Why are these so cheap

[RareAGstrikes]

Good prices here's here seem very cheap to me, 

 

https://sdbullion.com/silver/silver-bullet-and-silver-shield-collection/silver-shield-micro-mintage-releases

[morezone]

They're not flippers so maybe they don't need to make so much.

Maybe they have a deal with Duane and get ample supply of some of his products.

Maybe some pricing is out of date since they're out of stock and won't be restocked.

 

[Pete]

6 hours ago, RareAGstrikes said:

Good prices here's here seem very cheap to me, 

 

https://sdbullion.com/silver/silver-bullet-and-silver-shield-collection/silver-shield-micro-mintage-releases

Still more expensive than ASEs and Maples though if stacking fine silver - just checked APMEX prices to compare.

[MaxShiraz]

Doesn't seem that cheap to me. If you're looking to stack generic rounds I'd think these are a bad option. You can get cheaper, well-known generics from jmbullion or provident metals as a better option.

Remember that when you go to liquidate a coin or a round, you want a potential buyer to be able to recognize it as genuine. You'll always get that with a well-known Sunshine Mint or JM round.

[RareAGstrikes]

These are not generic rounds, they are very rare. I do mi take numismatic 

 

far are better than government mint low mintage proofs, so called limited edition when there are thousands minted, not especially rare

[sovereignsteve]

6 minutes ago, RareAGstrikes said:

These are not generic rounds, they are very rare. I do mi take numismatic 

 

far are better than government mint low mintage proofs, so called limited edition when there are thousands minted, not especially rare

they may be rare but is there a demand for them?

[Roy]

I had a dump this morning. Only 1 today,  that's pretty rare.

[onlyroadtoheaven]

7 hours ago, Roy said:

I had a dump this morning. Only 1 today,  that's pretty rare.

@Roy Forum rules clearly state that this sort of post should go in the trade section with a price attached! Experience shows that a photo will assist with a speedy sale.

[RareAGstrikes]

On 24 February 2017 at 22:49, shortstack68 said:

The mintage figures here are surprising, curious why they aren't more popular

http://www.perthmint.com.au/documents/Mintages/The Australian Silver Bu Privy Coin 2011 to 2017.pdf

Tens of thousands is not rare, not even mini mintage. If it's a few thousand that is mini mintage, if it's less than several hundred then that true micro mintage. This is rare.

 

if Perth mint did a good looking design without the queens ugly mug on the back that was truely micro mi gage then I would pay premium for them

by the way here is an excellent new forum about truely limited silver strikes

 

http://limitedsilverstrikes.freeforums.net

[sovereignsteve]

5 minutes ago, RareAGstrikes said:

if Perth mint did a good looking design without the queens ugly mug on the back

 

No need to be offensive!

[motorbikez]

Low mintage does not mean desirable, you need a number of things, desirability, rarity, quality/credibility & demand from collectors, I've had a look at the coins shown & have zero interest in purchasing any of them at any price. There are numerous private mints minting similar sets/series some of which are interesting to collectors some are not. But very few if any of the private mints have anything that appeals to serious collectors. The exception to that is maybe some Chinese medals minted by private mints.

 

This has all the above & is hugely sought after by collectors worldwide.

 

 

[RareAGstrikes]

Funny that mouse does nothing for me, if it was spot price I wouldn't be that interested.

 

i like highly controversial powerful antiestablishment highly sort after designs, that already have a huge following g from all corners of the world. Something that has a multi year guide released with guide prices based on recent actual sales.

[RareAGstrikes]

35 minutes ago, sovereignsteve said:

No need to be offensive!

I'm sorry but so many silver stackers now want to avoid anything with the queens head on, that why I'm trying to get rid of anything with that old head on it, this is the only exception

[motorbikez]

7 minutes ago, RareAGstrikes said:

Funny that mouse does nothing for me, if it was spot price I wouldn't be that interested.

 

i like highly controversial powerful antiestablishment highly sort after designs, that already have a huge following g from all corners of the world. Something that has a multi year guide released with guide prices based on recent actual sales.

LOL to each his own.

[RareAGstrikes]

If mini mintage is serval thousand, then over ten thousand is not really rare. Some are advertised as only a hundred thousand minted, ha

 

micro mintage is hundreds, and what if there is a popular very sort after silver strike that is part of a very popular series that has mintage of less than ten released in The entire world, this is called nano mintage. I know of one such coin, it sold of over 3000

[RareAGstrikes]

This is an excellent new forum for micro and mini mintage collectors

 

http://limitedsilverstrikes.freeforums.net

28 minutes ago, shortstack68 said:

I'm sure in the world of bullion, even 50k is a small mintage

Maybe it's small mintage yes, but that's not very rare.

[RareAGstrikes]

Trouble is government mints can't make antiestablishment silver strikes, they are the establishment that these designs are pointing out.

 

its the really controversial powerful designs that end up fetching the highest values.

