Help identifying a coin/round

[adamg1983]

Hi Everyone

 

Just joined your forum as i'm having trouble identifying something I bought from an auction today. I've attached a pic, if anyone can help i'd be really grateful. I can only find this ebay item 360936341505 - is it the same item just a bit beaten up? i'm as sure as i can be that it is silver.

 

Thanks all

 

Adam

 

 

[Danny-boy]

Well it says it's silver on it, that's a good start - I doubt rounds like that would be fake, or there would be more info on the web.

What tests have you performed? Without known weight, diameter and thickness values I guess your only arsenal is SG test and magnetism.

[adamg1983]

Hi, Thanks for the reply.  Yeah only tested using a rare earth magnet.  I'm pretty sure its silver, bought it in an auction with a couple of  other silver coins,  Its 1oz.  is it normal to find a round and then not be able to find anything about them online?  

[Danny-boy]

Hi, Thanks for the reply. Yeah only tested using a rare earth magnet. I'm pretty sure its silver, bought it in an auction with a couple of other silver coins, Its 1oz. is it normal to find a round and then not be able to find anything about them online?

I had one, but somebody on here found details of it even though I searched for ages.

The truth will come out, and this thread is where it will happen [emoji1]

There are a whole bunch of rounds / coins minted, probably hundreds of thousands of different ones, info on specifics can take some finding.

[adamg1983]

I've been searching Google for 4 hours! I have a head ache.  That ebay item is the same but doesnt look silver to me. 

[ChrisSilver]

Can't help you identifying it, other than it's definitely a round and not a coin as coins are legal tender and have denominations on.

Some people collect rounds specifically, there is a he variety of different obscure rounds. In the US a lot of casinos make/made them and people collect them. Some rounds are produced in such small quantities and very little info is available about them.

Hopefully someone else comes forward and can be more useful than I was. And welcome to the forum

[adamg1983]

Thanks for the Welcome  

I will keep looking.  It has the words "Ozean riesen" which is German, but then on the other side says Great Britain.  

 

I guess if it cant be identified at all then its rare! haha 

[Danny-boy]

I guess if it cant be identified at all then its rare! haha

If only "rare" and "valuable" were a guarantee.

Unfortunately when it comes to silver coins, it doesn't work like that.

[HighlandTiger]

Well the word "ozeanriesen" is German, so that might give you a clue to it's original maker. Is there are makers mark I can see just below the .999?

[Cointreau]

This one looks beaten up. Got a hole in it and asking price is 55 euros.

http://www.ebay.it/itm/Titanic-Great-Britain-Ozean-Riesen-Ocean-Liners-15-4-1912-O-15-h-SOS-/360936341505?pt=Medaglie_e_Lingotti&hash=item54097b8001

[adamg1983]

Yep, i've seen that one on ebay, doesnt give any clues to the makers. 

[Cointreau]

Yep, i've seen that one on ebay, doesnt give any clues to the makers. 

It's got me beat as well!

[adamg1983]

i'm new to collecting, which are the more collectable, coins or rounds? I like the idea of finding rounds from random companies e.g casinos as mentioned above. 

[Cointreau]

Definitely recogniseable mainstream coins such Pandas and Britannias and Perth Mint Lunar.

Rounds can be too obscure such as your Titanic coin. You'll get the hang.

[Hookythestacker]

Anyone had any luck tracing this round yet? any chance of a close up of the makers mark Adam? Most of the 100 year commemorative coins/rounds don't show the actual sinking, maybe its part of a small run of ship themed rounds with the somewhat generic Ocean Liners side? It's not keeping me awake at night yet, age does that all on its own, but I am curious to know.

[adamg1983]

Hi Mr/Mrs hooky - I'll try and get a close up now, i've still had no luck finding it. 

[adamg1983]

Here is another pic, its as good as I can do tonight as its a bit dark.

 

I think the initials are S R H or S R N ?  

 

I also forgot to say that I bought it with some other coins dated 1998 including a 1998 Liberian Titanic.  So maybe its from around that year.

 

Adam

[Hookythestacker]

That's great Adam thanks, and I'm a Mr Hook, Mrs Hook has absolutely no interest in silver unless she is exchanging it for shoes and/or clothes, age, unfortunately, has not withered her passion for shopping. I was guessing your round was part of the 2012 glut of commemorative rounds/coins issued, but it could well be any date. Iv'e only seen one other design depicting the actual sinking, similar to yours but with obvious differences, most of the others show the Titanic still afloat. Thanks for the extra info and i'll let you know if I find anything.  

 

edit. As well as being in significantly worse condition than yours the ebay coin has a 999 on the ships wheel between the two O's which appears lacking on yours?

[adamg1983]

You are correct - I didnt notice that. so its not the same.  Mine may be a copy of this one? although the makers mark seems to be the same? 

[Luker2]

P3140078.JPGHi Everyone

 

Just joined your forum as i'm having trouble identifying something I bought from an auction today. I've attached a pic, if anyone can help i'd be really grateful. I can only find this ebay item 360936341505 - is it the same item just a bit beaten up? i'm as sure as i can be that it is silver.

 

Thanks all

 

Adam

You might want to consider posting it to this forum as well:

http://tomstreasures.com/find.html

[Hookythestacker]

Found a similar looking mark here

 

 

It's on a Willy Brandt medal/token, oddly enough the members of the forum its on are having difficulty tracing it's origins.

 

http://www.925-1000.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=22&t=37726

 

[DrDime]

Well, I do know that the other mark on that medal 'CHI' is used by the valcambi refinery in Switzerland. Which may explain the German on both pieces

[Hookythestacker]

Sir Rowland Hill Ltd?

 

http://www.srh-ltd.de/2/

 

Haven't seen one quite like yours but I'd bet my scrap jar of pre decimal silver its them. (just the holed ones   )

 

http://www.srh-ltd.de/angebote/order/angebote/anzeigen/62/

[DrDime]

Yeah just found out about him . Looks likely..... Makes sense of the Victoria head

[JayB]

Well done! It's got to be...it's got his name written all over it!