2017 Piedfort sovereign out soon

[arshimo2012]

https://www.thegazette.co.uk/notice/2771385

[Silverstackeruk]

They have to announce it first in a advert to see if anyone objects?

Will jump all over these

[Clens92]

Very interesting.  I wonder if this will generate the same level of interest?

Searching through similar notices, I see they are going to be releasing a 1/4oz Platinum Year of the Rooster coin!

https://www.thegazette.co.uk/notice/2771386

[Clens92]

12 minutes ago, Silverstackeruk said:

They have to announce it first in a advert to see if anyone objects?

Will jump all over these

It's less of an opportunity to object, but they have to declare the introduction of any new 'legal tender'.

[Silverstackeruk]

2 minutes ago, Clens92 said:

It's less of an opportunity to object, but they have to declare the introduction of any new 'legal tender'.

I see ...you learn something everyday..think I will object! ?

[MikeSol]

Expected to be released in July according to the Royal Mint

[Kman]

"for the reverse the image of St George armed, sitting on horseback, attacking the dragon with a broken spear surrounded by the inscription “HONI · SOIT · QUI · MAL · Y · PENSE ·”. The coin shall have a grained edge.’"

So it's the 1817/2017proof  design 

[Stu]

They can ram it right up their rear article for all I'm concerned, what will we get next, the super exclusive £10 sovereign? RM at their best. 

[Kman]

25 minutes ago, Stu said:

They can ram it right up their rear article for all I'm concerned, what will we get next, the super exclusive £10 sovereign? RM at their best. 

I actually don't mind it

Something a bit different

The first Piedfort sovereign

I will get one at least. 

[Pampfan]

I'm in - not missing this one

[HelpingHands]

Applying some logic if this is priced around £880 (?) and the standard sov is selling on ebay for £700 ish it's hard to see how these can go too wrong.

[Clens92]

It will be popular but secondary-market sales will struggle.  With the same level of markup, these will be on ebay for around £1300/1400 - that's a months wages for a lot of people; the affordability diminishes very quickly after £750 or so.

[Pampfan]

What is the difference between a proof strike and the piedfort strike?

 

[Kman]

58 minutes ago, HelpingHands said:

Applying some logic if this is priced around £880 (?) and the standard sov is selling on ebay for £700 ish it's hard to see how these can go too wrong.

I was thinking it will just be a bullion coin? so priced at around its gold content 

5 minutes ago, Pampfan said:

What is the difference between a proof strike and the piedfort strike?

 

Piedfort just means double as thick as usual 

So it will be a normal sovereign diameter just chunky thickness 

[barney]

A piedfort will be a proof strike but the coin will be twice the weight of the normal coin or double the thickness 

 

 

[Kman]

Doesn't make sense to me to release all the proof versions of the sovereign together then months later put a different one out

I just automatically assumed it would be bullion but all you guys are saying proof hmm

[fehk2001]

1 hour ago, Clens92 said:

It will be popular but secondary-market sales will struggle.  With the same level of markup, these will be on ebay for around £1300/1400 - that's a months wages for a lot of people; the affordability diminishes very quickly after £750 or so.

breakfast 1 piece of value brand bread....... lunch two pieces ..... dinner three pieces , sleep at 7pm to save energy ...... no bad habits

SORTED!

[sovereignsteve]

Piedfort doesn't necessarily need to be a proof but the RM tend to strike them as such.

Always thought they're a waste of time myself; if you're going to double the amount of metal then why not increase the diameter as well?

Oh, they already have the double sovereign!

[Pampfan]

Is it a high relief strike?

[Oldun]

The RM are going full bore. What are the odds on them doing a silver sovereign in the future ? If it purely about making new products at maximum profit, I would say it would be obvious but we shall see.

[Kman]

28 minutes ago, Oldun said:

The RM are going full bore. What are the odds on them doing a silver sovereign in the future ? If it purely about making new products at maximum profit, I would say it would be obvious but we shall see.

20 for 20 2013

[MickB]

It goes against the tradition of the sovereign and is just for the Royal Mint to get more sales. A traditionalist would hate it but who's going to run the risk of not buying one? All that potential hefty profit if they only ever do it once.

With all these new coins the Royal Mint have in the pipeline I think my kitchen renovation I have planned can wait a while longer 

[Oldun]

7 hours ago, Kman said:

20 for 20 2013

Specifically referring to the topic of 2017 only.

[sovereignsteve]

10 hours ago, Pampfan said:

Is it a high relief strike?

I would doubt it, the RM don't tend to go down that road. Think it would look awful as well.

[sovereignsteve]

20 hours ago, Kman said:

"for the reverse the image of St George armed, sitting on horseback, attacking the dragon with a broken spear surrounded by the inscription “HONI · SOIT · QUI · MAL · Y · PENSE ·”. The coin shall have a grained edge.’"

So it's the 1817/2017proof  design 

Yes looks like it'll be the 1817 G&D design, but no mention of the garter. I think it would have to be specified in this announcement if it were being used.