[Paul]

I am anti establishment weird black sheep of society type and I think these are awful, and will be a very poor investment if you park your fiat debt tokens into them.  

They should be a few dollars above spot, and are just novelties nothing more.  One would only come into my stack, if it was as close to spot and the cheapest option of the day

Most will probably end up as melt long term

The only person who will benefit from upside long term is Duane who produced them, who has successfully managed to earn a few $ profit from convincing people they should pay more for them through his very informative dontthreadonme site.

 

[RareAGstrikes]

53 minutes ago, Paul said:

I am anti establishment weird black sheep of society type and I think these are awful, and will be a very poor investment if you park your fiat debt tokens into them.  

They should be a few dollars above spot, and are just novelties nothing more.  One would only come into my stack, if it was as close to spot and the cheapest option of the day

Most will probably end up as melt long term

The only person who will benefit from upside long term is Duane who produced them, who has successfully managed to earn a few $ profit from convincing people they should pay more for them through his very informative dontthreadonme site.

 

At first I thought you were talking about the high mintage government strikes, then I see you were talking about the micro mintage stuff. Each to his own, let's agree to disagree. If you look at the latest annual silver shield guide and the actual paid prices for the micro mintage proofs, you will see that a lot of silver stackers around the world also disagree with you..

[Paul]

http://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/i.html?LH_Complete=1&_from=R40&_sacat=0&_nkw=silver+shield+1oz&LH_PrefLoc=1&_sop=15

He is factual evidence what the silver shields are worth in the real world and actually selling for in UK - and prices achieved are not much different to any other standard 1oz silver bullion coin

"1oz silver shield" is the search term on completed items by UK based sellers only

GREEN figures is price achieved and what they sold for.

BLACK figures show UNSOLD

Several different designs, same seller free P&P all listed at £40 - not one sold.  that should tell you the popularity of this micro mintage series is in the UK 

[RareAGstrikes]

I just see mostly in your link copper strikes. Or the counterfeit Rob Grey cheap rubbish. These are not even mini mintage, they are still being produced in large numbers, no way they will have Numasmatic value over time. 

 

We are talking about genuine micro mintags silver reverse proofs.

Or even the micro mintage BU like this one with the queens head on it. Try and find this one for less than £40 somewhere...

 

 

 

Democide. Murder by government.

 

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1-oz-2016-Slave-Queen-Six-3-DEMOCIDE-License-to-Kill-Proof-Silver-Shield-/252713458238?hash=item3ad6e55a3e:g:y7sAAOSwImRYHOfB

[Paul]

if you scan through the full list, there are only 80+ odd items on the link will have defaulted to lowest priced first, the proofs you are after are towards the bottom it shows the silver proofs, and shows how they do not sell very well in this country.  

"1oz silver shield" is the search term on completed items by UK based sellers only so it will bring up copies if that is in their titles

The link you have gave me to view, did not sell for this price.  it was removed from sale by seller.  just because an item is listed on eBay for mega money doesn't mean that it is worth that price.

items when sold shown in advanced a search completed items as green, are actual what an item actually sells for.  So in my eyes, what an item is actually currently worth.  As only very few of them where have sold they have not been much more than a normal bullion coin.

i've gave my opinion, you clearly think different, you like them & want to collect them GREAT  - fill your boots, whatever floats your boat i hope you can prove the naysayers on this thread wrong.  Me, I will always offer you 98% of spot for them - silver is silver 

[Roy]

I find the "James Bond' coin offensive.

And 'License' is spelt wrong, it's licence. 

[RareAGstrikes]

14 hours ago, Paul said:

if you scan through the full list, there are only 80+ odd items on the link will have defaulted to lowest priced first, the proofs you are after are towards the bottom it shows the silver proofs, and shows how they do not sell very well in this country.  

"1oz silver shield" is the search term on completed items by UK based sellers only so it will bring up copies if that is in their titles

The link you have gave me to view, did not sell for this price.  it was removed from sale by seller.  just because an item is listed on eBay for mega money doesn't mean that it is worth that price.

items when sold shown in advanced a search completed items as green, are actual what an item actually sells for.  So in my eyes, what an item is actually currently worth.  As only very few of them where have sold they have not been much more than a normal bullion coin.

i've gave my opinion, you clearly think different, you like them & want to collect them GREAT  - fill your boots, whatever floats your boat i hope you can prove the naysayers on this thread wrong.  Me, I will always offer you 98% of spot for them - silver is silver 

Lots of inexperienced people bring out that old chestnut, silver is silver.

 

more experienced collectors who know the truth about Numasmatic silver would strongly disagree.

 

its the experienced collectors that are interested in rare highly collectable very sort after silver strikes for the long term. 

 

If if you think silver is silver then just stack bulk silver at spot, the other option is to go for the premium silver which is the option I'm interested in for the long term.

[sovereignsteve]