An Athenian owl, Justinian part stater, a Phoenician coin with Baal and a Macedonian Alex type.
    Sorry for the poor quality but they were taken with a phone but if anyone wants a better look I can try again.
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    Murph got a reaction from SILVERFINGER in THE LINK BETWEEN SILVER & SMURFS   
    Or don't want to know!
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    Murph got a reaction from goldmember44 in Fake Jubilee Shield Half Sovereigns (1887)   
    I was going to mention that but I thought it was more evidence of the royals being lizards and she'd just fed.
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    Murph got a reaction from AlL in Gold Sale! - Who was still buying 20 years ago?   
    Really £40?  I wasn’t actively buying or selling then but over 30 years ago I paid between £50 and £100 for the few I had depending on the age etc, and I seem to remember selling locally to jewellers for nearer £50.
    The lack of dealers and the internet made it easier for travelling dealers at the odd antique fair to overcharge.
     
    Maybe you didn’t see them for sale because dealers didn’t tend to leave them out on show although I seem to recall Hiram Brown showing me what looked, to my young eyes, like a huge stack  once when he was at a local antique (and coin) fair.  I can’t recall if he just kept them in his pocket or in a case but they certainly weren’t on show.
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    Murph got a reaction from Curious1 in A friend found this in his garden   
    A lot of animal bodies?  Now that’s a little worrying.  Was the owner attacking and killing animals?  Sacrificing them and the gold?  Is it a witches cauldron or a pot that he’s dug up?
    It’s all very strange.  Sounds like someone is setting up a found footage horror film background story!
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    Murph reacted to savoyard in Climate Change - Fact, fiction or somewhere inbetween   
    The Elite have also been trying to convince us that the Earth is not flat!
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    Murph got a reaction from SilverScoundrel in Where to get.   
    No foul.  
    There are members from all over but I think there are only a few that would pour their own silver and go to the trouble of getting a stamp made.
    There are a number of US members but I think the majority are based in the U.K.
    Who knows though, you may get lucky and someone here from the US will know of a good custom stamp maker.
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    Murph got a reaction from StackSellRepeat in French 50 francs Hercules coins   
    Worth your while looking.
    According to the french numista they are worth around double or more if in really good nick.
    https://fr.numista.com/catalogue/pieces681.html
    It shows you how to tell as well unlike the English site for some reason I see.
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    Murph got a reaction from dicker in To grade or not to grade   
    I wonder if it’s mainly younger people in the U.K. who like graded coins?  From what I’ve seen it certainly seems a lot of older numismatists don’t seem to like them so much but I may well be wrong.
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    Murph got a reaction from goldmember44 in New European Mint Group Orders - OPEN NOW!!!   
    Damn ups arrival date has been put back another 3 days for 11 days in total.   Just trying to decide if to just wait before putting in another order or to make one in the meantime.  I might just wait until they have the new bird of p in stock.
    If I order now something else I really want will appear elsewhere and I’ll end up spending more than I mean to.  
    I already missed a number of auction items yesterday when my presides were outbid by one bid at the end.  I tried the same tactic on my second last item and the earlier bidder won with an equivalent bid placed earlier.  Lol.  
    No luck.