educating future generations

[HawkHybrid]

educating future generations is one of the best investments anyone

can make.

 

 

I trust that peter schiff is no liar, I just question how widespread this

standard of education is? are future generations spending less time

in school and learning less with the time that they do spend in school?

do people who fail in business, teach?

 

HH

[Roy]

This is a great topic HH.

I was thinking of starting one too!

Unfortunately, I can't watch anything broadcast by the Americans: Schiff, Maloney etc.

Do any Englishmen/women have a point of view? Maybe they don't use youtube.

Are we still teachers, or educators?

[KDave]

I am trying to work out why kids (young adults?) are being kept in school or further education until 18. I did it, but it was a choice not forced. Many of the people that left school before me have been very successful in business and in various careers, but I know there are statistics that demonstrate a higher education leads to a greater chance of success in these areas. Still the question is why force people to stay in school or get an apprenticeship?

Education is driven by ideological politicians who are often in office for short periods so why should they have a vested interest in the end product? I have heard it said that this move is an attempt to hide unemployment by keeping kids who have no hopes of getting a job on the books longer, then hoping the majority will go to university because they have the A-levels and are further kept of the books for a few more years until they leave uni and get a part time job in Starbucks. 

Any alternative theories? 

[vand]

It's not just future generations. People these days literally have zero capacity for logical deduction and thinking for themselves.  My social media feeds are choc full of rubbish propaganda from people who just re-share stupid scaremongering articles on the EU referendum one way or the other. In today's always-connected world, the need to think for ourselves and make our own standalone decisions is removed.  If you choose to think for yourself and reach opinions that are different from the collective then you are labeled with derogatory labels like "racist" or "doommonger".  Its ridiculous that if you aren't a sheeple then society will come to scorn you. 

Schools and universities are exceptions at teaching people how to perform calculus, learn a syllabus and pass exams, but are terrible at teaching people to become fully rounded humans with the capacity for critique.

[sovereignsteve]

3 hours ago, vand said:

 My social media feeds are choc full of rubbish propaganda from people who just re-share stupid scaremongering articles on the EU referendum one way or the other.

There's a simple answer to this problem; ditch them!

Social media, the worst invention ever!

[Roy]

4 hours ago, vand said:

Schools and universities are exceptions at teaching people how to perform calculus, learn a syllabus and pass exams, but are terrible at teaching people to become fully rounded humans with the capacity for critique.

This statement makes me so sad. The worse thing is, I fear you are correct 

[KDave]

I agree. The school system is there to develop people to give them the tools needed to function on an economic basis. Maths, reading, basic skills that employers can use, then later developing their skills and talents into specialised subjects through A-levels, Apprenticeships or University, again resources that employers can use and everyone benefits. It is beneficial on an economic level to all parties but provides nothing more.

It is also obvious to me that ignorance is an acceptable state for most in the UK, often people admit to 'not having all the facts' or 'not been given that information' on issues that they can easily research themselves. Its as if having to think for yourself is a massive undertaking or some inconvenient task thrust upon people. Perhaps the problem is cultural rather than educational? 

[Roy]

I wouldn't say cultural. The UK is multi-cultural and some, especially the Asian cultures, are first class students and businessmen. Their appreciation for education has not withered.

Perhaps more of a society problem? So many see so many others doing nothing, living off the system, engrossed in social media, blaming everyone else for their woes.

Television, the drug of a nation. Let's aspire to working behind a bar, down the caff or on the market. Used car Sir?

Oh me, oh my. I despair. My great-niece only goes to play school 3 times a week 'cos that's all the social pay for, innit'. 

I wish I had Paul's command of rhetoric and prose.

 

 

 

[vand]

It's not surprising that the state of our economy reflects the state of our education system: boring, uninspiring and devoid of any real innovation - where are the UK's Facebook, Apple & Google & Amazons? Say what you will about the state of America, but at least every new business cycle they have new companies that come to the fore and become the  standard bearers. The FTSE is still dominated by the same tired few companies that have been around forever.. no wonder it's basically gone nowhere for the last 20 years.

[Paul]

If you have time - have a listen through 

Yuri Bezmenov (alias Tomas Schuman), a Soviet KGB defector, explains in detail his scheme for the KGB process of subversion and takeover of target societies 

Tag this in with reading 'Rules for Radicals' by Saul Alinsky which both major UK political parties heartily endorse

You will see how society is not where it is today by accident, but has been socially engineered over decades to get us here