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  1. Has it started to tone already or is it just the lighting?
  2. Of course if your coin was popular you’d have to be quick or lucky to see them as coins often go within minutes of appearing on hgm. Given it may take them a little while to put them on the site as well if you’re just looking after they have paid you you migh have to sit for a while refreshing your page.
  3. They are certainly getting worse and are milking it for all they are worth. A lot of proofs sometimes increase in price at first but once the novelty wears off the prices start to drop. I've picked up a number of proofs at a lower price after a couple of years or more.
  4. Old forgeries can be interesting and some people collect them. As long as they are advertised as being forgeries from the same period as the real coin I don't see a problem.
  5. Murph

    Silversmiths marks

    Yes and was popular up until the early 19th century but could still be found into the 20th occasionally.
  6. Murph

    Silversmiths marks

    I'd bet on it being a makers mark. Perhaps a GC. Also from what I can see of the lion it looks like a late 1750s onwards to maybe near the end of the 1700s which would fit with the way the marks are made. There's a George Camper in my big Jacksons under London 1751 but the surrounding lozenge shape doesn't match up. Not that means the maker didn't use one like yours as well.
  7. I think he's talking about the little bump that may just be a nick from the other side or edge that you've almost cut off in your close up. 5th star down from leaves on the rim. Gold is soft so nicks can happen easily. I'm sure you can examine it in person much better than we can from pics. Have you done a specific gravity/density test? That should be more decisive than just a ping, given you haven't other st gaudens to compare.
  8. Which reputable dealers sell them for around £1040 just now? Which is approximately spot plus 3%. bullion by post and others charge over £200 more for them and hgm charge over £1100.
  9. When I said recently I didn't mean that recent. It was a while before this thread. It may have had 22 in Arabic numerals and mm iirc which made me think it might be a jewelry copy.
  10. I have seen info stating the 1950 was minted at Lahore mint and then the 57 in Saudi and also other info saying the 57 was minted at Lahore. With patterns minted by the Royal mint as well. Who knows which are correct. I saw one of these on atkinsons recently but the picture did have the 22 which stopped me from buying it. I've had words with Atkinsons a couple of times about them listing single, dated coins and not actually using pictures of the coin you are buying. I've had a couple of very poor condition coins when the pictures have been of much better coins. They say they will give you an email picture if you ask but if it is a popular coin it will be gone before they get round to doing this.
  11. Was it you who beat me to the two of these that hgm sold recently? They certainly went quickly along with the 5 dollars.
  12. I always use the tips, where they are reduced in size to measure coins. For diameters I pull the coins through the jaws and repeat this so I get the largest reading possible.
  13. Art suppliers like https://www.greatart.co.uk/copper-etching-plates.html Cheaper than jewelry suppliers even though they overcharge as well. 15cm x 15 cm x 1mm 99.9 cu. is £5.99 Cooksons 15cm x 15cm x 0.9mm is £20.39 inc. VAT It might be worth looking at other artist suppliers like Jacksons, Cornellisons or model making suppliers like MaccModels or other metal suppliers like Blackburnsmetals.com
  14. Of course. They would mint millions for fun. Not many coin collectors over a hundred years ago.
  15. Murph

    Pieces of 8

    Seemingly they grind the edges on some fakes to round them off because the casting leaves evidence. This makes the edges rounded and often brighter as it's done after the fake aging. Yours looks a bit rounded at the edges and shinier than the rest. This would make me a little suspicious. Fakes are often edged after the coin has been cast and real ones are edged prior to striking afaik so damage to the denticles can also be evidence of a fake. The problem is there are so many different fakes of these and some are silver and some were made in the same time period as the real ones. You'd really need to ask a collector who has experience with these.