closed 2015 (new design) proof sovereign box

[watchesandwhisky]

Six of these available, £35 each delivered. They all have COA, outer sleeves and all packing.

[Silverhunter]

Why sell the coa with a box?

[watchesandwhisky]

This is how i got them, the original coins were most likely sent for NGC/PCGS grading. They make excellent display boxes for any sovereign with the appropriate royal mint capsule.

[Silverhunter]

would it not be better to destroy the Certs. as any potential buyer could use them to try and deceive any future buyers of their coins boxs are really nice sure they would sell

[watchesandwhisky]

I see what you are saying but dont think it matters to much, appropriate checks should always be done on a coin proof or not. and royal mint certs are really just for show. It just makes this complete packaging. 

[sovereignsteve]

19 minutes ago, Silverhunter said:

would it not be better to destroy the Certs. as any potential buyer could use them to try and deceive any future buyers of their coins boxs are really nice sure they would sell

In an ideal world the COA should be linked/tied to the coin in some way but difficult to see how it could be done. In the real world these things have a tangible value. In the future, it will be possible to buy the coins from broken sets and marry them with cases such as these. As cases go, these are very nice.

edit: are these all 2015? from the title I assumed they were 2017

[watchesandwhisky]

Yes Steve 2015, Il see if i can get the title changed, i meant new as the new glossy finish with movable shelf.

[sixgun]

i have some proofs without a box or COA but they are obvious proofs. They come from broken up sets. If and when i find a box and COA i will grab them. 

Some people might call that dishonest but the coins are proofs. 

[Silverhunter]

45 minutes ago, sixgun said:

i have some proofs without a box or COA but they are obvious proofs. They come from broken up sets. If and when i find a box and COA i will grab them. 

Some people might call that dishonest but the coins are proofs. 

It's only dishonest / boarder line fraudulent if you then sell them stating that said coin is the one issued with that cert number yes

[danmc82]

3 hours ago, Silverhunter said:

It's only dishonest / boarder line fraudulent if you then sell them stating that said coin is the one issued with that cert number yes

But how do you know the coin you buy from ANYWHERE has the correct cert with it? I'm sure the RM dont care which cert is given to which coin.

[Silverhunter]

40 minutes ago, danmc82 said:

But how do you know the coin you buy from ANYWHERE has the correct cert with it? I'm sure the RM dont care which cert is given to which coin.

Rm don't need to worry because they are the issuing body for that product.

[Pampfan]

I do not think it makes much of a difference if you match a 2015 proof sov with the 2015 proof sov certificate.  As long as the cert is for the same coin - there really is no way for anyone to know if the cert actually matches that specific coin as sold by the mint.

 Also - third party graders like pcgs or ngc will never put a cert number on a graded coin label. (For example if the cert # is 69, they will never say coin 69.). 

In the USA it is common for collectors who buy graded coins to also get the box and certificate to match.  (Graded coins and boxes are usually sold seperately to squeeze every last dime out of the collector)

 

[watchesandwhisky]

Bump, £32 delivered

[Pete]

This is a question that will never be resolved.
When you buy a new boxed proof coin with a numbered certificate are you buying a mass produced coin and a serialised printed certificate.
There is ( I am guessing ) absolutely no association between any specific coin and the certificate that is placed in the box.
I assume the packer takes a coin from a tray and a certificate from another tray.
If I am wrong please correct as I cannot imagine the coins are arranged in the exact order of minting so the first coin which should be given CoA 00001 might be given CoA 00050 assuming there are 50 coins in a tray for packing, likewise the 50th coin minted might get the number 00001 ?? The exception MAY (?) be when there is a very limited release say 300 coins in a much higher value coin with stringent QC.